maxxj
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Post by maxxj on Jul 17, 2022 16:00:47 GMT -7
Has anybody found a decent set of levers that don't cost 120-150 each? I was told to be careful about what levers I get if I did change them because some of them don't cancel the cruise control. I'm fine with knockoffs from amazon, but not sure what to look at because I've seen a lot of complaints that they don't clear the switch housing.
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Post by mt1021 on Jul 18, 2022 1:31:57 GMT -7
Knock offs are fine if set up correctly. I have a set of ASV and MZS. MZS currently mounted. The trick is to set the brake/cruise control switch lever actuator travel (on the lever) correctly.
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Post by jlapaglia on Jul 18, 2022 5:23:38 GMT -7
On my last bike, FZ8, I had some Amazon levers. For this bike I chose to get the puig brand levers because I liked the black lever and red position adjustment dial (about $100 per side- and requires bike specific adapter and lever for each side). Overall I’m very happy with the quality, they don’t seem to have faded like my old Amazon ones did but I’m not sure the price difference justifies it. I compared the Amazon ones to the puig ones and just visually and feel wise, I’d say give the Amazon ones a shot if you like and just make sure they are installed well.
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Post by willl84 on Jul 18, 2022 6:16:22 GMT -7
I bought two different sets of cheap Amazon ones and they were both junk. Fit and finish was terrible. The levers were sloppy in the perches. I now have my ASV's and it's a night and day difference. When it comes to something that could potentially kill you do yourself a favor and don't cheap out.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2022 6:52:20 GMT -7
I bought a set of Driven levers of SBTG for $92/each. Love them, very high quality and perfect fitment.
I'm just not sold on going too cheap for two of the most important and primary controls on your bike.
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Post by maxxj on Jul 18, 2022 16:17:53 GMT -7
I was hoping to find something closer to $100-125 for a pair instead of 250+, or 400 for a set of Rizoma. We have an MT with some short ASV levers but they were an awkward length for me, they fit 3 fingers well but my pinky either sat on the ball at the end or if I didn't use it then the lever clamped down on it on the clutch side. There was another MT-09 with those adjustable amazon ones that slide out. They felt alright shape-wise but that bike was trashed and the levers had no resistance. I couldn't really feel how they were that way.
I'll find something eventually, and probably follow up on here for anybody else that has the same questions I do later on.
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Post by RedAndBlack on Jul 18, 2022 18:16:55 GMT -7
Cheap Chinese levers almost got me killed. There is no quality control, they are often machined wrong, and they use substandard metals and allows which are more prone to warping, deforming, and failing.
Even if a lot of them work fine for most people, the consequences of failure are significant as I almost learned.
Spend the money on legit levers. As long as you don't crash on them, you can often sell them when selling your bike and recover a good amount of cost.
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Post by maxxj on Jul 18, 2022 19:06:35 GMT -7
Maybe I'm just lucky and have a bunch of lucky friends then because I've never had an issue with the no name brands, neither have the other people that I know using them. They were just metal on a hinge pushing plungers and pulling a cable. I haven't looked past the surface on the ones on this bike, is there more to them? I'm also not used to having cruise control so I'm sure there's something going on there that I haven't realized. I'm in no rush to be swapping a bunch of parts out on this thing but there are a few things that stick out on it because of how the PO had it set up. The levers are gonna be one of the first things I change if I do change anything. On a positive note I got my ECU back today and the rest of my exhaust comes in tomorrow so I'll finally uncover the bike and get all that buttoned up and be able to ride it again.
I did more digging around on levers and to answer my own question from the original post, there is not much in between. There's really cheap $30 sets that sometimes might not clear the left controls, MZS works if you like short levers. $50-80 sets that claim mt10 compatible but reviews state otherwise. Then there's big brands that start right around $100 per side.
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Post by mt10orc on Jul 18, 2022 22:04:32 GMT -7
Maybe I'm just lucky and have a bunch of lucky friends then because I've never had an issue with the no name brands, neither have the other people that I know using them. They were just metal on a hinge pushing plungers and pulling a cable. I haven't looked past the surface on the ones on this bike, is there more to them? I'm also not used to having cruise control so I'm sure there's something going on there that I haven't realized. I'm in no rush to be swapping a bunch of parts out on this thing but there are a few things that stick out on it because of how the PO had it set up. The levers are gonna be one of the first things I change if I do change anything. On a positive note I got my ECU back today and the rest of my exhaust comes in tomorrow so I'll finally uncover the bike and get all that buttoned up and be able to ride it again. I did more digging around on levers and to answer my own question from the original post, there is not much in between. There's really cheap $30 sets that sometimes might not clear the left controls, MZS works if you like short levers. $50-80 sets that claim mt10 compatible but reviews state otherwise. Then there's big brands that start right around $100 per side. It’s your bike do what you will to it is my stance. I purchased CRG levers standard size. They cost a little over 200 bones. Perfect fit and finish and plug and play. My wife has shorty ASV levers on her R1 and they are awesome as well. It’s like going out on the town with your partner for a few nights. Worth it to me in my book.
