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Post by Cruizin on Sept 28, 2016 13:12:37 GMT -7
My street helmet is the Bell RS-1 high vis with the Transitions shield. The faceshield automatically adjusts the tint according to uv dark or bright. I got spoiled by the auto tint so Bell will have my business for quite a while. I have found that the high vis has reduced the amount of people pulling out in front of me.  |
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Post by mjh937 on Sept 28, 2016 13:41:08 GMT -7
I have the same setup, just a different color scheme.  |
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Post by guywithfz10 on Sept 28, 2016 14:01:28 GMT -7
I have a Shoei RF-1200. I got the Dominance version which is now a discontinued graphic so I got it at 40% off which was an awesome deal. I'm really thinking about getting the transition visor. Never have to carry 2 visors ever again but it is $200 so makes me a bit hesitant. I want to put that money towards an exhaust instead  |
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Post by mjh937 on Sept 28, 2016 14:09:40 GMT -7
The transitions visor for the RS-1 is only $110. I just bought my second one as the first one was cracked by a flying rock. I ordered a new one the day the old one was broken as I could not bear to be without it.
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Post by deftone on Sept 28, 2016 18:15:50 GMT -7
After using Arai's top signature models for 20 + years (and getting sick of the poor quality and high price) I tried the HJC RPHA 10 and have been using it for a few years now. Really happy with this helmet. Better than any Arai I have ever owned.  Stoked to try out the new RPHA-11 |
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Post by coyote on Sept 28, 2016 19:02:54 GMT -7
Also a Bell RS-1 with transition shield,in silver.
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Post by paulo2t on Sept 28, 2016 19:08:01 GMT -7
Why it took you 20 years to realize how bad and expensive the Arai is? To you.
You don't make your new helmet look good when you need to trash something you
had for so long. A good product is good on its on, not on how bad the competition is.
Ohh I have 3 Arai's, 2 Skorpion's, 3 AGV's, 1 Shark and 1 LS2
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Post by deftone on Sept 29, 2016 3:39:33 GMT -7
Why it took you 20 years to realize how bad and expensive the Arai is? To you. You don't make your new helmet look good when you need to trash something you had for so long. A good product is good on its on, not on how bad the competition is. Ohh I have 3 Arai's, 2 Skorpion's, 3 AGV's, 1 Shark and 1 LS2 There wasn't anything better at the time. And Arai's price has risen dramatically over the years. It's only in the last maybe 5 years that other Helmet brands stepped up and offered a better product for much less money. My last Arai was an $800 helmet (Hopkins Corsair RX7) and it had less features than helmets that cost half that rpice. Plus parts kept breaking on several of my previous Arai's.  I've tried Bell and HJC and they are easily better than the Arai. |
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Post by deftone on Sept 29, 2016 18:07:35 GMT -7
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Post by decreasingdave on Sept 30, 2016 4:28:40 GMT -7
Ok, but they are all written by the same guy. Somewhat lacks credibility, no?
First off, Ford writes that buyers who want to avoid confusion over helmet standards and find a helmet that's been tested to work with an appropriate weight head can, "simply choose a non-Snell-rated helmet." This is incorrect. SNELL is a voluntary test and all the SNELL helmets must first be certified by the Department Of Transportation (DOT). So all SNELL helmets ARE DOT certified.
Secondly, Ford's beef was with the SNELL 2005 review and rating as it didn't take into account a lighter weight head and it's effects on the crumple zones and subsequent deceleration forces. It wasn't directly with Arai or Shoei. In fact, your HJC helmet is SNELL certified as well and the only reason it does not have a SNELL 2005 rating is because of it's age relative to the later standards.
Your opinion about the current crop of Arai helmets is just that, your opinion, and I honestly respect it. I am an Arai guy. It saved my life in a major way back in 2009. FTR, I was wearing an RX7RR4 and it probably had a SNELL 2005 rating as that was the vintage of the helmet. I guess in my case my head, apparently being full of rocks, was heavy enough for the helmet to do it's job.
Dave
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Post by she3pdog on Sept 30, 2016 6:20:18 GMT -7
A have a Shoei GT-Air. I really like having the internal sun visor, but I may look into those transition visors for my next helmet as that seems even easier and maybe safer.
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Post by deftone on Sept 30, 2016 14:51:36 GMT -7
Ok, but they are all written by the same guy. Somewhat lacks credibility, no?
Dave
Well, that's not really the point. It's really all about the research Mr. Ford compiled and wrote about. It's your choice as to whether or not you want to believe him or not. |
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Post by mjh937 on Sept 30, 2016 15:08:04 GMT -7
Ok, but they are all written by the same guy. Somewhat lacks credibility, no?
