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Post by theculturalattache on Sept 4, 2019 8:59:17 GMT -7
Sorry to hear man.
Hope you get fixed up soon.
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Post by heathhudnall on Sept 4, 2019 9:15:21 GMT -7
Sorry to hear man. Hope you get fixed up soon. +1 |
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Post by itsjeezus18 on Sept 4, 2019 11:26:43 GMT -7
Taking suggestions on headlight Ideas. I dont want to go OEM.... its like 1000 dollars for the OEM stuff and i want it to look as nasty as it is. I am trying to see if i can squeeze an XSR headlight on there or maybe just go full after market with fork clips?? open to suggestions. Thanks! damn that's terrible to hear brother, hope you're alright and can get all this fixed up soon. I know the guys over at motodemics.com have some nice xsr led lights. they may even want to do some custom work for you. good luck |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2019 12:27:15 GMT -7
Damn! Glad you're okay brother, which is the most important thing  . So what happened? You dragged hard parts, or just lost traction? And if the latter, braking, or accelerating? You were lucky not to high-side after losing the rear first. But unfortunately, your poor bike took a tumble with that damage. Now that you shared your experience, it'd be nice to hear pointers on what happened, and what not do to with our bikes to prevent it . You had no feelers, right? I put small ones for fear of touching hard parts first, with the results you had. Again, glad you're unscathed . And sorry I couldn't help you, but I'm still in the ownership phase of trying to prevent what happened to you. Ha ha. |
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Post by hooli on Sept 4, 2019 18:51:43 GMT -7
That's looking real nice. Can I ask why you've got your tank grip, the knee bit, where it is? I can't see it being any use as it won't be in contact with any part of your body. It's no coincidence that it's the same shape as the plastic bit I'm sure it's meant to go on... Number 3 in my pic  Thanks! Those are Tech Spec X-Line tank pads:  As far as I know, it wasn't designed to go on the black plastic piece. |
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Post by fz10minesrdripper on Sept 4, 2019 23:27:03 GMT -7
this week i..... crashed my 10 at the track      Heres what is toast: -Everything structural in front of the handlebars -tailight and all the little plasticy bits around it and some of the undergirding stuff -seat -the handlebars -peg and shifter link and lever -crank case cover -my pride -my lap time Everything thats fine: -all the electronics and lights -the engine, probably -most of the plastic -frame, forks, and triples -wheels and tires -primary and secondary drives -my expensive helmet -my skin and skeleton What i already ordered: -seat -woodcraft clip ons -peg and shif lever/linkage -new blasterx integrated tail light -crank case cover Taking suggestions on headlight Ideas. I dont want to go OEM.... its like 1000 dollars for the OEM stuff and i want it to look as nasty as it is. I am trying to see if i can squeeze an XSR headlight on there or maybe just go full after market with fork clips?? open to suggestions. Thanks! I think I see the majority of the problem...tires. So what in your opinion happened. Give a breakdown on everything you were doing prior to the crash. What group were you in B- or B+. Lap times and the track you were at. I'm not here to bash you...just pointing out that bikes don't crash...rider error and poor tire choice for the task at hand. How many track days have you done and how much street or track time have you had? Glad you're okay and the bike can be repaired...ego is questionable. 
