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Post by Cruizin on Aug 11, 2017 17:21:45 GMT -7
Seems expensive you can order a programmer and do it yourself for about the same price It won't be the max performance tune that Nels has developed from tuning 50+ other fz-10's. He is at the racetrack right now, tuning bikes. Race teams could also tune their own bikes, but so many racers turn to Nels for his tunes cause they want the best. I mean, you can buy a paint gun and paint your own car, or buy some tools and build your own bike. We don't for a reason.
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Post by landmark518 on Aug 14, 2017 11:36:47 GMT -7
I PM'd Nels this morning but also thought I'd post my questions here in case prior customers have the answers I'm going out of town (without the bike ) for a week at the end of this month so its a great time to have the flash done! My FZ10 is currently set up with; Yoshimura Alpha 3/4 Ti system for the R1AIS blockoff plates BMC Air Filter EXUP Delete -Will the EXUP, AIS, and O2 sensor disable with your flash allow me to remove the aftermarket plugs (servo buddy, etc) that keeps the CEL off? -Do you recommend modding the airbox with the flash? I've been thinking of removing the snorkel in the box and opening up the intake area. -The FZ10 has strong engine braking. Will the flash soften this? -What changes are made to the Std, A, and B throttle modes? I like A mode. I feel that Std is too lazy and B mode too twitchy/sensitive. -Would I notice any improvements with fine tuning to my bike if I added a PCV Autotune after the ECU flash? I am in Virginia so I can't come by for a custom tune. Thanks everyone! This is the airbox mod I'm thinking of doing. Sorry for the direct link...imgbb is not working for me right now I also contacted Nels on 8/11/17, however I emailed him at 2wheeldynoworks@gmail.com. He responded to my questions same day and my ECU has already been shipped out for the flash. I would recommend just sending him an email or calling.. As others can attest, he is extremely helpful.
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Post by 2wheeldynoworks on Aug 23, 2017 12:11:54 GMT -7
I PM'd Nels this morning but also thought I'd post my questions here in case prior customers have the answers I also contacted Nels on 8/11/17, however I emailed him at 2wheeldynoworks@gmail.com. He responded to my questions same day and my ECU has already been shipped out for the flash. I would recommend just sending him an email or calling.. As others can attest, he is extremely helpful. His post is from April 11 not August 11
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Post by landmark518 on Aug 23, 2017 13:07:48 GMT -7
I also contacted Nels on 8/11/17, however I emailed him at 2wheeldynoworks@gmail.com. He responded to my questions same day and my ECU has already been shipped out for the flash. I would recommend just sending him an email or calling.. As others can attest, he is extremely helpful. His post is from April 11 not August 11 Oops! that's embarrassing lol..By the way I'm LOVING THE ECU FLASH!!! Exactly what I needed.
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Post by 2wheeldynoworks on Aug 23, 2017 15:20:08 GMT -7
His post is from April 11 not August 11 Oops! that's embarrassing lol..By the way I'm LOVING THE ECU FLASH!!! Exactly what I needed. It took me a minute to catch it haha no worries. Glad you're loving the flash
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Post by rs on Nov 18, 2017 21:25:02 GMT -7
Anything coming up for B Friday specials? Think maybe did one last year just after I picked up my 10 and was learning (still am).
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Post by bb on Nov 19, 2017 14:03:33 GMT -7
Seems expensive you can order a programmer and do it yourself for about the same price It won't be the max performance tune that Nels has developed from tuning 50+ other fz-10's. He is at the racetrack right now, tuning bikes. Race teams could also tune their own bikes, but so many racers turn to Nels for his tunes cause they want the best. I mean, you can buy a paint gun and paint your own car, or buy some tools and build your own bike. We don't for a reason. Can't Nels send the map and hardware so we can flash the bike? I think it would save the down time a d cost of shipping. Plus after Nel has done 100 bikes help would surely have an upgrade for those of us who had our ECU flash a year ago. ?? What's the thought on this??
