satorifz10
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Post by satorifz10 on Apr 24, 2017 22:35:50 GMT -7
My previous bike was a zx6r... had for a couple years and wanted something with more usable power, more torque and definitely more comfortable ergonomics so i ended up getting the FZ10 and i love it.
When i showed my bike to a friend that has a new s1000rr he said "i was too young for this bike" so i told him he was too unexperienced for his bike (considering his big chiken strips and overall lack of experience)
I am 25 years old. I dont believe anyone is too "young" or "old" for any bike as long as you have the ability to ride it.
But, i have been reading a lot on this site and seems like a lot of FZ owners are much older (which is great)
My question is... how many of you guys are in ur 20s and own a FZ10??
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guywithfz10
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Post by guywithfz10 on Apr 24, 2017 23:17:45 GMT -7
I'm 22. My first bike was a Yamaha V-Star 250. I got a 2013 Kawasaki ZX6R after that and rode that for about a year before getting the FZ-10. I was originally going to get a R1 but after going on some long road trips on the ZX6R I realized I loved long distance touring more than anything. So I got the FZ-10 after selling the ZX6R because it had the sexy crossplane engine combined with comfort. Just looking forward to summer when road maintenance is done and I can go on some long trips on my bike.
Also, I don't understand the whole chicken strip thing or w/e that people always like to comment on. I totally respect the guys with the balls to drag a knee around the mountains here doing more than triple the speed limit. I could never do it because I don't want to lose my license and pay fines for the next 5 years. But not everyone gets into riding because they want to drag a knee or race on the track. If I was going to get another sport bike, it would be the S1000RR and I would go touring on it. And the "too young for the bike" is just a weird comment to make. There are plenty of bad old riders and good young riders, its just that statistics usually point at younger individuals to be higher risk because Johnny got a R6 at 18 and crashed it.
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warnock
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Post by warnock on Apr 25, 2017 5:35:41 GMT -7
I am 22 also, I had a R6 and FZ07 before this. This bike is definitely the best one I have owned yet. I always get compliments on it. I think it has everything you really need an it fits me like a glove. I'm 6'4 200lbs.
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Post by slv on Apr 25, 2017 7:43:40 GMT -7
I'm 54 and honestly thought I'd be an anomaly on the FZ-10. Especially considering the large amount of older people who hate the design. As it turns out, there are several FZ-10 owners my age and several more even older.
I agree that there is no age:bike formula. I also agree that measuring chicken strips isn't an important metric in measuring ones skills. For one, the fines and license issues are a good point. Also, I've seen plenty of people hanging off their bike dragging knees while I'm right behind them on my Harley barely dragging foot boards. Just because you CAN drag a knee, doesn't make it the fastest line.
When I was 22, I had a KZ900 that I modded with a welded crank, a big bore kit and hot cams. The thing was insane for the period. I did some really risky things on that bike that I wouldn't do today. Mostly out of a sense of youth-fired immortality.
If there were any relation to age: bike, it would have to be related to experience and self control. I think we've all seen the inexperienced fool doing stupid things and getting hurt with very fast machines. But the experience and self control thing applies to simple street riding in traffic and anticipating what other drivers are going to do. These things don't come with age so much as they come with skill and riding intelligence. Age brings hours of practice if the rider is taking the opportunity to learn from experience.I've also seen plenty of old riders with very bad habits even though they have years of experience.
Have you ever met a 50-something lifelong rider who doesn't use the front brake because it's "dangerous"? I know one.
I know another old guy who claims he doesn't countersteer because he isn't interested in racing and never learned it. Apparently he never learned physics either!
In my opinion, you young riders can be as good or better than riders of any age if you actively understand the inputs to riding fast. Know what you're doing and why you're doing it and skills continuously improve.
By the way, the same applies to staying alive in traffic.
