osiris10012
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Post by osiris10012 on Jun 4, 2017 17:02:50 GMT -7
I'm at eielson afb in fairbanks alaska Yikes... I don't feel so bad down here in Jacksonville, NC now. Haha. I'm getting ready to pcs so I'm happy. 4 years has been long enough up here.
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dexter
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Post by dexter on Jun 4, 2017 17:19:50 GMT -7
Yikes... I don't feel so bad down here in Jacksonville, NC now. Haha. I'm getting ready to pcs so I'm happy. 4 years has been long enough up here. What base are you going to next? Look into Moron AB if you haven't been yet. Plenty of good roads to ride with Jerez track only 50 minutes away....
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Post by osiris10012 on Jun 4, 2017 21:06:31 GMT -7
Haha. I'm getting ready to pcs so I'm happy. 4 years has been long enough up here. What base are you going to next? Look into Moron AB if you haven't been yet. Plenty of good roads to ride with Jerez track only 50 minutes away.... I'm heading to luke afb next.
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Post by kup0236 on Jun 5, 2017 4:34:20 GMT -7
What base are you going to next? Look into Moron AB if you haven't been yet. Plenty of good roads to ride with Jerez track only 50 minutes away.... I'm heading to luke afb next. Spent six years at Luke. I'm out now and I still live in PHX. Love Arizona. You can ride year round.
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sumgi
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Post by sumgi on Jun 5, 2017 21:00:43 GMT -7
I don't find it twitchy at all? Standard mode is unusable, it was designed for someone with absolutely no throttle control, and requires way to much throttle to do anything. A mode has a non-linear ramp rate, and is okay for low speed pot-hole infested city streets, but any enthusiastic riding, and the ramp rate really makes things awkward. B mode is what I use 99 percent of the time, and it's perfectly smooth... The GSXS-1000 gets the same complaints, and I found that bike perfectly smooth too... When I grow up, I wanna be just like you!!! Only noobs ride in standard mode and the pros (like you) ride in B mode! lol!!!! Riding in B mode doesn't make you a hard ass rider. Some people like the comfort and ease of riding in standard mode. Nothing wrong with that. There is plenty of fun to be had in any mode!
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Post by audiblepop94 on Jun 6, 2017 1:23:23 GMT -7
I don't find it twitchy at all? Standard mode is unusable, it was designed for someone with absolutely no throttle control, and requires way to much throttle to do anything. A mode has a non-linear ramp rate, and is okay for low speed pot-hole infested city streets, but any enthusiastic riding, and the ramp rate really makes things awkward. B mode is what I use 99 percent of the time, and it's perfectly smooth... The GSXS-1000 gets the same complaints, and I found that bike perfectly smooth too... When I grow up, I wanna be just like you!!! Only noobs ride in standard mode and the pros (like you) ride in B mode! lol!!!! Riding in B mode doesn't make you a hard ass rider. Some people like the comfort and ease of riding in standard mode. Nothing wrong with that. There is plenty of fun to be had in any mode! So what he was saying is.. all I have to do is put it in b mode and I become a pro?!
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mcryder
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Post by mcryder on Jun 8, 2017 8:09:59 GMT -7
Just finished riding the FZ with the Throttle Tamer and I didn't really care for it. Again these are only my opinions yours may differ. In normal straight line starts and acceleration it seems OK but no dramatic improvement. When attempting slow speed technical maneuvers, like moving U turns, figure 8's, and U turns from a dead stop, I found it to be non linear when applying the throttle, which is actually consistent with the product design and intent. It was too unresponsive in the beginning and then the throttle would come on again. My overall impression was; though not perfect I prefer the stock set up.
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mcryder
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Post by mcryder on Jun 8, 2017 9:03:37 GMT -7
Just got off the phone with G2 the company that makes and sells the Throttle Tamer. I found them to be exceptionally helpful and took the time to listen to my concerns. G2 is sending me a stock cam profile that will replace the Y400 profile currently on the throttle tube at no additional charge (normally $25). This is above and beyond my expectations or G2's responsibility and I am very thankful. The tube itself is way to nice to discard so I am happy I can continue to use it in the stock form.