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Post by wonger on Nov 20, 2017 6:34:53 GMT -7
It won't be the max performance tune that Nels has developed from tuning 50+ other fz-10's. He is at the racetrack right now, tuning bikes. Race teams could also tune their own bikes, but so many racers turn to Nels for his tunes cause they want the best. I mean, you can buy a paint gun and paint your own car, or buy some tools and build your own bike. We don't for a reason. Can't Nels send the map and hardware so we can flash the bike? I think it would save the down time a d cost of shipping. Plus after Nel has done 100 bikes help would surely have an upgrade for those of us who had our ECU flash a year ago. ?? What's the thought on this?? It is certainly possible for them to sell their own map included with the FTecu hardware, as that is how most every other company does it. Graves with their EVR for example. It would certainly be preferable to be able to do this, but a level of trust needs to exist between Nels and this community to not share his tune. This worked very well with Ivan on the FZ1 and the Kawasaki's he's done. I'm hoping it would work for Nels, but I don't know if I trust this community as much as the FZ1 community. I've seen a few more people fairly fresh to the motorcycling community that could give a tuner pause to let their investment out into the wild. I wish he would, and disappointed he doesn't.
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Post by mtneer on Dec 26, 2017 16:17:16 GMT -7
I took advantage of the cyber Monday sale and also,got the Graves EVR 3/4 system from 2WDW, I've only done one short ride since the install but the bike is definitely feels stronger than stock and fueling is great even in B mode where the fuel cut was harsh, when the bike was stock, STD had the best throttle response but felt soft, A was stronger and the fuel cut wasn't as bad as B mode, I usually rode it A mode with TC 1 or 2. I feel that post flash any power mode can used and have good throttle response. I will know more whenever I can get a good ride in and evaluate the mods better, but I'm happy with the results, low end power is much improved also, thanks for all the development you've done on this bike.
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Post by superspirit on Jan 26, 2018 12:27:30 GMT -7
I took advantage of the black friday sale on the flash, when I called to send it in I talked with Kirk and ended up ordering the Hindle 3/4 system and AIS block off plates. I have it all installed and went for a ride today. All I can say is this thing went from wicked to extremely wicked. I am stoked at how well the bike runs now. The guys at 2wdw know what they are doing. If anyone is on the fence all I can say is go ahead and jump you will not be disappointed!
A BIG thanks to Kirk and Nels for awesome service!
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Post by alitreboy on Feb 13, 2018 0:53:58 GMT -7
Hello, I just bought a brand new MT10SP! and I don't know which exhaust is very loud (loud pipes = safe lives!) and I'm not sure about a block off plate? what its does? Akrapovic full system exhaust cost $2700aud and I will need to buy flash ecu $350. Plus install, cost . It will cost more than 3 grand for a pipe?! Anyone have Yoshimura system?
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Post by achrista on Feb 13, 2018 6:25:15 GMT -7
Congrats on the SP. This question has been answered a few times in other threads, but to summarize:
- You don't need to spend $3k on an akra system if you don't want to spend $3k. The most popular exhaust mod is a 3/4 system as it gives you the most bang-for-your-buck, and a number of members replace the stainless steel headers with R1 titanium headers for weight savings. The OEM header is not all that restrictive. An R1 header can be had for $150-200, but prices seem to be higher overseas.
- The yoshi system is loud. Some people don't like the conical muffler but it doesn't bother me.
- If all you want is volume, you can just delete the cat and leave the stock muffler. It has little baffling and basically serves as a straight-pipe. May adversely affect performance.
- Block off plates allow you to remove the air injection system pump, which exists for emissions purposes. If you delete your cat without installing them you'll get loud popping on deceleration. By removing the AIS and installing block-off plates, you don't get pops.
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Post by djstraub on Mar 5, 2018 8:19:43 GMT -7
If I do the Ecu flash with an exhaust and air filter is it nessesary to install a PC 5 and have it dyno tuned ?
