gtayl09
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Post by gtayl09 on Oct 19, 2023 19:13:08 GMT -7
Hello everyone, first post, I'm new to the MT-10. Just bought it a month ago, went to put on exhaust and have had a lot of great experience with Yosh systems in the past. I bought the system from Starcycle.com, because they have it listed for a 2023. Well, it doesnt fit. The rear muffler stay isnt the same from a 2021 to a 2023, they are at different angles. I am afraid if I force it, it will break the exhaust. Does anyone know if the exhaust stay for a '21 would fit on a '23? They look the same size, just a bit of a different shape. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Post by RedAndBlack on Oct 19, 2023 20:32:53 GMT -7
Welcome to the forum.
I don't have a Yoshi exhaust so I don't know the answer, but looking at the different model year pics next to each other, they look similar enough that it's certainly a possibility.
Doing a deeper dive into the part numbers, the bolt that passes through the rearset that attach the stay is the same part number. But the rearsets themselves and some of the other parts that attach to that bolt appear to be different part numbers.
Sorry I don't have any good advice. If it were me, my main concern would be the return window for the exhaust. I wouldn't wait on parts if your return window was almost up especially from a little known site. Might want to reach out to the seller first to see what they can tell you or at least start the dialogue that the exhaust might have to go back to them and they should cover return shipping.
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Post by willl84 on Oct 20, 2023 2:18:06 GMT -7
There's been issues all over the FB groups of exhausts being different for the second gen (22+). Some fit fine while others do not. LeoVince for example lists a different link pipe for the second gen bikes.
If you go to the Yoshimura site they only list MT-10 up to 2021, so no second gen stuff. I'd contact the guys you bought it from and tell them it doesn't fit.
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gtayl09
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Post by gtayl09 on Oct 20, 2023 7:57:24 GMT -7
I appreciate the support, so what I have done is ordered the exhaust stay from the 2021 model, I do think it will work and will be the correct distance for the muffler to line up and be tightened down. I will update once completed, one way or another. Also, I sent my ecu out to Moore Mafia to get it tuned. I feel like there is conflicting information regarding the codes upon starting up the bike, do they clear out after a few rides, or do you have to manually clear them with a OBD2 device? Any help is greatly appreciated, motorcycles have changed drastically since the late 90's early 2000's.
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Post by gtayl09 on Oct 24, 2023 16:29:32 GMT -7
As an update, I purchased and received the muffler stay for the 1st Gen FZ/MT-10, and it bolts right up where it should be. Muffler hooked right up to it, and it looks amazing, BUT, with everything tightened down, the muffler is still able to move around and is loose. I have no clue what to do with it. Starcycle said they would take it back, however I cant find any other exhaust that will do the trick. If the exhaust says its good for 2017-2013 MT's, that's not possible with the different muffler stays. I cant put the stock system back on bc now my cpu is tuned for the 3/4 exhaust. I would totally rock the Leo Vince systems, but they are not in stock currently. Kind of looking like my bike season is done... I am open to any suggestions.
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Post by RedAndBlack on Oct 24, 2023 17:28:09 GMT -7
Damn that sucks! Wanna post any photos or videos and maybe we can help brainstorm? Not sure what we could suggest but a second set of eyes couldn't hurt.
I think you would be fine on the stock exhaust temporarily. These bikes are so held back from the factory any tune would make them run better. I wouldn't connect the exup valve and I'd might seek out a link pipe rather than put the stock exhaust chamber back on as a temporary solution.
I guess if it's close for riding season to be done, maybe it's just better to wait rather than spend more time or money on it.
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Post by mt10orc on Oct 24, 2023 22:46:53 GMT -7
Pics and or vid would be good to see RedAndBlack nailed the response.
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Post by gtayl09 on Oct 26, 2023 14:59:49 GMT -7
ok, update 33 and 1/3, the final update. Took the pipe to a custom exhaust shop in town, he said it had the wrong size clamp on the muffler to midpipe- but said it would be fine. I followed his directions, bolted everything up and did several 30 minute rides, and the heat cycles expanded the pipes to the point where it is tight/solid like it should be. I still will find the right size clamp for the muffler, but it sounds and looks awesome.
Also, I found out that simply starting/stopping the bike multiple times did clear all of the engine codes, giving me full access to everything. No need to waste money on bluetooth devices for clearing it. My question for anyone that has information, I opted to not have the pops/bangs with the tune from Moore Mafia, but omg this thing pops and bangs non stop. I dont think its in the tune though, isnt there a mod that will stop the noise? Some pops are ok, but this is a bit much... Other question, if that mod does exist, would it require a retune? Any information is greatly appreciated.