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Post by maxxj on Jul 19, 2022 3:03:06 GMT -7
Cheap Chinese levers almost got me killed. Sorry I also meant to ask Where was the point of failure when that happened?
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Post by willl84 on Jul 19, 2022 6:24:48 GMT -7
I was hoping to find something closer to $100-125 for a pair instead of 250+, or 400 for a set of Rizoma. We have an MT with some short ASV levers but they were an awkward length for me, they fit 3 fingers well but my pinky either sat on the ball at the end or if I didn't use it then the lever clamped down on it on the clutch side. There was another MT-09 with those adjustable amazon ones that slide out. They felt alright shape-wise but that bike was trashed and the levers had no resistance. I couldn't really feel how they were that way. I'll find something eventually, and probably follow up on here for anybody else that has the same questions I do later on. I got the standard length ASV's for mine and my pinky barely fits lol
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Post by maxxj on Jul 19, 2022 7:06:27 GMT -7
Heck they might have been standard length. They didn't reach to the end of the grip so I figured they were shorties. Either way no bueno with the lever bite.
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Post by RedAndBlack on Jul 19, 2022 16:37:48 GMT -7
Cheap Chinese levers almost got me killed. Sorry I also meant to ask Where was the point of failure when that happened? The slot where the nipple from the master cylinder presses into the lever was machined wrong, causing the breaks to become slightly engaged. It wasn't noticeable at low speed but when I took it onto the highway for the first time, the increasing heat must've caused expansion and further increased braking pressure. I almost came to a full stop in the the middle of one of San Diego's busiest highways during rush hour as the brakes started to lock up. Was not a fun experience and my life was completely at the mercy of the people who somehow avoided me. Lesson learned. Not worth it.
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Post by maxxj on Sept 2, 2022 18:59:04 GMT -7
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Tried MZS levers. They felt ok in use. They're more blocky than stock levers but when I was out riding I didn't really notice the difference in feel. My main gripe was that the brake lever was too close to the grip on the farthest setting, closer than stock on the closest setting. I left them a review and got a message from the seller stating that they had changed the design of the adjuster after my review, to allow greater range of adjustment, and they offered to send a new set to me. I was browsing Cycle Gear and they had Puig levers in black, finally, so I got a set of them. Their 90 day return policy is awesome, so even if I ended up hating them I could just go back to stock without a problem. By the time I saw the message from MZS I had already returned them and installed the Puig.
Truthfully, I would trust the MZS levers. They seem pretty on top of buyer feedback so if there ever was a problem I think they would have it corrected pretty quickly. The clutch lever operation was pretty much the same as the stock lever, and not taking the distance problem into consideration the brake lever felt like whatever. Literally "same but different." $35 gets you aesthetics and a different feel if you're paying attention to them but when you're in the moment you won't even know.
These Puig levers however... $234.69 OTD for the non adjustable/non folding 3.0 levers and mounts. The adjustments for my hands(xl glove) are 3 on the clutch and 5 on the brake from the closest setting, would be 2 on the clutch but my mirrors collide and I want that little bit of extra dead zone with the clutch fully disengaged and the distance still feels right. They're extremely smooth in operation, the shape isn't bulky like the MZS, pretty close to the factory lever size but not quite as oval shaped as stock. It feels like the shape actually encourages use with the pads of my fingertips. They are definitely for quick operation with fingertips whereas I find stock levers more comfortable used somewhere on the inside of the first knuckle because the shape slides in and out of my hand much easier. If I didn't hate the raw aluminum levers on this particular bike and didn't have the spare cash to throw at it, I would absolutely not buy any of the reputable brand levers and just keep my stock ones on.
I put my wife's raven MT-07 levers on the 10 and the only difference was the little paddle that hits the sensor on the clutch lever wasn't as long and didn't actuate it completely. The brake lever was identical. I actually considered having my buddy weld some material on and file it flat so it would work. In my opinion the stock levers feel better than the Puig. Whatever kind of powder coat finish they put on the raven 07 levers would be perfect for my taste. I'm still considering buying a set to experiment with since they're like $15 per lever from Yamaha at my dealer, cheap as hell... I'm not that tore up about it though, I've got levers that work and they aren't aluminum colored.