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Post by clayton on Mar 5, 2018 8:58:09 GMT -7
Does the $50 discount still apply for being a member of this forum?
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Post by landmark518 on Mar 5, 2018 10:43:07 GMT -7
Does the $50 discount still apply for being a member of this forum? Yes, I believe the discount always applies to Forum Members. Hopefully someone can confirm. You can also email 2wheeldynoworks at 2wheeldynoworks@gmail.com to ask. They are usually pretty quick to respond. Excellent customer service!
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Post by landmark518 on Mar 5, 2018 10:46:11 GMT -7
If I do the Ecu flash with an exhaust and air filter is it nessesary to install a PC 5 and have it dyno tuned ? While I can’t say for certain, I don’t believe a PC and dyno is required. The flash usually takes any modifications into account. Maybe someone more knowledgeable about the subject can confirm one way or another.
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Post by ossapioneer on Mar 23, 2018 20:47:23 GMT -7
If I do the Ecu flash with an exhaust and air filter is it nessesary to install a PC 5 and have it dyno tuned ? While I can’t say for certain, I don’t believe a PC and dyno is required. The flash usually takes any modifications into account. Maybe someone more knowledgeable about the subject can confirm one way or another. djstraub, just email 2wdw directly with your questions, which are good ones. Here is their email address and phone number, obtained from here on the FZ10.org forum: 2wheeldynoworks@gmail.com; phone at 425-269-5332. I think they're near Tacoma, WA. Since 2wdw's flashes are developed on the dyno in the first place, you do not need to do any further dyno development on your own once you receive your flashed ECU. The dyno work is one of the processes employed by them in the course of creating an effective flash. Secondly, 2wdw has specific flashes ready for different exhaust set ups. Ask them if your system is one of those exhausts. In any case, Nels from 2wdw has stated here on the FZ10.org forum that the effect of different exhaust set ups is actually quite minimal with regard to the effectiveness of any given flash. I am not sure about the influence of an aftermarket airfilter relative to a flash. 2wdw would have to say. PC5 not needed. Power Commanders can assist with basic fueling issues, but not more. The flash, however, is developed to address not only basic fueling issues, but also complex fueling issues (such as throttle cut), and then stuff which the software controlling the Power Commander isn't even remotely designed to influence, such as ignition timing, & etc. See 2wdw's website for the list of engine operational parameters that the flash will correct, or ask 2wdw directly. The range of parameters that the flash software will correct is big. The flash does everything that is done by the PC, but then adds a whole list of additional, more complex improvements, many being perhaps more important than basic fueling. There is another device on the market, not unlike a PC5, but which is not the same thing as a PC5. It can be seen on the Graves website, and is called the FTecu Yamaha Active Tune AFR Self Tuning ECU Kit. I think the Active Tune is meant to enable the ECU to perform a degree of automatic/adaptive fuel tuning while the bike is on the road. I do not know if the Active Tune is useful or needed in conjunction with an already flashed ECU. I will ask 2wdw about that. I will also ask them about whether aftermarket airfilters are any issue with an ECU flash. OSSA Pioneer
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Post by nico on Apr 5, 2018 19:13:41 GMT -7
I'm very interested in the ECU flash but has anyone had it done on their 2018 model? The D modes on 2018 are 1,2,3 (1 being the most aggressive) and not Standard,A,B.
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Post by clayton on Apr 5, 2018 19:37:52 GMT -7
I'm very interested in the ECU flash but has anyone had it done on their 2018 model? The D modes on 2018 are 1,2,3 (1 being the most aggressive) and not Standard,A,B. There has been 1 or 2 here that had there 2018’s flashed I think. Have not read of there ride reports on them. I have an 18 that I’m gunna have flashed in a couple weeks by 2wdw. Just recieved my exhaust yesterday. Gotta wait for another paycheck before sending off my ecu.
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Post by achrista on Apr 6, 2018 7:38:31 GMT -7
the flash is compatible with 2018 models. The OEM maps are updated as well.
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