The penultimate luggage thread (wanna tour....:) )

I have been waiting to order a 2023 MT10, and I had intended to make it an extreme long-distance touring machine.

Not anymore.  


Aside from one lightweight offering from Hepco and Becker, there aren't any significant hard case/top case offerings from any of the main aftermarket luggage makers, Givi, Shad, none of them make a 2022-2023 MT10 setup.

And I have learned why that is... Yamaha has unbelievably REMOVED the four hard mounting points from the rear of the MT10 subframe! There are no longer points that mounting hardware can affix itself to!  

Here is a drawing of the 2016-2021 MT-10 subframe. The four red arrows point to substantial mounting lugs that are factory-welded into the frame:







And here is the same rear subframe for the new-generation MT10... the mounting points are no longer present:







I am fairly pissed that Yamaha did this - I would have liked the newer bike with all the late-generation electronics. But it is far more important that I be able to legit-carry what I need in hard side cases, and I need a strong, beefy top rack because I intend to mount an auxiliary fuel cell there.

I am turning my attention to a 2021 MT10 that is for sale and only has 1500 miles on it. If I manage to score it, that will be the starting platform for my new LD machine.



 

Well that's interesting. I wonder if it's because they relocated a ton of electronics due to making the air scoops functional and the side panel removal on the 2022's.  The "air scoops" on the first gen hold relays and stuff and the LH side panel covers the ECU. All that stuff got moved now.

I pulled off the factory Yamaha side bags and brackets form my 19 MT and was planning to swap this over to the 23 MT-10 SP. This is disappointing. The front of the bracket should mount fine as the bolt holes are underneath but the rear of the brackets mount from the side bosses on the frame which are now removed.

I wonder if swapping that frame to the earlier year is possible?