jayman
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Post by jayman on Jan 30, 2017 9:50:12 GMT -7
I have a race with my son on his Gixer 600 this weekend at the 1/4 track. What do you think I should set the traction control to. I'm thinking B mode with a (2) traction control? I'm new on this bike my old Bike was a ZRX1200 and I have Zero 1/4 mile experience.
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latte
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Post by latte on Jan 30, 2017 11:51:25 GMT -7
Those settings should help with wheelie control but I've found that best times are achieved with nannies off. Takes a lot of practice to deal with the short wheelbase though. Those settings will give you a "time to beat".
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latte
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Post by latte on Jan 30, 2017 12:54:39 GMT -7
600's will run low 11 and high 10, FZ should do mid 10. Good launch is key.
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Post by arcaos84 on Jan 30, 2017 13:03:59 GMT -7
You should smoke him in A mode on trac 2 if you're worried about rainbow-ing the bike. Even with some loss time with a slow clutch release (to avoid front lift off, natural response) the low end should get you up and past. I used to run with B mode and trac on 2 on my daily, recently turned down to trac 1. Dank wooleys bruh, dank wooleys. Just be ready for the front to come up under heavy load in 1st and 2nd, be ready to just run out the wheelie if it happens and you should be fine. DO NOT HEAT UP TIRE IN LANE (burnout). I see this every time, some hotshot thinks it's cool and they'll get the quickest time by out running/over heating their rear tire. Usually they're severely inexperienced and think it's necessary, it's not for just a go without the proper experience. IMO especially on our bikes with a shorter wheelbase. You do this be ready to say hello to grandma as you provide a perfect example of what I like to call the Rainbow effect. Thus proving once again, in the states, they'll sell a 100 mph+ high performance machine to any pleb that walks in the door.  Don't be this guy. Joking aside you should be fine as long as you ride within' your limits, but are aware of the habits of the bike should you push yours as well as the bike's. When I don't want the front to lift I usually roll on kinda hard, not jerk it back, and the front feels lite but doesn't lift off. I'm 220lbs 6'2", I've pulled it hard in first with front lift, slightly dipped down planted bike whilst quickly shifting and pulling harder lifting front and eventually found ground while not dropping too much rpm's but enough to make sure the front comes down light while keeping speed. (B)east Mode (2)Trac. Have fun be safe. You don't have to win them all, especially the first one. Be confident, but know yourself and your bike before being a total hoon.  |
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hext
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Post by hext on Jan 30, 2017 21:14:34 GMT -7
I've launched mine from a dig a hand full of times on the street (beat a Buell 1125R, R6, and a Concours14 easily..). I found that Standard with TCS1 was the best for me. The throttle is soft enough down low that getting the clutch out while rolling on the power wasn't too tricky, then it's just a matter of shifting into 2nd at the right time to help the front end fall. I have a quickshifter and a flashtune, so I find that it still lofts the front tire in 3rd up to around 90mph. Just be ready for that, stay smooth, and be willing to roll off the throttle to drop the front tire and get back into it without bouncing the front end.
Make more than one pass if you can. It's a fun bike!
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jayman
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Post by jayman on Feb 1, 2017 10:10:35 GMT -7
Thanks for the reply I'll let you guys know how I did. PS I'm going to kick his ass
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mitchplease
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Post by mitchplease on Dec 20, 2017 12:35:36 GMT -7
Well... Now I wanna know what happened!
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Post by evitzee on Dec 20, 2017 13:26:57 GMT -7
Well... Now I wanna know what happened! Yeah, well, jayman only posted twice and hasn't been heard of since. Another enthusiast, pfft, gone with the wind.
Unless people participate in the forum it gets to be a lonely place. A lot of people ask questions, get a lot of input/knowledge from the members, and then are never heard from again. If you're lurkin' here you should be jumping in and joining in the conversation. Everybody has something to contribute.
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Post by achrista on Dec 20, 2017 17:28:20 GMT -7
Well... Now I wanna know what happened! Yeah, well, jayman only posted twice and hasn't been heard of since. Another enthusiast, pfft, gone with the wind.
Unless people participate in the forum it gets to be a lonely place. A lot of people ask questions, get a lot of input/knowledge from the members, and then are never heard from again. If you're lurkin' here you should be jumping in and joining in the conversation. Everybody has something to contribute.