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Post by fz10minesrdripper on Sept 4, 2019 23:34:44 GMT -7
I can't open the pictures...do you have video of the crash? Looking at the small pictures it appears that you're approaching apex and picking up the throttle to early and too hard. I always like to understand what happened when someone crashes and doesn't explain what happened. Give us some info. Thanks
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Post by mtate on Sept 5, 2019 4:19:55 GMT -7
I can't open the pictures...do you have video of the crash? Looking at the small pictures it appears that you're approaching apex and picking up the throttle to early and too hard. I always like to understand what happened when someone crashes and doesn't explain what happened. Give us some info. Thanks I found the pictures on the photography website and I can't tell if the peg scraped and tossed him or if the front tire tucked first. I'd like to know what happened too so I can try and work on that not happening to me. |
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Post by mattjohnson491 on Sept 5, 2019 5:35:54 GMT -7
Damn! Glad you're okay brother, which is the most important thing . So what happened? You dragged hard parts, or just lost traction? And if the latter, braking, or accelerating? You were lucky not to high-side after losing the rear first. But unfortunately, your poor bike took a tumble with that damage. Now that you shared your experience, it'd be nice to hear pointers on what happened, and what not do to with our bikes to prevent it . You had no feelers, right? I put small ones for fear of touching hard parts first, with the results you had. Again, glad you're unscathed . And sorry I couldn't help you, but I'm still in the ownership phase of trying to prevent what happened to you. Ha ha. thanks ill check that out |
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Post by mattjohnson491 on Sept 5, 2019 5:38:05 GMT -7
I can't open the pictures...do you have video of the crash? Looking at the small pictures it appears that you're approaching apex and picking up the throttle to early and too hard. I always like to understand what happened when someone crashes and doesn't explain what happened. Give us some info. Thanks so obviously it happened in the blink of an eye, my pace was quick. I was running a slightly -2:00 pace at motorsport ranch Houston. I think my foot maybe slipped off the peg but i was also pushing the pace. FOr the record 3 other people wiped out in that corner that day including the buddy i came with on his FZ-09 |
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Post by mattjohnson491 on Sept 5, 2019 5:40:05 GMT -7
I can't open the pictures...do you have video of the crash? Looking at the small pictures it appears that you're approaching apex and picking up the throttle to early and too hard. I always like to understand what happened when someone crashes and doesn't explain what happened. Give us some info. Thanks I found the pictures on the photography website and I can't tell if the peg scraped and tossed him or if the front tire tucked first. I'd like to know what happened too so I can try and work on that not happening to me. i do not have video unfortunately, just this nifty slide show. I think i maybe came on the throttle too early or my left foot slipped off the peg shifting my weight too far to the inside. For the record 3/5 wipeouts of the day were in that corner. |
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Post by mattjohnson491 on Sept 5, 2019 5:52:38 GMT -7
I can't open the pictures...do you have video of the crash? Looking at the small pictures it appears that you're approaching apex and picking up the throttle to early and too hard. I always like to understand what happened when someone crashes and doesn't explain what happened. Give us some info. Thanks I think I see the majority of the problem...tires. So what in your opinion happened. Give a breakdown on everything you were doing prior to the crash. What group were you in B- or B+. Lap times and the track you were at. I'm not here to bash you...just pointing out that bikes don't crash...rider error and poor tire choice for the task at hand. How many track days have you done and how much street or track time have you had? Glad you're okay and the bike can be repaired...ego is questionable. So the lap before this was a PR for me at this track... at 1:56:13, Motorsport ranch houston. I was in an intermediate group. I had already apexed in this corner and as i was picking speed back up i slid out. I had supercorsas with less than 1k miles on them. I have done over 10 trackdays on the 10 (maybe 20 overall), 3rd time at MSRH and have always run supercorsas or battleaxes. I have been riding street since i was 16, im 24 now, easily over 100k miles of street experience. Its possible i was just getting cocky but there was never any panic. I was running a great line and then i wasnt lol. Factors to consider, i just got new boots that i realized a little too late that after they broke in were too big. I am 6'4" and 250 lbs, so my big ass foot could have slipped off the peg. Secondly, 3/5 crashes that day were in that part of that corner, which isnt normally a problem corner, ill attach a pic. Could simply be slippery there.  |
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Post by mattjohnson491 on Sept 5, 2019 5:53:50 GMT -7
i had run 10 laps for tire warmth even though it was 97 degrees outside
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Post by mattjohnson491 on Sept 5, 2019 6:43:07 GMT -7
Sorry to hear man. Hope you get fixed up soon. +1 Thanks fellas |