Dave
Well, that's not really the point. It's really all about the research Mr. Ford compiled and wrote about. It's your choice as to whether or not you want to believe him or not. I think the main point is that the articles are eleven years old. I believe there have been two additional Snell standards since then. |
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Post by Cruizin on Sept 30, 2016 15:32:46 GMT -7
Harley guys mostly dont even wear helmets. And those who do wear those useless skull helmets that dont protect anything. They say it's about freedom. What about the poor guys who have to scrape their brains up from the highway? What about their freedom?
I jest..
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Post by deftone on Sept 30, 2016 15:43:05 GMT -7
I think the main point is that the articles are eleven years old. I believe there have been two additional Snell standards since then. Valid point. But a lot changed since that article. Maybe that's the reason we have two additional Snell Standards. I also see a lot more helmet choices these days. Competition benefits the consumer. The main point I took from the article was how much you spend doesn't necessarily mean better protection. |
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Post by deftone on Sept 30, 2016 16:01:46 GMT -7
I'd like to add, I never had a problem with Arai quality as far as safety goes. I've had a number of crashes myself and I was wearing an Arai everytime. I can't remember my name sometimes, but other than that I feel fine.
My problem with Arai is the price is too high and I don't see any real benefit. I still have a stack of broken visors and various other pieces off my Arai's that just broke from normal use. I expect more if I'm paying more.
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Post by decreasingdave on Oct 1, 2016 1:31:53 GMT -7
I'd like to add, I never had a problem with Arai quality as far as safety goes. I've had a number of crashes myself and I was wearing an Arai everytime. I can't remember my name sometimes, but other than that I feel fine. My problem with Arai is the price is too high and I don't see any real benefit. I still have a stack of broken visors and various other pieces off my Arai's that just broke from normal use. I expect more if I'm paying more. I do agree with you deftone. I crashed on the street with my Arai and it saved my life. Ironically, although I was wearing Arais on the street, I would wear HJCs on the track when I was roadracing (not trackdays). That was because I KNEW that at some time I was going to crash and scratch and/or impact the helmet and I just could not afford to keep replacing Arai helmets. My solace to that fact was two things. First, I knew that I had EMTs on site when I was racing. This doesn't count for much really, but it did help a little. Second, and most important to me, is that I felt that on a racetrack any crash I had would not be a SURPRISE!!! In fact, EVERY time I hit the ground on the track I knew it was coming and had time to prepare for it. That includes a highside or two. By comparison, I believe that you can be riding along minding your own business on the street and end up in a near fatal. In those instances, you don't get to prepare, you land how you land, and for me in 2009, I landed on my head, multiple times.
That said, I just picked up my new Arai Defiant Pro-Cruise today. It's a $789 helmet. Honestly, I probably would not have bought it if I didn't get it for distributer's cost, saving me just over $300. I couldn't find an Arai that matched my bike. I could find cheaper helmets that matched, LS2 for example, but I chose to match my gear with an Arai instead. This FZ-10 makes me ride like a complete a-hole, I wanted nothing but the best on my head (ymmv).
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Post by deftone on Oct 1, 2016 9:34:57 GMT -7
I never owned an HJC before, but from what I read the RPHA-10 was a real departure for the company who supposedly is the largest helmet mfg. in the world. I liked the RPHA-10 so much I bought the RPHA-X for dirt. Equally impressed. The new RPHA-11 is supposed to be even better.
Another feature I like about the HJC is how easy it is to remove & replace the liner for washing. It's supposedly an anti-bacterial material as well.
I've never owned a Bell, but my buddy has a couple of them and he loves them. I tried them on at WSBK and I was impressed.
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Post by kup0236 on Nov 3, 2016 8:29:39 GMT -7
I've got an Aria I've had for about 5 years. Just bought a Bilt from Cycle Gear. It's not a bad helmet for the price and I love the Bluetooth. I'll probably buy another. For $150 I could buy a new one every year and not complain. Loved my Aria but I just can't justify the price. Your paying for the comfort and quality. They are all made to a certain safety standard IMO.
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Post by adamb on Nov 3, 2016 18:03:38 GMT -7
I had a shoei RF-1000 for, um, way longer than I should've. I picked up a Schuberth C3Pro for the street last month. I really like the modular helmet for street riding, being able to flip the face up to talk to other riders, or at the gas station is very convenient. I also added the interphone 5MC, which is so much nicer than doing the earbud thing. No one believes me that I'm talking to them from the bike due to lack of wind noise. I also just bought a Bell RS-1 on closeout for $156.00 that I'm going to us for track days.  image
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