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Post by 0002s on Dec 9, 2016 18:26:35 GMT -7
I wanted a Fender Eliminator Kit that looked OEM, was SOLID (all steel and plate coated **no powder coating marks**), had a plate light, and retained the key cover for the seat lock. Yoshimura has all of this so I thought I'd give it a try. The installation on this is not hard if you have basic metric allen sockets, sockets and wrenches. You will need to remove the original fender frame and cut the wires to the turn signals and plate light. If cutting wires, re-wiring, and burying the old wires to look OEM scares you then do not attempt this. It took me around 2 hours to install. If I did this again I would cut the time in half. The instructions are barely understandable and the pictures are only for assembly of the kit and shows nothing about how to mount it and bury the wires. The part that took the longest for me was getting the OEM turn signal mounts out of the OEM tail assembly. (Hint they just pop out and put them in small end first with needle nose pliers applying pressure). So here are two factory pictures and two pictures of my bike with the kit installed. It looks like it should come from Yamaha this way. There are no wires showing. The wires are buried in the frame just like the factory unit. I used the cut factory wire covers that I took off an electrical tape to give it a factory look. The key lock cover is 100% functional. (although it does require a little trimming on the base plate to fit level). I would recommend this kit for anyone who wants a eliminator kit that look OEM and is SOLID. The LED tail light is beautiful and better than the factory. $116.95 www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/yoshimura-fender-eliminator-kit-yamaha-fz-10-2017    |
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Post by evitzee on Dec 29, 2016 12:59:29 GMT -7
I'm not sure why you cut the turn signal wires, you can unplug the turn signal wires under the seat and remove the OEM fender/bracket unit and then reinstall on the Yoshimura unit, then just replug the turn signal wires back in. Obviously with the new plate light it does require a cut, but the turn signals do not. Anyway, it looks good.
For reference there is a great YouTube video on the Vagabond site that shows in detail how to completely access and remove the OEM unit. Here is the link:
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Post by virginian on Oct 25, 2017 9:43:59 GMT -7
I wanted a Fender Eliminator Kit that looked OEM, was SOLID (all steel and plate coated **no powder coating marks**), had a plate light, and retained the key cover for the seat lock. Yoshimura has all of this so I thought I'd give it a try. The installation on this is not hard if you have basic metric allen sockets, sockets and wrenches. You will need to remove the original fender frame and cut the wires to the turn signals and plate light. If cutting wires, re-wiring, and burying the old wires to look OEM scares you then do not attempt this. It took me around 2 hours to install. If I did this again I would cut the time in half. The instructions are barely understandable and the pictures are only for assembly of the kit and shows nothing about how to mount it and bury the wires. The part that took the longest for me was getting the OEM turn signal mounts out of the OEM tail assembly. (Hint they just pop out and put them in small end first with needle nose pliers applying pressure). So here are two factory pictures and two pictures of my bike with the kit installed. It looks like it should come from Yamaha this way. There are no wires showing. The wires are buried in the frame just like the factory unit. I used the cut factory wire covers that I took off an electrical tape to give it a factory look. The key lock cover is 100% functional. (although it does require a little trimming on the base plate to fit level). I would recommend this kit for anyone who wants a eliminator kit that look OEM and is SOLID. The LED tail light is beautiful and better than the factory. $116.95 www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/yoshimura-fender-eliminator-kit-yamaha-fz-10-2017I just ordered this kit and will be installing today. Thanks for the write-up. |
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Post by wonger on Oct 26, 2017 11:32:35 GMT -7
I also installed this kit and can recommend it. You do not have to cut the turn signal wires as they can be removed and re-routed per the instructions. I just moved them further up the side toward the battery since you are gaining a few inches because the plate is closer to the tail, and they tucked in nicely. I also did not have to trim the key cover as it popped in correctly after a little bit of wiggling; it sits flush and is 100% functional.
I do recommend leaving yourself AT LEAST 6" of the taillight wires from the connector before you cut it off. I did it a tad short, and it fit perfectly, but more length would be preferable. There is enough room to tuck the wires in behind the plastic holder for the latch, along the side where the original wires were routed. It's a quality piece although I wish the plate bracket fit within the plate frame, as it the frame hits the bracket as-is. You don't have to tighten the nuts too tightly as nylocks are supplied. If you over-tighten them, you can suck in and bend the frame a bit. It's really a non-issue though, and am very pleased with the kit.