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Post by heathhudnall on Sept 5, 2019 6:49:12 GMT -7
I've got some stock take-offs, though I may not have anything you need. If I do, I'll pay them forward. |
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Post by mattjohnson491 on Sept 5, 2019 9:09:26 GMT -7
I've got some stock take-offs, though I may not have anything you need. If I do, I'll pay them forward. whatcha got? im missing plastic around tail light and left side under seat as well as pretty much everything in front of the handlebars |
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Post by mattjohnson491 on Sept 5, 2019 9:12:55 GMT -7
I've got some stock take-offs, though I may not have anything you need. If I do, I'll pay them forward. whatcha got? im missing plastic around tail light and left side under seat as well as pretty much everything in front of the handlebars also i already ordered more but peg and shifter assembly as well as crank case cover |
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Post by fz10minesrdripper on Sept 5, 2019 9:46:01 GMT -7
I can't open the pictures...do you have video of the crash? Looking at the small pictures it appears that you're approaching apex and picking up the throttle to early and too hard. I always like to understand what happened when someone crashes and doesn't explain what happened. Give us some info. Thanks I think I see the majority of the problem...tires. So what in your opinion happened. Give a breakdown on everything you were doing prior to the crash. What group were you in B- or B+. Lap times and the track you were at. I'm not here to bash you...just pointing out that bikes don't crash...rider error and poor tire choice for the task at hand. How many track days have you done and how much street or track time have you had? Glad you're okay and the bike can be repaired...ego is questionable. So the lap before this was a PR for me at this track... at 1:56:13, Motorsport ranch houston. I was in an intermediate group. I had already apexed in this corner and as i was picking speed back up i slid out. I had supercorsas with less than 1k miles on them. I have done over 10 trackdays on the 10 (maybe 20 overall), 3rd time at MSRH and have always run supercorsas or battleaxes. I have been riding street since i was 16, im 24 now, easily over 100k miles of street experience. Its possible i was just getting cocky but there was never any panic. I was running a great line and then i wasnt lol. Factors to consider, i just got new boots that i realized a little too late that after they broke in were too big. I am 6'4" and 250 lbs, so my big ass foot could have slipped off the peg. Secondly, 3/5 crashes that day were in that part of that corner, which isnt normally a problem corner, ill attach a pic. Could simply be slippery there.
The front tire in the picture back in your garage doesn't look like a supercorsa trackday tire to me. Looks like a street tire Diablo Rosso 3. They work pretty good...was the rear a true supercorsa track tire or the street oem version the SP V2 that comes on some sportbikes stock. Either way...the rubber might have lost a little bit of it's grip, but this was 99.9 % not the problem. Hitting the pegs wouldn't cause it either...unless you made adjustments to throttle, steering or lean angle. I would remember if my foot slipped off the pegs. If your foot slips off the outside peg it's usually not a problem and doesn't cause a crash unless the rider over reacts and grabs a little throttle and adds some lean angle etc. This might explain how it just spun out instead of high siding you. Live and learn...glad your okay and can think about what happened. It's always good to try and think of what happened...it's good for your return to the track with the confidence that you are going to own the track and kick it's ass.
Try running some brand new Dunlop Gp Pro's...they fricken rip. I run between 16-19 pounds cold on the rear. 19-21 hot off the track. These are slightly lower than than some run. You have to have the speed to get them up to the 20 psi range and keep that rim hot. B+ or intermediate riders should start with 21 psi cold. I've run pirelli plenty of times...also good tires. Just use dedicated track tires for that extra grip and confidence. That said I ran slightly used Dunlop Q3's...(the older version) at my first trackday at Laguna Seca. Here's a few pics. Q3's were pretty sticky, but I wouldn't run them again on the track...I want all the confidence in the world...this requires slicks or full blown dot race tires...that's just my personal thoughts. We will all do what we think is best. Get back out there soon and tear it up.       |
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Post by mattjohnson491 on Sept 5, 2019 10:48:01 GMT -7
So the lap before this was a PR for me at this track... at 1:56:13, Motorsport ranch houston. I was in an intermediate group. I had already apexed in this corner and as i was picking speed back up i slid out. I had supercorsas with less than 1k miles on them. I have done over 10 trackdays on the 10 (maybe 20 overall), 3rd time at MSRH and have always run supercorsas or battleaxes. I have been riding street since i was 16, im 24 now, easily over 100k miles of street experience. Its possible i was just getting cocky but there was never any panic. I was running a great line and then i wasnt lol. Factors to consider, i just got new boots that i realized a little too late that after they broke in were too big. I am 6'4" and 250 lbs, so my big ass foot could have slipped off the peg. Secondly, 3/5 crashes that day were in that part of that corner, which isnt normally a problem corner, ill attach a pic. Could simply be slippery there.