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daveinwoodland
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Post by daveinwoodland on Apr 25, 2017 8:30:36 GMT -7
I'm 54 and honestly thought I'd be an anomaly on the FZ-10. Especially considering the large amount of older people who hate the design. As it turns out, there are several FZ-10 owners my age and several more even older. I agree that there is no age:bike formula. I also agree that measuring chicken strips isn't an important metric in measuring ones skills. For one, the fines and license issues are a good point. Also, I've seen plenty of people hanging off their bike dragging knees while I'm right behind them on my Harley barely dragging foot boards. Just because you CAN drag a knee, doesn't make it the fastest line. When I was 22, I had a KZ900 that I modded with a welded crank, a big bore kit and hot cams. The thing was insane for the period. I did some really risky things on that bike that I wouldn't do today. Mostly out of a sense of youth-fired immortality. If there were any relation to age: bike, it would have to be related to experience and self control. I think we've all seen the inexperienced fool doing stupid things and getting hurt with very fast machines. But the experience and self control thing applies to simple street riding in traffic and anticipating what other drivers are going to do. These things don't come with age so much as they come with skill and riding intelligence. Age brings hours of practice if the rider is taking the opportunity to learn from experience.I've also seen plenty of old riders with very bad habits even though they have years of experience. Have you ever met a 50-something lifelong rider who doesn't use the front brake because it's "dangerous"? I know one. I know another old guy who claims he doesn't countersteer because he isn't interested in racing and never learned it. Apparently he never learned physics either! In my opinion, you young riders can be as good or better than riders of any age if you actively understand the inputs to riding fast. Know what you're doing and why you're doing it and skills continuously improve. By the way, the same applies to staying alive in traffic. Sounds exactly like my previous experience and even the KZ-900 except I had a 900LTD. Good advice here for our "younger" riders too. |
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Post by 0002s on Apr 25, 2017 19:37:42 GMT -7
49 here
I can't lean over comfortably for long rides anymore and don't like my feet forward either. The 10 fit me perfect.
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dnarook
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Post by dnarook on Apr 25, 2017 22:38:48 GMT -7
52, been riding over 1/2 of them. I cannot get enough of the FZ10. Hey... It's not my fault Yamaha waited until now to build the perfect streetfighter.  |
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Post by evitzee on Apr 26, 2017 8:05:42 GMT -7
Raw age doesn't really have anything to do with whether an FZ-10 is suitable or not. It all comes down to responsibility and experience. I would not put a newbie on a powerful bike like the FZ-10, but with a couple of years of solid experience on lesser machines, and a good sense of responsibility and respect an FZ-10 is fine. I don't get the chicken strips fetish either, very few riders live in areas where they can ride predominantly leaned over. It's got nothing to do with bravado in the corners, it is about where one lives and how one rides that determines how a rear tire wears out.
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Post by 0002s on Apr 26, 2017 8:48:55 GMT -7
Body height, weight, and strength will determine the size/weight of a bike you can safely ride.
Body physical limitations will determine the type of bike you can comfortably ride for any time.
Maturity to ride within one's ability is something that one either has or doesn't. Age has little to do with it. But, the older you get 'usually' the more you mature due to experience. That being said, I've seen a metric shit ton of HD cruiser riders in tank tops, shorts, no helmet and gloves that are well past the age that they should 'know better'. Then there is the stereotypical 600cc sports bike rider that pulls wheelies all the time.
While I would always suggest a new rider start on a small less powerful bike, if the bike fits the rider's body, the cc has little to do with anything if they have the maturity to ride within their limits. (jm2c)
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Post by slv on Apr 26, 2017 10:34:31 GMT -7
Body height, weight, and strength will determine the size/weight of a bike you can safely ride. Body physical limitations will determine the type of bike you can comfortably ride for any time. Maturity to ride within one's ability is something that one either has or doesn't. Age has little to do with it. But, the older you get 'usually' the more you mature due to experience. That being said, I've seen a metric shit ton of HD cruiser riders in tank tops, shorts, no helmet and gloves that are well past the age that they should 'know better'. Then there is the stereotypical 600cc sports bike rider that pulls wheelies all the time. While I would always suggest a new rider start on a small less powerful bike, if the bike fits the rider's body, the cc has little to do with anything if they have the maturity to ride within their limits. (jm2c) I live in Georgia which, contrary to it being the #1 anti-fed state, is a helmet-law state. I guess federal interference is OK if it comes with a $$$ check $$$. Anyway, I live 5 miles from South Carolina, and 80 miles from Florida, neither of which has a helmet-law. I also travel often to my company headquarters in the no helmet-law state of Oklahoma. I see just as many sport and street fighter riders (by rough %) without helmets as I do cruiser people. Shorts, flip-flops, tank tops, the whole outfit. Sport bikes with short-short girls squatting on the back too. I think the decision to wear safety gear is not limited to cruiser riders, it's just that the vast majority of bikes in the US are cruisers. It does tend to be younger people on the non-cruisers who take these risks, while all ages of cruiser riders exercise this "freedom." 🤔 I'm often baffled by the people who stop at state lines to remove a perfectly good helmet and strap it to their luggage. This reminds me of the annual Darwin awards. |
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Post by 0002s on Apr 26, 2017 10:53:53 GMT -7
If people choose to break the driving/riding laws, their actions have legal repercussions. If people choose to increase their risk by not wearing appropriate gear, to each their own. If people choose to increase their risk by treating the roads like a race track or stunt tract, to each their own. (Although it irritates me that they increase the risk to others).
