dashiznit1
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Post by dashiznit1 on Feb 11, 2020 13:58:45 GMT -7
Does anybody know of a shop in the DFW area that can fabricate a mounting bracket for a scottoiler? Or does anybody have the resources to make one if I sent the measurements?
I've been wanting to delete the passenger footpegs and put a bracket on the left side footpeg mounts to hold the reservoir.
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Post by evitzee on Feb 11, 2020 14:34:07 GMT -7
I've never ridden a bike with an automatic oiling system but with todays really good chain lubes I'm not sure how much sense a Scottoiler system makes nowadays. I use Tirox Chain Wax with Teflon, doesn't fling, lasts a long time, and you'll always have a clean rear wheel, and sprockets. Fantastic product.
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Post by gunnar on Feb 11, 2020 15:06:03 GMT -7
Looks messy. From a quick search, don't most of the kits have mounting brackets, etc. to make them work? I could whip something up if you have measurements, a pic, or even a rough drawing. PM or post here. Kind of with evitzee on this one, just doesn't seem like it's needed with modern lubes.
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Post by wjcbsr on Feb 11, 2020 18:12:14 GMT -7
o-ring chains don't need to be oiled that much.
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Post by mrcdharwood on Feb 13, 2020 0:56:05 GMT -7
Here's a thought? Do they need to be oiled at all? The o-rings, z-rings or x-rings whatever they are, are designed to keep shite getting in. Thus they are designed to stop shite getting out. Chains are lubed when made and sealed so is any further lubrication actually going to do anything?
I will always lightly lube and clean my chain but wonder what I'm actually doing Sadie from along it look nice. In fact, some lubes such as WD40 can actually perish rubber so is it doing more harm?
So back to the OP, Scott oilers... is it worth the money and is it actually doing anything if the oil can't get through the seals?
Just a thought.
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Post by gunnar on Feb 13, 2020 8:35:30 GMT -7
When lubing a chain, I think more about contact of the sprockets to the chain than about the insides of the links. Lube inside the O-rings will be there for a while, it's the degradation of the lube trying to stick to the teeth of the sprockets and the rollers of the chain that needs to be maintained. An oiler isn't a bad idea, it's just that oil won't stay where it needs to as long as grease/wax will.
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Post by clayton on Feb 13, 2020 8:56:59 GMT -7
All u need is this! Best stuff I’ve ever used on a chain! Wheels will stay clean also!
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Post by wjcbsr on Feb 14, 2020 6:01:56 GMT -7
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Post by dashiznit1 on Feb 17, 2020 7:46:20 GMT -7
Looks messy. From a quick search, don't most of the kits have mounting brackets, etc. to make them work? I could whip something up if you have measurements, a pic, or even a rough drawing. PM or post here. Kind of with evitzee on this one, just doesn't seem like it's needed with modern lubes. I ended up getting one cheap from a friend because he upgraded to a bike with shaft drive. I put it on when the bike was new for the first 1100 miles and it seemed to work really well actually. The slack was pretty close to spec even through break in and it was perfectly damp but not flinging after adjustment. The only problem is that I had to mount it horizontally on the subframe because of its size and it leaked out the fill spout on the top. I have to say I've been lubing chains for years now and this already looks like it does a much better job. I think it's not about the chain rings it's about the chain to sprocket wear and a lot of touring riders swear by these. I ride long distance and to me it's worth it. Anyways I appreciate the offer Gunnar, I'll pm you later with details!
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dashiznit1
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Post by dashiznit1 on Feb 17, 2020 7:48:22 GMT -7
Here's a thought? Do they need to be oiled at all? The o-rings, z-rings or x-rings whatever they are, are designed to keep shite getting in. Thus they are designed to stop shite getting out. Chains are lubed when made and sealed so is any further lubrication actually going to do anything? I will always lightly lube and clean my chain but wonder what I'm actually doing Sadie from along it look nice. In fact, some lubes such as WD40 can actually perish rubber so is it doing more harm? So back to the OP, Scott oilers... is it worth the money and is it actually doing anything if the oil can't get through the seals? Just a thought. It's not about the chain seals it's about the sprocket wear. Plenty of people say they make a huge difference in longevity if you ride long distance like me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 23:34:55 GMT -7
It'd be interesting to know how much of a difference it makes with the sprockets. But just like with tires, where the front typically wears less than the rear, I always replace them in pairs. I haven't had to replace a chain yet, but if I do, I'd also replace the sprockets, so to me, no need to be obsessive with the maintenance. Plus HATE the mess chain oil makes, so rather replace sprockets early than to put up with an oily mess, but that's just me. Ha ha. But as always, to each his own. Let us know how much extra life you get with the oiler, out of curiosity . Good luck.
