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Post by Cruizin on Dec 6, 2016 17:38:02 GMT -7
Good questions! As a heads up, Nels is usually pretty busy tuning bikes so isn't in here a lot. To get someone's attention, add an @ symbol before their name and it will send them a notification. 2wheeldynoworks will see this and hopefully have time to login and answer. They also answer emails pretty quickly too. I took advantage of the Black Friday deal and already paid for the service. I'll be sending my ECU on the 16th. A couple questions come to mind. 1. I installed the Yamaha quick shifter. Will the flash accommodate this software input for operating the quick shifter? 2. I've been reading that the ECU install and o2 sensor disconnect needs to be done in a particular sequence to avoid fault codes. Can someone describe the sequence for the group? 3. If I use dealer service at some point in the future, is there danger of them re-flashing the ECU back to stock? 4. I've heard the flash may void the warranty. Has anyone experienced this (or experienced no effect on warranty?) Thanks. Jeff
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Post by slv on Dec 6, 2016 18:28:11 GMT -7
That's an awesome feature. Thanks.
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Post by 2wheeldynoworks on Dec 8, 2016 10:31:16 GMT -7
1. Yamaha quickshifter works fine. 2. Do not disconnect O2 sensors until AFTER ECU has been flashed to avoid codes... Plug ECU back in. Disconnect O2 sensors. 3. Dealer cannot read, write, or re-flash the ECU 4. Flash can void warranty on ECU, but not the warranty for the entire machine. The dealer would have to prove that the flash was the direct cause of the failure. In the event warranty work is needed, we have the original tune file image saved out of your ECU, and can flash it back to stock at any time you need, before taking the bike in for any warranty work. The only cost for this service is just to cover the return shipping charge.
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Post by slv on Dec 8, 2016 14:24:18 GMT -7
1. Yamaha quickshifter works fine. 2. Do not disconnect O2 sensors until AFTER ECU has been flashed to avoid codes... Plug ECU back in. Disconnect O2 sensors. 3. Dealer cannot read, write, or re-flash the ECU 4. Flash can void warranty on ECU, but not the warranty for the entire machine. The dealer would have to prove that the flash was the direct cause of the failure. In the event warranty work is needed, we have the original tune file image saved out of your ECU, and can flash it back to stock at any time you need, before taking the bike in for any warranty work. The only cost for this service is just to cover the return shipping charge. Thanks guys. You guys are awesome.
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Post by slv on Dec 14, 2016 7:58:02 GMT -7
Another silly question.
Should I disconnect the battery's ground cable before removing and re-installing the ECU?
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Post by 2wheeldynoworks on Jan 9, 2017 9:31:45 GMT -7
Another silly question. Should I disconnect the battery's ground cable before removing and re-installing the ECU? sorry for the late reply but you don't have to no.
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Post by 0002s on Jan 9, 2017 13:07:10 GMT -7
Overnighted mine to you today.
-S
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Post by 2wheeldynoworks on Jan 9, 2017 17:24:55 GMT -7
Overnighted mine to you today. -S right on. keep an eye on the tracking!
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Post by 0002s on Jan 9, 2017 20:45:51 GMT -7
Overnighted mine to you today. -S right on. keep an eye on the tracking! by 10:00 UPS
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Post by guywithfz10 on Jan 10, 2017 14:14:42 GMT -7
Hi Nels, I just have some questions about the tune because I am a newbie when it comes to something like this.
Is the ECU flash for de-cat modification universal? As in it doesn't matter what exhaust system choice we have gone for? I am getting an Austin Racing exhaust and on the forums it seems like tunes available are for Hindle, Akrapovic and Graves so I'm not sure if the tune is limited to those brands.
Will I need a separate tune if I wanted to have a baffle in vs. baffle out?
I know the O2 sensors are going to be disabled after the tune but can I keep it inserted in the mid-pipe instead of removing it completely?
I apologize for having so many questions. I've never had professional tuning done so I have no idea what to expect. Thank you so much for your time.
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Post by Cruizin on Jan 10, 2017 16:33:30 GMT -7
Hi Nels, I just have some questions about the tune because I am a newbie when it comes to something like this. Is the ECU flash for de-cat modification universal? As in it doesn't matter what exhaust system choice we have gone for? I am getting an Austin Racing exhaust and on the forums it seems like tunes available are for Hindle, Akrapovic and Graves so I'm not sure if the tune is limited to those brands. Will I need a separate tune if I wanted to have a baffle in vs. baffle out? I know the O2 sensors are going to be disabled after the tune but can I keep it inserted in the mid-pipe instead of removing it completely? I apologize for having so many questions. I've never had professional tuning done so I have no idea what to expect. Thank you so much for your time. You might wabt to either call him or send him a pm. Or, at least put an @ before his user name like this 2wheeldynoworks to get his attention so that he sees this. When you add an @ in front of someones username in a post, it sends them a notification. They are usually pretty busy at work so may not see this.