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Post by natesnick on Sept 5, 2022 19:06:54 GMT -7
I know I am beating a dead horse but I looked and looked and eventually spent the money and got the ASV levers and they truly are the best. Great feel, great quality and adjustable.
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Post by rracerfz10 on Sept 21, 2022 5:50:53 GMT -7
I got the Puig bases and levers. I like that they are separate pieces so if I ever need to replace a lever due to a drop or something a replacement is only about $50. The initial investment though is steep, about $200
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2022 6:19:56 GMT -7
I bought Driven Halo levers for about $93 each. Very happy with them, huge upgrade over stock!
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Post by evitzee on Oct 19, 2022 19:37:16 GMT -7
I've had three sets of ASV levers and have always been happy with the performance. When I got the set for my 2017 FZ10 there was an issue with the clutch lever. Sent a note to ASV and they confirmed the design of the Yamaha levers were changed slightly by Yamaha and the tab for the lever had to redesigned. They sent me a new tab and that fixed the problem.
When you buy cheap, Chinese knockoff levers you are buying a product that is stealing the technology from someone else. ASV and other quality manufacturers do the engineering, tooling, manufacturing and selling of these levers, the Chinese just steal the technology and copy it. Why be part of that scam to save a few dollars? Save up and buy good quality products.
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Post by semprenissart on Oct 19, 2022 20:59:23 GMT -7
I've had three sets of ASV levers and have always been happy with the performance. When I got the set for my 2017 FZ10 there was an issue with the clutch lever. Sent a note to ASV and they confirmed the design of the Yamaha levers were changed slightly by Yamaha and the tab for the lever had to redesigned. They sent me a new tab and that fixed the problem. When you buy cheap, Chinese knockoff levers you are buying a product that is stealing the technology from someone else. ASV and other quality manufacturers do the engineering, tooling, manufacturing and selling of these levers, the Chinese just steal the technology and copy it. Why be part of that scam to save a few dollars? Save up and buy good quality products. I can confirm this. I bought ASV levers for my 22 MT10 and they look amazing but the cruise control did not activate as the new gen is slightly different. Called ASV right away and the customer support has been amazing. They expedited me a new tab (the one from the R7) but that still did not work. I was in contact with one of their design engineer via text message and eventually sent them pics of a quick fix I made with a piece of plastic and some tape (they didn't have the new mt10 at the time). They went with my design to make a new tab and eventually were able to get their hands on the new MT10 to confirm the new tab worked. As soon as they were able to 3D print one, they sent it to me and now it works perfectly. So I can definitely vouch for them, and can assure anyone who's interested in buying their levers that they are (now) fully compatible with the new gen. The levers themselves are incredible quality. I had CRG, which I loved as well, on my mt09 but ASV is on another level.
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Post by mt10orc on Oct 22, 2022 9:51:14 GMT -7
I've had three sets of ASV levers and have always been happy with the performance. When I got the set for my 2017 FZ10 there was an issue with the clutch lever. Sent a note to ASV and they confirmed the design of the Yamaha levers were changed slightly by Yamaha and the tab for the lever had to redesigned. They sent me a new tab and that fixed the problem. When you buy cheap, Chinese knockoff levers you are buying a product that is stealing the technology from someone else. ASV and other quality manufacturers do the engineering, tooling, manufacturing and selling of these levers, the Chinese just steal the technology and copy it. Why be part of that scam to save a few dollars? Save up and buy good quality products. I can confirm this. I bought ASV levers for my 22 MT10 and they look amazing but the cruise control did not activate as the new gen is slightly different. Called ASV right away and the customer support has been amazing. They expedited me a new tab (the one from the R7) but that still did not work. I was in contact with one of their design engineer via text message and eventually sent them pics of a quick fix I made with a piece of plastic and some tape (they didn't have the new mt10 at the time). They went with my design to make a new tab and eventually were able to get their hands on the new MT10 to confirm the new tab worked. As soon as they were able to 3D print one, they sent it to me and now it works perfectly. So I can definitely vouch for them, and can assure anyone who's interested in buying their levers that they are (now) fully compatible with the new gen. The levers themselves are incredible quality. I had CRG, which I loved as well, on my mt09 but ASV is on another level. Couldn’t say it any better. I have CRG levers.
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