I am here almost every day, but it's so slow. I recently saw a reddit thread suggesting that most forums are suffering. The fact that all photobucket links are down doesn't help, but that's on the margin. The real problem is that this is a niche bike and it's relatively new. I used to browse the SV650 forums when I had one, and they were the polar opposite (massively popular bike that had been around for a while). Doesn't help that I just got my bike this past weekend and have yet to really ride it. |
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ikranmakto
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Post by ikranmakto on Dec 20, 2017 22:23:13 GMT -7
I'm guessing he lost to his son's Gixxer,
Type of bike and set up is irrelevant anyway in this case, comes down to who has the most skill on track.
I've seen people on 1000's get smoked by 300cc's on track days.
I also stick my head in here most days to see what is new and what has been posted.
I was a member of another site based in the UK which went belly up about a month back, pity as there were at least 10 new posts everyday right up until it crashed.
Being from Oz, we don't seem to have the numbers of owners to make it viable to host our own FZ/MT 10 Forum so I've joined here and the UK site, both seem to be rather quiet.
I agree totally with what has been written, if members don't keep posting the site gets stale and people will lose interest.
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Post by superspirit on Dec 21, 2017 10:33:14 GMT -7
This is all true, I visit everyday to see what's posted but rarely post myself. I've noticed all the forums I've been involved in seem to be fizzling out. I'm thinking the fad has worn off! hope I'm wrong as there is a lot of knowledge shared in forums. You must have participation to keep them alive.
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Post by daveinwoodland on Dec 21, 2017 15:22:48 GMT -7
A previous FZ-10 site I used to go to was aways pretty glacial. Not many posts, not many members. I stopped going there recently when all a sudden any post would get a "your post will be moderated before appearing". That was enough for me since they never "moderated" anything. I here for now but we'll see how long that lasts too I guess.
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rs
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Post by rs on Dec 23, 2017 20:42:27 GMT -7
Also winter time and not much riding in a lot of areas which I feel results in less activity. Add on xmas vacations (ie.. not surfing at work) and being out of town do not help.
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Post by thomascrown on Dec 28, 2017 0:00:23 GMT -7
I'm guessing he lost to his son's Gixxer, Type of bike and set up is irrelevant anyway in this case, comes down to who has the most skill on track. I've seen people on 1000's get smoked by 300cc's on track days. I also stick my head in here most days to see what is new and what has been posted. I was a member of another site based in the UK which went belly up about a month back, pity as there were at least 10 new posts everyday right up until it crashed. Being from Oz, we don't seem to have the numbers of owners to make it viable to host our own FZ/MT 10 Forum so I've joined here and the UK site, both seem to be rather quiet. I agree totally with what has been written, if members don't keep posting the site gets stale and people will lose interest. I still think if you put two beginners on a 600 and a 10, the 10 will be much faster. You really have to know what you're doing with the launch on a 600. With a liter bike, you can granny it off the line, and rely on the Saturn V off-idle thrust. The only benefit with the 600 is not having to worry about it looping you out. They are dogs down low. |
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Post by ikranmakto on Dec 28, 2017 4:50:01 GMT -7
I still think if you put two beginners on a 600 and a 10, the 10 will be much faster. You really have to know what you're doing with the launch on a 600. With a liter bike, you can granny it off the line, and rely on the Saturn V off-idle thrust. The only benefit with the 600 is not having to worry about it looping you out. They are dogs down low. OK thomascrown I see your point, I misread the thread, I was thinking these guys were doing a track day, not a straight. This is not a common past time here in Australia, do you guys normally race over a 1/4 mile. Yeah the torque of the '10 would be hard to beat over that short distance with no corners. Don't know why you'd want to ride a motorcycle anywhere there are no corners involved though. |
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Post by jjsc6 on Dec 28, 2017 6:07:12 GMT -7
I'm guessing he lost to his son's Gixxer, Type of bike and set up is irrelevant anyway in this case, comes down to who has the most skill on track. I've seen people on 1000's get smoked by 300cc's on track days. I also stick my head in here most days to see what is new and what has been posted. I was a member of another site based in the UK which went belly up about a month back, pity as there were at least 10 new posts everyday right up until it crashed. Being from Oz, we don't seem to have the numbers of owners to make it viable to host our own FZ/MT 10 Forum so I've joined here and the UK site, both seem to be rather quiet. I agree totally with what has been written, if members don't keep posting the site gets stale and people will lose interest. I still think if you put two beginners on a 600 and a 10, the 10 will be much faster. You really have to know what you're doing with the launch on a 600. With a liter bike, you can granny it off the line, and rely on the Saturn V off-idle thrust. The only benefit with the 600 is not having to worry about it looping you out. They are dogs down low. I don't agree. Liter bikes will still stand the bike straight up at 80 mph on the pipe in second gear. |
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Post by heathhudnall on Dec 28, 2017 7:16:25 GMT -7
I check in everyday. It's in the 20's here, no riding for me. Just lots of internet riding and parts ordering for the spring.