Point is, age doesn't change the fact that people preform risky actions on a bike. Age tends to give one a experience based perspective to the consequences of their actions.
There is a character defect that some have, irrelevant of age, that cause them to take absorbingly higher risks than they normally would once they get on a bike.
Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes.
If I had to venture a guess as to why older people tend to ride the FZ-10 is the cost and the riding position. Older people tend to have more expendable income and shittier backs.
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thomascrown
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Post by thomascrown on Apr 26, 2017 22:17:05 GMT -7
I'm 34. Got the 10 because it fits my needs as a daily commuter. If this was a weekend only bike, would have gotten the R1S.
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rs
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Post by rs on Apr 27, 2017 7:46:50 GMT -7
My feeling is that the price point also plays a role in the age of the buyer. Prob safe to say a lot of "younger" riders wont or cant invest the money. Those young whipper snappers want those fairings. Now get off my lawn!!
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Post by tradmark on Apr 27, 2017 22:01:25 GMT -7
I have had an interesting road to the fz10. I am 44 and have 8 kiddos most that are old enough to ride. I had a zx14r. Rather comfortable for a sportbike bit when a bought a vmax it was a no brainer to lose the 14. The vmax gave the same power basically but comfortable. I also had a ninja 1000. My cousin with a z1000 and used to ride with a friend with a s1000rr before he moved. We ran away from him everywhere except the top end above 120 on the z and above 140 on the vmax. We never ever spend time there so that was no benefit. At my age i never was able to ride his s1000rr longer than 15 minutes comfortably and his is not truly comfortable for him for long either anymore and hes 32. We went and met up in the hill country for a ride thru the twisted sisters and to the motogp races. Not surprisingly we, with very little effort left him thru the turns and waited for him to stretch every 60 miles or so. His power is just plain unuseable. He doesnt even get into the meat of the powerband before 100 anyway and thats in 2nd gear. He spent all day shifting while i just rode in 4th and my cousin rarely left top gear on his vmax. Funny thing is my son was right behind me in his street triple the whole time. His chicken strips were 2" on each side. U dont have to lose em to prove competency but if theyre that big then it is a good indication u cant corner imho. This ride is why i bought the fz. I know where my power needs to be. I know what a safe pace is on the road and that unless its a looooong straight for miles and ur willing to risk jail time and thousands in fines that beeemer isnt better in any way shape or form. The comfort and powerband is king and if u cant corner a top flight superbike isnt gonna fix it. Coming to this conclusion isnt about age but rider maturity. Kinda why my 21 yo son bought a street triple and not a daytona or another supersport. He will never trade comfort for a little more topend power.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 3:24:10 GMT -7
Been riding since I was 10 yrs old (36 yrs of riding). I have always said a bike is only as dangerous as the idiot twisting the throttle. LOL
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sumgi
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Post by sumgi on Apr 29, 2017 12:37:11 GMT -7
Been riding since I was 10 yrs old (36 yrs of riding). I have always said a bike is only as dangerous as the idiot twisting the throttle. LOL That's what I always say! So true! I'm actually very inexperienced at riding; I just got my endorsement last year. I'm 37 and a bit more mature than I was in my early 20's. My first bike was a CB1000R and traded it in for the FZ-10. I wanted to grow into a bike rather than out of one shortly after buying it. I never do anything out of my comfort zone or do anything stupid...at least intentionally lol! Plus I'm sure I never would have been able to afford an FZ10 back in my 20's. |
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Post by fzwaffle on Apr 29, 2017 19:22:38 GMT -7
24 here. Definitely a bike you need to respect more, that said I love the traction control and abs for a street machine. Got my endorsement at 18, had a few duals sports, 600s, and this is my first 1000.
Worked at a bike shop that had a lot of demo bikes, was always taking panigales, scramblers, mosnters, diavels out to lunch.
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