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Post by kyle on Oct 26, 2023 18:38:04 GMT -7
ok, update 33 and 1/3, the final update. Took the pipe to a custom exhaust shop in town, he said it had the wrong size clamp on the muffler to midpipe- but said it would be fine. I followed his directions, bolted everything up and did several 30 minute rides, and the heat cycles expanded the pipes to the point where it is tight/solid like it should be. I still will find the right size clamp for the muffler, but it sounds and looks awesome. Also, I found out that simply starting/stopping the bike multiple times did clear all of the engine codes, giving me full access to everything. No need to waste money on bluetooth devices for clearing it. My question for anyone that has information, I opted to not have the pops/bangs with the tune from Moore Mafia, but omg this thing pops and bangs non stop. I dont think its in the tune though, isnt there a mod that will stop the noise? Some pops are ok, but this is a bit much... Other question, if that mod does exist, would it require a retune? Any information is greatly appreciated. Sorry to reply with something unrelated - But just to also mention - my bike also got a check engine light and I found that starting/stopping around ~10ish times, the check engine light went away eventually. (although it's still currently in the shop as the light came back) |
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Post by mt10orc on Oct 26, 2023 22:33:28 GMT -7
ok, update 33 and 1/3, the final update. Took the pipe to a custom exhaust shop in town, he said it had the wrong size clamp on the muffler to midpipe- but said it would be fine. I followed his directions, bolted everything up and did several 30 minute rides, and the heat cycles expanded the pipes to the point where it is tight/solid like it should be. I still will find the right size clamp for the muffler, but it sounds and looks awesome. Also, I found out that simply starting/stopping the bike multiple times did clear all of the engine codes, giving me full access to everything. No need to waste money on bluetooth devices for clearing it. My question for anyone that has information, I opted to not have the pops/bangs with the tune from Moore Mafia, but omg this thing pops and bangs non stop. I dont think it’s in the tune though, isnt there a mod that will stop the noise? Some pops are ok, but this is a bit much... Other question, if that mod does exist, would it require a retune? Any information is greatly appreciated. Pretty sure you need to block off the AIS to get rid of the backfires as the AIS is in an open state default. You won’t need a reflash. |
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Post by mt10orc on Oct 26, 2023 22:40:06 GMT -7
ok, update 33 and 1/3, the final update. Took the pipe to a custom exhaust shop in town, he said it had the wrong size clamp on the muffler to midpipe- but said it would be fine. I followed his directions, bolted everything up and did several 30 minute rides, and the heat cycles expanded the pipes to the point where it is tight/solid like it should be. I still will find the right size clamp for the muffler, but it sounds and looks awesome. Also, I found out that simply starting/stopping the bike multiple times did clear all of the engine codes, giving me full access to everything. No need to waste money on bluetooth devices for clearing it. My question for anyone that has information, I opted to not have the pops/bangs with the tune from Moore Mafia, but omg this thing pops and bangs non stop. I dont think its in the tune though, isnt there a mod that will stop the noise? Some pops are ok, but this is a bit much... Other question, if that mod does exist, would it require a retune? Any information is greatly appreciated. Sorry to reply with something unrelated - But just to also mention - my bike also got a check engine light and I found that starting/stopping around ~10ish times, the check engine light went away eventually. (although it's still currently in the shop as the light came back) Pretty sure that is common with new gen flash. Think all the tuners state that as well. Should only take 2-3 rides to clear. Not just starting it up and letting it idle. It needs to be put under load for a bit for all the system checks to do their thing and clear themselves. |
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Post by willl84 on Oct 27, 2023 4:02:18 GMT -7
ok, update 33 and 1/3, the final update. Took the pipe to a custom exhaust shop in town, he said it had the wrong size clamp on the muffler to midpipe- but said it would be fine. I followed his directions, bolted everything up and did several 30 minute rides, and the heat cycles expanded the pipes to the point where it is tight/solid like it should be. I still will find the right size clamp for the muffler, but it sounds and looks awesome. Also, I found out that simply starting/stopping the bike multiple times did clear all of the engine codes, giving me full access to everything. No need to waste money on bluetooth devices for clearing it. My question for anyone that has information, I opted to not have the pops/bangs with the tune from Moore Mafia, but omg this thing pops and bangs non stop. I dont think its in the tune though, isnt there a mod that will stop the noise? Some pops are ok, but this is a bit much... Other question, if that mod does exist, would it require a retune? Any information is greatly appreciated. The tune is supposed to disable the AIS AFAIK. It does with 2WDW at least. MM is a joke and his videos make him look like a clown honestly. I'll never trust a guy who shuts the bike off with the rear wheel still spinning at 100MPH with no oil flow to the transmission |
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Post by mt10orc on Oct 27, 2023 11:57:36 GMT -7
Think the new gen bike AIS is default open now when disabled, Pretty sure I read that somewhere. I know my 2020 the AIS default is closed so when the flash is done it disables but the system is closed, not allowing air to pass.
Think 1st gen bikes needed block off plates or heard that a marble worked. Think they were default open as well when disabled by flash.
I’m an old fucker so who know if my memory is correct. Sorry you will have to do ur due diligence to make sure what I'm saying correct.
Just know that the backfires after tune are due to AIS being open in most cases. It could also be that the tune isn’t right as well.
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