ash919
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Post by ash919 on Nov 6, 2022 11:59:47 GMT -7
Hey guys,
I have a 2019 that has just over 600 miles on it. Great bike, showroom condition, new oil (not over filled).
The shifting seemed really smooth until recently.
Now when I shift, it feels reluctant to smoothly go into the next gear (whether I’m upshifting or downshifting).
It seems to be worse, the lower the rpm, but still sometimes noticeable at a midrange rpm. Also more noticeable in gear 1-4. 5-6 it feels normal.
It’s like there’s two “clicks” in between each gear and the second click is it trying to get into the next gear.
Do you guys have two clicks when changing gears? Like one click getting out of current gear and one getting into next gear? Doesn’t feel right but I’m not sure what to adjust from here to test what’s going on.
Thanks
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Post by semprenissart on Nov 6, 2022 21:41:55 GMT -7
Maybe check your clutch cable to make sure it’s properly adjusted?
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Post by parthz8 on Nov 7, 2022 10:49:41 GMT -7
On my 2021 MT-10s, both of them upshift with quickshifter is hard/jerky from 1-3, after that its smooth. I learned to live with it since seems normal. But not two clicks.
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Post by zorch on Nov 7, 2022 10:53:49 GMT -7
Too much freeplay in the clutch lever? Make sure the clutch can disengage ALL the way, if there's even a little bit of catching it can make shifts go all wonky.
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ash919
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Post by ash919 on Nov 8, 2022 20:24:58 GMT -7
Maybe check your clutch cable to make sure it’s properly adjusted? Will do. Maybe the slack is set too high. Thanks!
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Post by ash919 on Nov 8, 2022 20:25:40 GMT -7
Too much freeplay in the clutch lever? Make sure the clutch can disengage ALL the way, if there's even a little bit of catching it can make shifts go all wonky. Yeah the two clicks thing is odd. I think maybe it’s not disengaging all the way. I’ll check out the clutch cable slack and whatnot. Thanks
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Post by ash919 on Nov 8, 2022 20:27:02 GMT -7
Maybe check your clutch cable to make sure it’s properly adjusted? Will do. Maybe the slack is set too high. Thanks! I’ll definitely check tomorrow morning. That might be it. Also my clutch cable line feels super tight when I turn the handle bars to the left. Maybe it’s caught on something down in the engine are. So tight I can’t even adjust my clutch lever downwards enough to fit my hand. I’ll look into that forsure. Thanks
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Post by ash919 on Nov 9, 2022 17:22:18 GMT -7
Will do. Maybe the slack is set too high. Thanks! I’ll definitely check tomorrow morning. That might be it. Also my clutch cable line feels super tight when I turn the handle bars to the left. Maybe it’s caught on something down in the engine are. So tight I can’t even adjust my clutch lever downwards enough to fit my hand. I’ll look into that forsure. Thanks I followed the recommend 5-10mm of free play. Same thing, so I don’t know. I’m worried I’m damaging it tbh. Maybe I’m shifting too slow? Or too low of rpm? Doesn’t make sense though, should still shift smoothly. If you’d be willing, next time you ride would you be able to shift slowly and see if it does anything like that? I’m kind of at a loss. Hopefully it’s not a transmission issue cause this bike has 600 miles on it.
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Post by ash919 on Nov 9, 2022 17:23:31 GMT -7
Maybe check your clutch cable to make sure it’s properly adjusted? Made sure it was at 8mm of free play and it feels the same tbh. Is yours a smooth upshift even if it’s super slow? Maybe I’m shifting too slow?? Doesn’t seem like that’s be the issue though cause at a normal shifting pace I feel it click twice
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Post by maxxj on Nov 12, 2022 3:26:01 GMT -7
Check the clamp on the shift rod to make sure it's aligned right? When I test rode one before I bought mine, the shifting was extremely stiff. I never looked it over to see what the problem was with it but the previous owner did a bunch of stupid stuff to that bike so it's possible they messed with the shift linkage. There should be a line etched or drawn on the face of the rod to show you how the clamp goes on. If it's wrong then maybe you don't have enough leverage on it when you shift?
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Post by semprenissart on Nov 14, 2022 14:11:29 GMT -7
Maybe check your clutch cable to make sure it’s properly adjusted? Made sure it was at 8mm of free play and it feels the same tbh. Is yours a smooth upshift even if it’s super slow? Maybe I’m shifting too slow?? Doesn’t seem like that’s be the issue though cause at a normal shifting pace I feel it click twice mine is the same if I shift slowly or fast
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Post by RedAndBlack on Nov 14, 2022 16:21:01 GMT -7
Adjust your shift linkage. This is pretty common on our bikes, and has happened to me. There seems to be certain settings on the shift linkage rod that make the shifting much, much harder. Play around with the adjustment screws to loosen or tighten each until it starts to shift normally again.
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Post by weehe on Nov 16, 2022 7:44:53 GMT -7
Maybe check your clutch cable to make sure it’s properly adjusted? Made sure it was at 8mm of free play and it feels the same tbh. Is yours a smooth upshift even if it’s super slow? Maybe I’m shifting too slow?? Doesn’t seem like that’s be the issue though cause at a normal shifting pace I feel it click twice You asked in a different thread, but just gently pull the clutch cable up from between the bars. The cable will slide down on the right side into the frame/plastic. It can slide down so far that it binds on left turns. It will be obvious how much extra slack you can get once you start pulling. Once you have enough slack, zip tie it to anything you see fit to keep it from sliding down again.
