ash919
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Post by ash919 on Oct 30, 2022 14:38:16 GMT -7
Hey guys!
Just joined the forum and glad to be here.
So I’ve had my 19 Mt10 for a couple months and I LOVE it.
The only thing I don’t love is the abrupt on/ off snatchy throttle.
I bought it with a M4 (3-4ths) exhaust system but it hadn’t been tuned. From everything I read, an ecu flash/ tune from 2WDW would fix that.
I went ahead and sent them my ecu and they did the flash.
The bike feels almost the same if I’m honest with the whole throttle situation.
Am I missing something?
Have any of you had experience with this on/ off throttle or any experience with it being the same after a flash?
Any help is appreciated!
Thanks
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Post by mt10orc on Oct 30, 2022 15:44:05 GMT -7
Welcome aboard.
I had my bike flashed and felt that the throttle response was more direct in timing response and not delayed. The other thing I noticed was the engine braking was reduced about 10-20%. The torque/power was more balanced depending on throttle position as well. Lastly, the reduced weight and additional HP have turned the bike into a rocket ship not quite as badass as the R1, but even keel until u get up to about 8-9k. The R1 is f’n untouchable above 9k, just f’n nuts.
My advice is to play with the modes to get the response you are looking for, mode 2 is my mainstay and what feels best for me. When I first got it flashed I was in mode 3 for a few weeks. Mode 1 is just too much in my book.
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Post by superspirit on Oct 31, 2022 6:32:43 GMT -7
Throttle tamer, used them on both the wife's 09 and my 10. Can't beat them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2022 6:51:06 GMT -7
Your best bet is to put the bike in a less aggressive mode. I'm taking it that you did not request to turn off the fuel decel cut?
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Post by willl84 on Oct 31, 2022 10:42:04 GMT -7
I noticed a difference in the on/off abruptness after my flash. I can also second the reduced engine braking although I almost feel like it could be reduced more, I still don't use the brakes much for normal commuting.
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ash919
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Post by ash919 on Oct 31, 2022 16:56:49 GMT -7
Welcome aboard. I had my bike flashed and felt that the throttle response was more direct in timing response and not delayed. The other thing I noticed was the engine braking was reduced about 10-20%. The torque/power was more balanced depending on throttle position as well. Lastly, the reduced weight and additional HP have turned the bike into a rocket ship not quite as badass as the R1, but even keel until u get up to about 8-9k. The R1 is f’n untouchable above 9k, just f’n nuts. My advice is to play with the modes to get the response you are looking for, mode 2 is my mainstay and what feels best for me. When I first got it flashed I was in mode 3 for a few weeks. Mode 1 is just too much in my book. Yeah I’ve tried mode 2 and 3 but been in mode 3 for a couple weeks now. Feels good other than the snatchyness but it’s not horrendous. I’ve definitely gotten better with it and seems I just have to roll off incredibly slow to help with it. I’ll keep getting used to it and see how I feel in a month or two. Thanks!
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Post by ash919 on Oct 31, 2022 16:58:19 GMT -7
Your best bet is to put the bike in a less aggressive mode. I'm taking it that you did not request to turn off the fuel decel cut? Do you recommend a specific one? If I recall correctly, I saw the G2 and Motion pro are the two main ones people get.
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Post by ash919 on Oct 31, 2022 16:59:44 GMT -7
Your best bet is to put the bike in a less aggressive mode. I'm taking it that you did not request to turn off the fuel decel cut? Yeah I’ve been riding around in mode 3, feel it a decent amount even then. I thought the removal of the fuel developed cut was something they did with the 2WDW tune but sounds like maybe that’s a specific request I need to ask them? Thanks for the info
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Post by ash919 on Oct 31, 2022 17:38:59 GMT -7
I noticed a difference in the on/off abruptness after my flash. I can also second the reduced engine braking although I almost feel like it could be reduced more, I still don't use the brakes much for normal commuting. Do you still have a decent amount of the abruptness? Not that’s it’s all bad but I’m just curious if maybe mine didn’t have the fuel decal cut taken away like one of the other members was asking about. That being said, if they didn’t take that away, I should be able to ship it back to them and they could make that change for me. Maybe that’s what I’m feeling. Thank you!
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Post by mt10orc on Oct 31, 2022 21:10:14 GMT -7
I believe the decel cut fix is part of the standard flash, but I could be wrong. I like Will don’t need to brake too much when riding mellow. There still is a good amount of engine braking but not as severe stock in my opinion. Remember there is a lot of compression in the cylinders and it is normal for engine braking even with idling fuel injecting into intake after the flash as that is the fix done by the flash.
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Post by willl84 on Nov 1, 2022 7:17:47 GMT -7
I noticed a difference in the on/off abruptness after my flash. I can also second the reduced engine braking although I almost feel like it could be reduced more, I still don't use the brakes much for normal commuting. Do you still have a decent amount of the abruptness? Not that’s it’s all bad but I’m just curious if maybe mine didn’t have the fuel decal cut taken away like one of the other members was asking about. That being said, if they didn’t take that away, I should be able to ship it back to them and they could make that change for me. Maybe that’s what I’m feeling. Thank you! I ride in mode 1 all the time normally and don't notice any abruptness like there was pre-flash. I believe the decel cut fix is part of the standard flash, but I could be wrong. I like Will don’t need to brake too much when riding mellow. There still is a good amount of engine braking but not as severe stock in my opinion. Remember there is a lot of compression in the cylinders and it is normal for engine braking even with idling fuel injecting into intake after the flash as that is the fix done by the flash. It should all be part of the standard flash, at least with 2WDW it is. They smooth the throttle response, disable the AIS and O2 sensors, lower the fan temps, etc.
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Post by ash919 on Nov 6, 2022 11:49:41 GMT -7
I believe the decel cut fix is part of the standard flash, but I could be wrong. I like Will don’t need to brake too much when riding mellow. There still is a good amount of engine braking but not as severe stock in my opinion. Remember there is a lot of compression in the cylinders and it is normal for engine braking even with idling fuel injecting into intake after the flash as that is the fix done by the flash. I think it is but I’ll call them and double check this week. Makes sense it would be. Right, there’s going to be some abruptness because of compression/ just how the engine functions. Also, it is a CP4 so it’s originally made for performance, not necessarily comfort/ smoothness. Part of it is just getting used to the bike. It really likes to be at least halfway up in the revs it seems.
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Post by mt10orc on Nov 6, 2022 19:08:10 GMT -7
It loves to be above 7k. It’s a freaking beast in the higher revs.
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