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osiris10012
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Post by osiris10012 on Jun 8, 2017 18:01:54 GMT -7
Nice. Curious if you notice a difference with the new cam profile
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Post by thomascrown on Jun 9, 2017 8:07:59 GMT -7
I don't find it twitchy at all? Standard mode is unusable, it was designed for someone with absolutely no throttle control, and requires way to much throttle to do anything. A mode has a non-linear ramp rate, and is okay for low speed pot-hole infested city streets, but any enthusiastic riding, and the ramp rate really makes things awkward. B mode is what I use 99 percent of the time, and it's perfectly smooth... The GSXS-1000 gets the same complaints, and I found that bike perfectly smooth too... When I grow up, I wanna be just like you!!! Only noobs ride in standard mode and the pros (like you) ride in B mode! lol!!!! Riding in B mode doesn't make you a hard ass rider. Some people like the comfort and ease of riding in standard mode. Nothing wrong with that. There is plenty of fun to be had in any mode! I never said riding in STD makes you a shitty rider, no need to get butthurt. You need tons of throttle to leave from 1st gear in STD mode, and tons of throttle to rev match a downshift. It is not comfortable or easy, given the amount of twisting of the throttle you have to do. It feels alien to me, coming from traditional cable operated bikes. I can understand A mode having softer pickup for low speed corners, but STD is like having the throttle bodies dipped in molasses. From Stoltec: It sounds like the OP needs a less abrupt tip-in, for that, I would talk to Stoltec. The issue should be fixed via software, not hardware:
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thomascrown
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Post by thomascrown on Jun 9, 2017 8:31:05 GMT -7
You can see from the charts, B mode is the most predictable as it's linear, and has the lowest "kick" on tip-in stock.
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Post by osiris10012 on Jun 9, 2017 17:15:36 GMT -7
I have been riding around in A mode all week and definitely like it better than the STD mode. Now that I'm getting used to it I plan to try B mode next week. Curious how it will feel.
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Post by gfaegenburg on Jun 17, 2017 19:10:03 GMT -7
My solution was getting a handy little item called the Throttle-Rocker. It is basically a palm rest for your throttle hand. It has a Velcro strap and a wide rubber band you put on around the throttle which provides a secure anchor to the Rocker. You won't believe how much easier it is to master the jump this bike has. I never take the bike out of B-Mode now. Made by Aztec Cargo, you can get it on Amazon for about 11 bucks. simple to install. I also changed to a softer grip set on my bike. The FZ-10 will wear your body out in a hurry. Let me know if you need help tracking this down. https image
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Post by gfaegenburg on Jun 17, 2017 19:17:46 GMT -7
One other thought on this also: I see a lot of discussion regarding the Drive-Mode. You may also find more improvement in turning off Traction Control if you are riding on nice days and completely dry streets. Then it is just you and the bike!
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Post by arcaos84 on Jun 20, 2017 8:24:20 GMT -7
One other thought on this also: I see a lot of discussion regarding the Drive-Mode. You may also find more improvement in turning off Traction Control if you are riding on nice days and completely dry streets. Then it is just you and the bike! This. It is adjustable on the fly for a reason. I myself ride about 95-99% in B mode with Traction at 1. I live in FL and I want my responses from the throttle more immediate. It's not about being L33t or a bad ass because I ride in B.... It's because I prefer the responsiveness of the throttle because it fits my aggressive riding style. The low speed (>5 mph) chopping doesn't bother me too much, but I see how some may not like it. I don't experience much slam jam traffic, so I can see how it can be annoying if you're electronics aren't set to the situation. On my recent trip to GA I found that on the highways I prefer A mode when I had to intervene in throttle changes, when I wasn't using cruise control. I also saw better gas mileage in A mode. When I got to ATL I set the bike to STD and possibly had it on Trac2... might have been 1, can't 100% say with certainty, but it wasn't bad at low slam jam traffic stop and starts. I think I was experiencing lower chopping as well. Moral of the story, if you use the "set it and forget it" mentality when using the electronics you are missing out on the full potential of the bike. Many may be ok with that, to each their own.
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Post by 0002s on Jun 20, 2017 9:55:33 GMT -7
It's a low end torque liter bike. It's going to be 'twichty". Not the best bike for smooth stop and go city riding. The Rebel 500 or Scout 66, now there are some perfect stop and go city bikes.
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Post by harrybalzak on Jun 21, 2017 13:17:25 GMT -7
I don't mind the low speed stutter, I just hate the snatchy on/off throttle response and all the engine braking. The fueling on this bike sucks and needs work, just like the FZ09, and the FZ1 before it. And before you school me on it being the characteristic of a torquey liter bike, I've ridden the KTM 1290 super duke, a Speed Triple, BMW S1000R, and a couple other modern liter bikes and Yamaha is the only one that has the abrupt snatchy fuel cut off and heavy engine braking.
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sumgi
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Post by sumgi on Jun 21, 2017 14:25:36 GMT -7
The more I have played with the different modes the more I notice the different curves. I really do like how the power seems to pull all through the gear in A mode as opposed to standard where it seems to drop off quite early. I haven't throttled up much in B mode yet. It's been a slow month of riding lately.
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