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Post by ash919 on Nov 17, 2022 17:45:21 GMT -7
Made sure it was at 8mm of free play and it feels the same tbh. Is yours a smooth upshift even if it’s super slow? Maybe I’m shifting too slow?? Doesn’t seem like that’s be the issue though cause at a normal shifting pace I feel it click twice You asked in a different thread, but just gently pull the clutch cable up from between the bars. The cable will slide down on the right side into the frame/plastic. It can slide down so far that it binds on left turns. It will be obvious how much extra slack you can get once you start pulling. Once you have enough slack, zip tie it to anything you see fit to keep it from sliding down again. Thanks for the reply. I have to hold the top side and the bottom side and really pull it to get it to move. It’s pretty tight in there so I hope I’m not raking it across something. Worried about shredding the clutch cable. I’ll go ahead and zip tie it in place, thank you! Also, now that I’ve pulled it up to give slack, the cable sheath on the bottom side is resting on some engine components that get very hot. Is this okay? Should I pull it up more so they don’t rest in these metal pipes? Thanks
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Post by ash919 on Nov 17, 2022 17:49:33 GMT -7
Adjust your shift linkage. This is pretty common on our bikes, and has happened to me. There seems to be certain settings on the shift linkage rod that make the shifting much, much harder. Play around with the adjustment screws to loosen or tighten each until it starts to shift normally again. Thanks for the reply. You’re saying loosen the shift linkage lock nuts and follow the same procedure to change the shift lever position until it feels normal again? I tried this up and down and I couldn’t feel a difference. Is there something I’m missing?
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Post by ash919 on Nov 17, 2022 17:51:20 GMT -7
Check the clamp on the shift rod to make sure it's aligned right? When I test rode one before I bought mine, the shifting was extremely stiff. I never looked it over to see what the problem was with it but the previous owner did a bunch of stupid stuff to that bike so it's possible they messed with the shift linkage. There should be a line etched or drawn on the face of the rod to show you how the clamp goes on. If it's wrong then maybe you don't have enough leverage on it when you shift? Thanks for the tip. I’ll check my service manual to make sure it’s in the right orientation. What’s odd is this hasn’t changed at all since I got the bike and it only just started feeling like harder shifting. I’ll go ahead and check and report back! Thanks
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Post by poe on May 11, 2023 0:00:47 GMT -7
Hey guys, I have a 2019 that has just over 600 miles on it. Great bike, showroom condition, new oil (not over filled). The shifting seemed really smooth until recently. Now when I shift, it feels reluctant to smoothly go into the next gear (whether I’m upshifting or downshifting). It seems to be worse, the lower the rpm, but still sometimes noticeable at a midrange rpm. Also more noticeable in gear 1-4. 5-6 it feels normal. It’s like there’s two “clicks” in between each gear and the second click is it trying to get into the next gear. Do you guys have two clicks when changing gears? Like one click getting out of current gear and one getting into next gear? Doesn’t feel right but I’m not sure what to adjust from here to test what’s going on. Thanks Hey there! Did you find a solution or something from the factory? Did you kind of feel like the tranny got tighter, expanding due to heat? I bought a 22 model last August and have 2200km on it. She's had her first service and she was doing really well until now. I really felt that transition between gears, (all gears), got alot harder yesterday. It feels like its too tight. The 2. gen. came with QS from factory. It might be the clutch, but I have correct play in the wire. I am concerned like you, because it feels so bad to use so much force to make a change. It 'was' smooth when it's cold, but I have yet to see if it still is, or if something has happened.
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Post by mt10orc on May 11, 2023 16:09:55 GMT -7
Member hasn’t been on since December maybe they get notifications.
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Post by jmurphy216 on Dec 23, 2023 8:09:49 GMT -7
I have a 2020 US model, approaching 9k miles, and this past riding season i would intermittenly experience the QS failing to function. If i would clutch it would shift no problem but using the QS function, it would fail to cut the ignition to unload the transmission and allow the shift. I have yet to put a meter on anything but i adjusted clutch freeplay in both directions with no change. I'm hoping i can resolve this while the bike is away for the winter season so it is resolved for the next riding season. Has anyone seen the shift sensor fail on these bikes? Likely unrelated but the symtom did not occur until something after i had the brake switch recall completed.
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Post by willl84 on Dec 26, 2023 6:02:15 GMT -7
I have a 2020 US model, approaching 9k miles, and this past riding season i would intermittenly experience the QS failing to function. If i would clutch it would shift no problem but using the QS function, it would fail to cut the ignition to unload the transmission and allow the shift. I have yet to put a meter on anything but i adjusted clutch freeplay in both directions with no change. I'm hoping i can resolve this while the bike is away for the winter season so it is resolved for the next riding season. Has anyone seen the shift sensor fail on these bikes? Likely unrelated but the symtom did not occur until something after i had the brake switch recall completed. I has a Translogic sensor fail but the stock never failed on me. I've got an FTECU sensor kit with blipper function for sale if you're interested. You'll need a $100 license card and get the ECU flashed to activate it though
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