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Post by papawheelie on Oct 26, 2017 12:09:28 GMT -7
I do recommend leaving yourself AT LEAST 6" of the taillight wires from the connector before you cut it off. To clarify, you’re referring to the license plate light, correct, wonger? That should be the only wire that actually needs to be cut and spliced back together. Turn signals are plug-and-play. And the actual "taillight" wiring doesn’t get touched at all. |
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Post by papawheelie on Oct 26, 2017 12:12:29 GMT -7
Just installed the Yoshimura fender eliminator, myself. I was hoping the plate would have been tucked up a tiny bit (1/2 inch) closer to the fender, but it’s all good. Hardest part was separating the turn signal fittings from the stock fender and reinserting them to the new bracket. They basically just pull out. YouTube helps.
Decent kit.
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Post by wonger on Oct 27, 2017 6:55:11 GMT -7
I do recommend leaving yourself AT LEAST 6" of the taillight wires from the connector before you cut it off. To clarify, you’re referring to the license plate light, correct, wonger? That should be the only wire that actually needs to be cut and spliced back together. Turn signals are plug-and-play. And the actual "taillight" wiring doesn’t get touched at all. Correct, only the license plate light will need to be cut in order to re-use the connector. You won't cut any wiring still in the bike, only the connector off the original license plate light. Just make sure it is at least 6" from the end of the connector. |
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Post by evitzee on Oct 27, 2017 10:20:54 GMT -7
Although Yoshimura provides one of those crimp connectors to reconnect the plate light I would recommend using a Posi-Lock connector, much easier to do and much more reliable due to the screwed connection.
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Post by virginian on Oct 27, 2017 17:04:38 GMT -7
I'm still waiting for part of this from Revzilla to ship from Vegas. It should be here Monday.
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Post by morbo on Mar 8, 2018 10:08:08 GMT -7
Reviving an older thread... I was planning on the Vagabond FE, but considerations for adding SW-Motech Blaze bags down the road have caused me to rethink my strategy. I'm looking at the Yoshimura FE, mainly for the removable signal brackets for if (when) I decide to go to an integrated taillight and get the Blaze bags. I like the cleaner look of not having these obvious holes on the FE where turn signals used to be. I noticed the product details for the Yoshimura FE on Revzilla mention optional turn signal brackets (for an extra $20). Are those brackets required for mounting the OEM signals? I noticed in this other post they bought the universal brackets as well but don't see where they were actually used. Also, instead of cutting/splicing the 2-pin connector off the OEM plate light, I was thinking of just buying another connector and wiring it to the FE's light wiring. Anyone have any idea what type of connector it is? I just like the idea of true plug 'n play. Thanks for the help! |
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Post by clayton on Mar 8, 2018 11:54:49 GMT -7
Check out TST industries fender eliminator. It’s has the optional signal light bracket. I just recieved mine in the mail. Don’t have my bike yet so have not installed it. It’s $25 for the license plate bracket. It’s like $14 extra for the signal bracket which I did not order since I m going with the motodynamics intergrated tail/signal/brake light. tstindustries.com/Yamaha-FZ-10-MT-10-2016-/ |
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Post by evitzee on Mar 8, 2018 12:01:11 GMT -7
Morbo, you don't need the optional brackets if you use the OEM signals. I'm not sure if I understand your comment about the removable signal brackets, the brackets that come with the kit (and which hold the OEM signal stalks and contain the large oval hole for them) are integral with the design and are needed to hold everything together. You can download a pdf of the instructions on Revzilla to clarify how it operates. If you decide to go with an integrated taillight you'll have the oval holes exposed on the bracket, so it may not work for you. Not sure what kind of plug you'll need if you want to wire one to the FE's LED light, you can easily unplug the stock one and see what replacement you'll need, I don't know if it is a standard style plug or something unique. Unless you really want to keep the stock license plate light intact for possible future use it is just easier to snip the wire and use the existing plug and splice it to the new FE's light.
