bigkurka
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Post by bigkurka on Nov 4, 2018 19:19:48 GMT -7
So just had my 600 mile breakin service done. They did the typical services they do and I had the double check the ticking tapping noise I'm hearing. They used 10-50 yamalube full synthetic. Anyways I explained to them that there is a very loud tapping noise for the first few miles of riding when I come to a stop, but after 3-4 miles it would quiet down. (Reminds me of a loose rocker arm on an old v8 engine or an engine with no oil in it) The tech test rode the bike but it was already warmed up so it really wasn't making the tapping noise and they told me that the noises I'm hearing are normal. So since the service my the tapping noise seems to be getting louder and taking longer and longer for it to quiet down like it used to. Also now I can hear this tapping noise while I'm driving at appox 50 mph seems to go away with RPM above 6k. Anyone experience this??? Also just to be clear I know these motors are very noisy, but the tapping noise I'm talking about appears to be a separate noise from the timing chain tensioner. What do you guys think? Should I bring the bike back to the dealer? or am I being overly cautious about this
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Post by aussie on Nov 4, 2018 19:44:36 GMT -7
Yep. I definitely noticed it on my new MT-10SP after 15 years with Kawasakis. A few people here and other Yamaha forums have mentioned it. Apparently it is the automatic cam chain tensioner. Very common Yamaha sound. I think we just need a louder exhaust. Apparently you can get a manual tensioner if the sound is really bothering you. Edit - here is the other thread - fz10.org/thread/1525/installed-manual-cam-chain-tensioner |
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bigkurka
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Post by bigkurka on Nov 4, 2018 20:38:43 GMT -7
Thanks for the reply Aussie. I know about the tensioner noise but I feel that the tapping noise might not be the tensioner. The noise sounds like a sharp metal on metal tapping noise kinda like taking a wrench and banging it against the side of the motor. My concern is making sure it is normal. If its normal then no worries. For comparison the tapping noise seems louder than some of the ducatis are to give you an ideal of how loud it is
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Post by aussie on Nov 4, 2018 21:07:42 GMT -7
No worries. How you describe the noise is exactly how I would describe it also, so I think we are talking about the same thing. I mentioned it at my first service and the manager said the sound was normal. He also mentioned that as it was a performance engine, less material is used to insulate mechanical noise compared to other models. Not sure how true that this but maybe there is something to that.
In terms of Ducati, I used to have a 900SS with a dry clutch and that was really noisy. This sound isn't as bad as that.
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bigkurka
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Post by bigkurka on Nov 4, 2018 21:23:07 GMT -7
Thanks again Aussie. Reading what you're saying make me feel better. I did buy the extended warranty so I'm not going to worry about the noise and start riding this bad boy like its supposed to be ridden. If it blows up it blows up. Thanks again
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 23:41:10 GMT -7
The 'problem' is the 15/50 oil, especially now that is getting cooler. Our bikes have 10/40 from the factory (dino, since Yamalube doesn't make a full synthetic 10/40 for motorcycles), which is thinner; that's why it made less noise before (starts lubricating quicker). I honestly wouldn't use 15/50 unless you were tracking your bike. It takes longer to lubricate when cold, and it's thicker when hot too, and unless you're beating on the motor at the track, it's just not necessary for the street, but up to you. My bike has only 97 miles, but will switch to 5/40 full synthetic Castrol Power1 4T at 600 or less. It's going to lubricate the engine even quicker than 10/40, with the same protection at operating temperature (40). If you want to wait, I'd let you know, but with 5/40 the engine shouldn't make any 'dry' noises, or hardly any. It's not good for the engine. As you know, the majority of wear is at start up, so using 15/50 is counterproductive. Yamaha should have specified that 15/50 was for track use, but to each his own. You'll hear contrary comments, but do your research and arrive at your own conclusion. Good luck.
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Post by aussie on Nov 5, 2018 0:46:27 GMT -7
FWIW, my Yamaha dealer is part of the biggest chain in Australia and they used Motul instead of Yamalube. My other bikes I had serviced at this chain also used Motul across all stores.
On a side note, this bike is crazy powerful. I had two Z1000's previously and this thing is soooo much faster. I'm riding in mode C just to try and get used to it even after 3 months and 3000 km's. It has caught me by surprise a couple of times even after 20 plus years of daily riding.
Have fun on your new ride guys and hope you enjoy the cooler weather. Your friends down under are melting in the heat.
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Post by peripateticmike on Nov 5, 2018 10:41:04 GMT -7
Oh for f**ks sake...
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Post by exuptoy on Nov 5, 2018 13:04:21 GMT -7
Am I sensing some tension here.  Haha. |
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Post by peripateticmike on Nov 5, 2018 15:25:20 GMT -7
Nope. The block feature on here is a great thing!
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Post by bigkurka on Nov 5, 2018 15:32:25 GMT -7
Thanks elptxjc, aussie for the replies. I didn't pick the oil when they serviced the bike. The service manager told that's what they use for all the bikes they service and being that I live in southern California the temperature doesn't get to cold. The past few weeks its been in the high 60's in the morning and high 70's when I ride home. I think I'm going to try the motul or evn the Castrol oil on my next oil change and see what happens. aussie I know what you mean about the power it is insane. Almost can't keep the front wheel down on hard launches, I get a little spooked to try wheelies with the clutch. Thanks again everyone. |
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Post by peripateticmike on Nov 5, 2018 15:46:06 GMT -7
Where in socal? I'm in north SD county
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 16:43:43 GMT -7
Nope. The block feature on here is a great thing! Indeed. Already exercised (you're the first) to avoid your whining. OP, you're right that dealers typically use 15/50 because that's the only Yamalube made in synthetic, but if you don't track, it's too heavy for normal use, but as I said, do your research and arrive to your own conclusions. |
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Post by peripateticmike on Nov 5, 2018 17:21:35 GMT -7
Yes, do your own research and don't listen to forum wanna be know it alls! "hehe"
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Post by bigkurka on Nov 5, 2018 17:58:14 GMT -7
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Post by peripateticmike on Nov 5, 2018 18:19:33 GMT -7
Ok that's pretty far. This guy is in Romona. If you wanted to travel he's well known and highly respected. |
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