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Post by rracerfz10 on Feb 18, 2020 18:39:08 GMT -7
All u need is this! Best stuff I’ve ever used on a chain! Wheels will stay clean also! Exactly. Chain wax is all you need aside from cleaning the chain periodically. Chain oilers were a thing waaaay back in the day before O and X ring chains. I’ve been riding for 22 years so I remember those days lol. All the chain wax and lubes are for these days is really to prevent surface rust.
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Post by gunnar on Mar 4, 2020 16:31:42 GMT -7
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Post by vstate60 on Mar 7, 2020 19:21:14 GMT -7
All u need is this! Best stuff I’ve ever used on a chain! Wheels will stay clean also! Exactly. Chain wax is all you need aside from cleaning the chain periodically. Chain oilers were a thing waaaay back in the day before O and X ring chains. I’ve been riding for 22 years so I remember those days lol. All the chain wax and lubes are for these days is really to prevent surface rust. Until I start using this stuff—how the hell do I get my rear wheel clean? I even tried shotgun/bore cleaner...
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Post by clayton on Mar 7, 2020 20:23:01 GMT -7
Exactly. Chain wax is all you need aside from cleaning the chain periodically. Chain oilers were a thing waaaay back in the day before O and X ring chains. I’ve been riding for 22 years so I remember those days lol. All the chain wax and lubes are for these days is really to prevent surface rust. Until I start using this stuff—how the hell do I get my rear wheel clean? I even tried shotgun/bore cleaner... Just regular soap and water should clean it! I’ve never had any issues with my fluorescent yellow rims.
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Post by dkim213 on Mar 7, 2020 20:57:17 GMT -7
Exactly. Chain wax is all you need aside from cleaning the chain periodically. Chain oilers were a thing waaaay back in the day before O and X ring chains. I’ve been riding for 22 years so I remember those days lol. All the chain wax and lubes are for these days is really to prevent surface rust. Until I start using this stuff—how the hell do I get my rear wheel clean? I even tried shotgun/bore cleaner... I use meguiar’s ultimate all wheel cleaner. Works great.
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Post by wjcbsr on Mar 8, 2020 0:04:09 GMT -7
Modern o-ring chains are sealed. You don't need to lube them.
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Post by gunnar on Mar 8, 2020 8:01:44 GMT -7
Modern o-ring chains are sealed. You don't need to lube them. As you stated earlier. Also stated earlier, this isn't about getting lube inside the chain, it's about lubing the rollers and sprockets to slow down wear. vstate- talk about wet and messy, any way to hang a Depends back there? I might be able to come up with a diaper holding bracket.
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Post by vstate60 on Mar 8, 2020 22:26:48 GMT -7
Modern o-ring chains are sealed. You don't need to lube them. As you stated earlier. Also stated earlier, this isn't about getting lube inside the chain, it's about lubing the rollers and sprockets to slow down wear. vstate- talk about wet and messy, any way to hang a Depends back there? I might be able to come up with a diaper holding bracket. No thanks to you guys I got them shined up real good-like again. I need to religiously clean my rear wheel like I religiously lube the chain and religiously ride this bike day in and day out lol. Goo-gone, some degreaser stuff from Lowe’s, and some shop rags got me back to new again. We’ll see if I can stay on top of it this time around.
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Post by vstate60 on Mar 8, 2020 22:27:22 GMT -7
Modern o-ring chains are sealed. You don't need to lube them. Tell me you don’t do anything to your chain and you actually ride?
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