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Post by morbo on Mar 8, 2018 13:14:29 GMT -7
Morbo, you don't need the optional brackets if you use the OEM signals. I'm not sure if I understand your comment about the removable signal brackets, the brackets that come with the kit (and which hold the OEM signal stalks and contain the large oval hole for them) are integral with the design and are needed to hold everything together. You can download a pdf of the instructions on Revzilla to clarify how it operates. If you decide to go with an integrated taillight you'll have the oval holes exposed on the bracket, so it may not work for you. Not sure what kind of plug you'll need if you want to wire one to the FE's LED light, you can easily unplug the stock one and see what replacement you'll need, I don't know if it is a standard style plug or something unique. Unless you really want to keep the stock license plate light intact for possible future use it is just easier to snip the wire and use the existing plug and splice it to the new FE's light. Thanks evitzee! I looked at the assembly PDF and I'm not gathering how the turn signal brackets are required. I grabbed a screenshot from the instructions. It looks like the plate itself bolts onto the plate bracket (part #2), and the plate bracket bolts to the FE bracket (part #1). It looks like the license plate is required in utilizing those signal brackets (part #s 5,6). If you're not installing any turn signals then you wouldn't need the signal brackets and you would just use 2 bolts (part #10) to hold the plate onto the plate bracket. I was planning on looking at the plug for the plate light but was hoping someone had a part # they could share. I'm fine with snipping the wire and soldering it to the new FE's wiring, if it's a few bucks for the connector which will save me time down the road if I want to put it back to stock then it's worth it. Plus it would make it easier to sell as a "plug 'n play" if I opted to get rid of the Yoshi FE and had the proper connector wired on already.  |
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Post by heathhudnall on Mar 8, 2018 13:39:06 GMT -7
morbo, I don't use the frame or signal brackets on my Yoshimura FE. Works great. 
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Post by heathhudnall on Mar 8, 2018 13:46:09 GMT -7
I have the Motodynamic integrated tail, so no need for them. I do have them though.   |
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Post by morbo on Mar 8, 2018 14:23:55 GMT -7
Thanks! Think I'll spring for the Yoshi FE over Vagabond when the time comes.
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Post by clayton on Mar 8, 2018 14:42:50 GMT -7
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Post by evitzee on Mar 8, 2018 15:16:59 GMT -7
I guess you can use the Yoshimura without the side pieces and plate frame, but if you are going to go that route there are a lot cheaper options than the $117 Yosh price. Why pay for the extra pieces you don't need, just get a cheaper unit that eliminates the OEM turn signals as part of its design.
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Post by morbo on Mar 8, 2018 15:42:51 GMT -7
I want to get a FE soon but don't plan on getting luggage for several months or possibly even next year. I don't care to get the IT until I'm ready to get the luggage. I appreciate the versatility of being able to remove the signal brackets at a later time. I also really don't recall being overly impressed with the quality of the limited options out there for FEs with removable signal brackets. I don't like the stick-on light you have to tack onto the TST. I also like how the Yoshi positions the license plate versus the TST and Vagabond. I was originally going to get the Vagabond as a compromise of price/quality/aesthetics. I'll probably look again before ordering but I think the Yoshi is probably the one I'll be going with.
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Post by clayton on Mar 8, 2018 15:57:49 GMT -7
I want to get a FE soon but don't plan on getting luggage for several months or possibly even next year. I don't care to get the IT until I'm ready to get the luggage. I appreciate the versatility of being able to remove the signal brackets at a later time. I also really don't recall being overly impressed with the quality of the limited options out there for FEs with removable signal brackets. I don't like the stick-on light you have to tack onto the TST. I also like how the Yoshi positions the license plate versus the TST and Vagabond. I was originally going to get the Vagabond as a compromise of price/quality/aesthetics. I'll probably look again before ordering but I think the Yoshi is probably the one I'll be going with. If you watch the install vid on the TST they don’t stick it on with the tape. They leave the sticky part covered with the red sheeting. It just goes between the plate and bracket and it’s held in pace when you tighten plate to the bracket. |
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