2020blackmt10
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Post by 2020blackmt10 on Sept 10, 2021 9:17:18 GMT -7
Just got my 2020 black MT-10 and want to put crash protection on it. The OEM axle sliders look cool, but not sure I'm a fan of the frame sliders. Also, seems like no OEM covers for the engine? Has anyone used Puig? The engine spoilers look like they protect a lot, but might change the look of the bike too much. The engine protective covers look pretty good too. Unsure about the R19 frame sliders vs the pro frame sliders.
I really like the look of the graves frame sliders. The engine covers, not so much.
I also like the look of the sw-motech frame sliders, but not sure I like the engine case protector.
The woodcraft and shogun sliders look okay.
Any others I should consider? Any thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2021 11:30:31 GMT -7
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Post by 2020blackmt10 on Sept 10, 2021 13:18:53 GMT -7
Bending the sliders or the frame? They're supposed to bend, to protect the bike.
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Post by RedAndBlack on Sept 10, 2021 14:49:42 GMT -7
I'm a fan of GBRacing's stuff. Crash tested and true for me, have had their stuff on three different bikes and two of those I had three crashes on the track with including one highside. They all worked excellent. They make a teardrop low profile slider for the FZ10 that is perfect to prevent the potential problem with some sliders sticking out too much and causing the bike to flip if they catch something. They won't save your fairings on small drops or low speed stuff but they almost definitely won't cause your bike to flip nine times in a high speed crash.
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Post by RedAndBlack on Sept 10, 2021 14:55:33 GMT -7
Bending the sliders or the frame? They're supposed to bend, to protect the bike. True this! A frame slider that bends is a good frame slider (as long as it doesn't bend so much that the bolt warps the engine mount) A lot of brands have went to teardrop designs and much more lower profile designs to combat the problem with the barrel sliders digging in and causing the bike to flip. I presume these designs would also minimize bending as well. Front axle sliders are overrated and too expensive in my opinion. If you have a crash where the front fork has the potential to hit the ground, you're probably looking at replacing the front forks even with Axle sliders cause an impact like that is almost definitely going to bend your forks even with sliders. At least in my anecdotal experience, it is extremely rare for front axles to come that close to the ground in a pretty standard crash that wouldn't already total your bike. Maybe others have had different experiences and mine is just anecdotal and non-scientific, but I've yet to see the need for them. Rear axle sliders work very well though and definitely work to keep the subframe off of the ground. Definitely worth it. |
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Post by evitzee on Sept 11, 2021 12:17:12 GMT -7
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2021 8:14:41 GMT -7
Bending the sliders or the frame? They're supposed to bend, to protect the bike. True this! A frame slider that bends is a good frame slider ( as long as it doesn't bend so much that the bolt warps the engine mount) This was my experience with frame sliders; they were Shogun barrel sliders. Just a drop, not even a crash or slide, and the left side bent, warped, and even jacked the threading on my engine mount. (this was on a zx-10r) I've stopped trying to add tons of "crash" or "slide" protection and just focus on the minor drops and protecting from those. If you have the engine case guards on between those and your bar ends the bike is protected just fine from drops (I know because I've dropped my FZ twice now, doh!) |
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Post by willl84 on Sept 13, 2021 4:26:57 GMT -7
Bending the sliders or the frame? They're supposed to bend, to protect the bike. Wait what? That's news to me and I've been in the industry for 20 years. I've never heard that they're supposed to bend. They're supposed to SLIDE and protect things. When they bend they have a chance of wrecking the frame and/or engine and that makes them useless IMO |
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Post by RedAndBlack on Sept 14, 2021 13:49:38 GMT -7
Bending the sliders or the frame? They're supposed to bend, to protect the bike. Wait what? That's news to me and I've been in the industry for 20 years. I've never heard that they're supposed to bend. They're supposed to SLIDE and protect things. When they bend they have a chance of wrecking the frame and/or engine and that makes them useless IMO They need to be built to do both. They need to be sturdy enough to survive impact (a direct force) but they need to be engineered in a way that when they encounter a sheer force such as a curb or a rumble strip on the side of the track when they are sliding, they will bend vs digging in and causing the bike to flip and turning a low side hundred dollar crash repair into a totaled bike. Of course too much bend may deform the engine mounts. The more popular and expensive brands do the engineering and R and D into this. I think brands are getting away from traditional sliders that are longer and designed this way vs newer style which are shorter, tear drop shaped, and not really designed to bend since they don't stick out as much. This causes more of the fairings and engine covers to slide on the ground but reduces flipping and bending that might deform the frame or engine bolts. I think that's the style we are going to see more common going forward. |
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