The front tire in the picture back in your garage doesn't look like a supercorsa trackday tire to me. Looks like a street tire Diablo Rosso 3. They work pretty good...was the rear a true supercorsa track tire or the street oem version the SP V2 that comes on some sportbikes stock. Either way...the rubber might have lost a little bit of it's grip, but this was 99.9 % not the problem. Hitting the pegs wouldn't cause it either...unless you made adjustments to throttle, steering or lean angle. I would remember if my foot slipped off the pegs. If your foot slips off the outside peg it's usually not a problem and doesn't cause a crash unless the rider over reacts and grabs a little throttle and adds some lean angle etc. This might explain how it just spun out instead of high siding you. Live and learn...glad your okay and can think about what happened. It's always good to try and think of what happened...it's good for your return to the track with the confidence that you are going to own the track and kick it's ass.
Try running some brand new Dunlop Gp Pro's...they fricken rip. I run between 16-19 pounds cold on the rear. 19-21 hot off the track. These are slightly lower than than some run. You have to have the speed to get them up to the 20 psi range and keep that rim hot. B+ or intermediate riders should start with 21 psi cold. I've run pirelli plenty of times...also good tires. Just use dedicated track tires for that extra grip and confidence. That said I ran slightly used Dunlop Q3's...(the older version) at my first trackday at Laguna Seca. Here's a few pics. Q3's were pretty sticky, but I wouldn't run them again on the track...I want all the confidence in the world...this requires slicks or full blown dot race tires...that's just my personal thoughts. We will all do what we think is best. Get back out there soon and tear it up. youre right.... my mind said diablo 3s but my hands wrote super corsa... lol thats what i had on last time i went. |
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Post by hooli on Sept 5, 2019 11:22:59 GMT -7
Copy/pasta from my posting to the MT-10 FB group earlier this week...
So I brought the 10 to a trackday yesterday (first one I've done in a year, lol). Some observations...
The midrange pull out of the corners is fantastic but once on the straights, it loses out to the top-end power of the supersports.
Ground clearance is wanting. I removed the feelers and still scraped the ends of the pegs. But since this is basically my street bike (and I have an R6 as a dedicated track bike), I'll leave them where they were. No sense is buying rearsets right now.
The power was fine, even with a stock pipe. The ecu was flashed by Nells at 2 Wheel Dyno Works and worked great all day.
I love the Woodcraft clip-ons and top plate adaptor setup. It gives better front-end feel and pulls your upper torso down into more of a crouch. The only thing I don't care for is the very limited lock-to-lock clearance. The clutch cable perch and the inner part of the front brake lever contact the upper windscreen bits. I guess that I can trim away those portions that interfere.
I'm running a longer wheelbase. The chain is lengthened by 2 links and this adds roughly 1/4". It'll still loft the front (just takes a little more effort), and side-to-side transitioning is a hair slower but the benefit is better stability in the longer sweepers. Fair trade-off in my opinion.
Front brake pads are Vesrah RJL-XX's. Great power and feel. I bypassed the ABS pump and am running custom Core Moto brake hoses front and rear.
The Dunlop Q3+'s were awesome all day, no issues or "moments" although I did make the traction control light blink at me (and my buddy following me says I was laying down darkies...whee!). The suspension tuner for the trackday prover (Dave Moss) wasn't available (he was attending races elsewhere) so I just had to make do with tweaked street settings. Cold pressures were 31F/30R, as suggested by the Dunlop vendor.
At the end of the day I had a great time. Nothing loosened up or fell off.
PS: I gotta say that the bike looks rather badass without the rear fender.
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. So what happened? You dragged hard parts, or just lost traction? And if the latter, braking, or accelerating? You were lucky not to high-side after losing the rear first. But unfortunately, your poor bike took a tumble with that damage. Now that you shared your experience, it'd be nice to hear pointers on what happened, and what not do to with our bikes to prevent it 