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Post by 2wheeldynoworks on Jan 11, 2017 12:06:52 GMT -7
Hi Nels, I just have some questions about the tune because I am a newbie when it comes to something like this. Is the ECU flash for de-cat modification universal? As in it doesn't matter what exhaust system choice we have gone for? I am getting an Austin Racing exhaust and on the forums it seems like tunes available are for Hindle, Akrapovic and Graves so I'm not sure if the tune is limited to those brands. Will I need a separate tune if I wanted to have a baffle in vs. baffle out? I know the O2 sensors are going to be disabled after the tune but can I keep it inserted in the mid-pipe instead of removing it completely? I apologize for having so many questions. I've never had professional tuning done so I have no idea what to expect. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you for the message. We love to help. We have found that the tune files are very close together. Every system we have tested so far have been within a certain %. The Austin racing has almost no back pressure so it would be similar to the stock muffler which is straight through. We have also found that installing a baffle does very little to the tune. Maybe 1-2%. I'm confident the tunes we have will make an amazing difference on the performance and rideability of the bike. When it comes to the o2 sensors, you can reuse them to plug the holes in the midpipe or get plugs for the pipe. Please let me know if you have any more questions. Have a great day, Nels
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Post by chismatic on Mar 30, 2017 20:08:04 GMT -7
Hey everyone. I'm thinking about reflash and I got a couple questions.
Suppose that I left the bike completely stock, leaving the cat and stock can, and sent in the ECU for a reflash. What would the power gains be?
Also, is there a change in average gas mileage after a reflash?
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Post by Cruizin on Mar 30, 2017 20:23:06 GMT -7
Hey everyone. I'm thinking about reflash and I got a couple questions. Suppose that I left the bike completely stock, leaving the cat and stock can, and sent in the ECU for a reflash. What would the power gains be? Also, is there a change in average gas mileage after a reflash? Even with stock exhaust, you would still pick up at least 8 hp, maybe even more. On a light motorcycle, that kind of power is very noticeable.
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Post by mrhix on Mar 31, 2017 6:30:29 GMT -7
Hey everyone. I'm thinking about reflash and I got a couple questions. Suppose that I left the bike completely stock, leaving the cat and stock can, and sent in the ECU for a reflash. What would the power gains be? Also, is there a change in average gas mileage after a reflash? I am running the stock exhaust and mpg dropped 3 - 4 mpg with flash. Cheers, MrHix
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Post by tom on Apr 9, 2017 18:39:35 GMT -7
Will the ECU flash void the warranty?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 3:57:52 GMT -7
ECU back in the mail yesterday to get reflashed for the new exhaust and smog plates!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 4:52:14 GMT -7
I PM'd Nels this morning but also thought I'd post my questions here in case prior customers have the answers I'm going out of town (without the bike ) for a week at the end of this month so its a great time to have the flash done! My FZ10 is currently set up with; Yoshimura Alpha 3/4 Ti system for the R1AIS blockoff plates BMC Air Filter EXUP Delete -Will the EXUP, AIS, and O2 sensor disable with your flash allow me to remove the aftermarket plugs (servo buddy, etc) that keeps the CEL off? -Do you recommend modding the airbox with the flash? I've been thinking of removing the snorkel in the box and opening up the intake area. -The FZ10 has strong engine braking. Will the flash soften this? -What changes are made to the Std, A, and B throttle modes? I like A mode. I feel that Std is too lazy and B mode too twitchy/sensitive. -Would I notice any improvements with fine tuning to my bike if I added a PCV Autotune after the ECU flash? I am in Virginia so I can't come by for a custom tune. Thanks everyone! This is the airbox mod I'm thinking of doing. Sorry for the direct link...imgbb is not working for me right now
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Post by pancake on Apr 11, 2017 7:38:58 GMT -7
I PM'd Nels this morning but also thought I'd post my questions here in case prior customers have the answers ... 1) -Will the EXUP, AIS, and O2 sensor disable with your flash allow me to remove the aftermarket plugs (servo buddy, etc) that keeps the CEL off? 2) -Do you recommend modding the airbox with the flash? I've been thinking of removing the snorkel in the box and opening up the intake area. 3) -The FZ10 has strong engine braking. Will the flash soften this? 4) -What changes are made to the Std, A, and B throttle modes? I like A mode. I feel that Std is too lazy and B mode too twitchy/sensitive. 5) -Would I notice any improvements with fine tuning to my bike if I added a PCV Autotune after the ECU flash? I am in Virginia so I can't come by for a custom tune. My customer response 1) Yes, Nels flash disables this so you can remove the servo-buddy if you want. 2) Nels can answer for sure, but I think his flash-tune did not mod the airbox (unless he made a seperate one for this) so doing so will likely change how his tune behaves. 3) It does soften this, but the engine braking is still there. 4) I think different people have different results, some have noticed much improvement, orthers not so much. For me, after Nels flash my throttle response actually feels more twitchy/sensitive. Might be altitude and other environmental variables playing into it. 5) Nels can better answer here as well. With my local dyno run after Nels flash, I'm running lean, 14+ range (again I think my high-altitude plays into it) and I've been thinking of getting an auto tune to help it. But not sure how well autotunes will work with an FTECU flash. I've been meaning to contact Nels to go over my scenario to see how I can better tweak my bike post-2WDW flash as well...hoping I'll have a chance to call 2WDW this week.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 8:58:03 GMT -7
Thank you for the response pancake Interesting that you're running lean at high altitude. I would think that at altitude you'd run richer due to thinner air. More info on the changes to the throttle modes and post-flash tuning options are all I need I think to commit to the flash!
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