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Post by papawheelie on Dec 28, 2017 8:43:09 GMT -7
I still think if you put two beginners on a 600 and a 10, the 10 will be much faster. You really have to know what you're doing with the launch on a 600. With a liter bike, you can granny it off the line, and rely on the Saturn V off-idle thrust. The only benefit with the 600 is not having to worry about it looping you out. They are dogs down low. OK thomascrown I see your point, I misread the thread, I was thinking these guys were doing a track day, not a straight. This is not a common past time here in Australia, do you guys normally race over a 1/4 mile. Yeah the torque of the '10 would be hard to beat over that short distance with no corners. Don't know why you'd want to ride a motorcycle anywhere there are no corners involved though. Pastime? Racing things and watching things being raced is definitely a favored pastime, yes! We like long tracks, short tracks, oval tracks (NASCAR), road, dirt, mud, tractor pulls, 1/4 mile, 1/8 mile, 0-60. We race cars, trucks, daily drivers, funny cars, top fuel cars, motorcycles, boats, lawnmowers, horses, dogs (have you seen wiener dog races???), turtles, and kids! Haha. Straight line, 1/4 mile drag races are one of many types of races that we enjoy. It’s quick, easy, inexpensive, and anyone can do it in any vehicle. The local venue near my home has a nice 1/4 mile track that sponsors "run what you brung" events every Friday night. Bring any vehicle that you want to race, pass strict safety inspections and rules, pay $40, and run down the 1/4 mile track against your buddies (or for personal best times) as many times as you can in the evening. Legally and safely. Every 60 seconds a new duo is racing down the track. It’s fun. Obviously, the 1/4 mile race is largely about launch and acceleration. Some guys build their vehicle strictly for this race, paying little attention to turning and braking ability and everything else that goes along with racing on a track. We like our 1/4 mile race, along with every other type of race. YouTube is chock-full of 1/4 mile races. This unofficial and commercialized 1/4 mile race is fun: www.facebook.com/downshiftaus/videos/1810942145583796/Imagine accelerating to 251 mph (404 km/h) in 6 seconds, or 1/4 mile! In a street legal car! |
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Post by jjsc6 on Dec 28, 2017 16:58:55 GMT -7
Pappawheelie, I laughed my ass off at your post. I'm 65 years old and can relate to most of your post. Over the years I've had some interesting races! For the record I have legally roadraced motorcycles about 35 years ago and drag raced a few of my Corvettes on just for fun nights....and did a little autocrossing. The rest not so legally. Well, except for some "Cigarette" boats I had. That is all legal once you get past the idle zones.
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Post by ikranmakto on Dec 28, 2017 23:44:50 GMT -7
Pastime? Racing things and watching things being raced is definitely a favored pastime, yes! We like long tracks, short tracks, oval tracks (NASCAR), road, dirt, mud, tractor pulls, 1/4 mile, 1/8 mile, 0-60. We race cars, trucks, daily drivers, funny cars, top fuel cars, motorcycles, boats, lawnmowers, horses, dogs (have you seen wiener dog races???), turtles, and kids! Haha. Straight line, 1/4 mile drag races are one of many types of races that we enjoy. It’s quick, easy, inexpensive, and anyone can do it in any vehicle. The local venue near my home has a nice 1/4 mile track that sponsors "run what you brung" events every Friday night. Bring any vehicle that you want to race, pass strict safety inspections and rules, pay $40, and run down the 1/4 mile track against your buddies (or for personal best times) as many times as you can in the evening. Legally and safely. Every 60 seconds a new duo is racing down the track. It’s fun. Obviously, the 1/4 mile race is largely about launch and acceleration. Some guys build their vehicle strictly for this race, paying little attention to turning and braking ability and everything else that goes along with racing on a track. We like our 1/4 mile race, along with every other type of race. YouTube is chock-full of 1/4 mile races. Thanks papawheelie, I feel so much more enlightened with your explanation of what can be competitively raced on a 1/4 mile track. Lol, the guy that posted this thread has no idea what he started. Yes pastime, auto correct likes to be sarcastic sometimes as well. |
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