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Post by sdshawn on Aug 20, 2021 6:06:04 GMT -7
I looked all over this forum for chain choices or what poeple are using with no luck. I have around 6k miles now and noticed an oring split on my chain. I probably over clean after 500 miles and lube it before every ride.
Plus the bike is putting out alot power to the wheel now so I want to know what recommendations poeple changed the oem chain with.
I'm going run original sprockets they look perfect see no reason to change them like I would normally plus that would create another decision process.
So as of now I'm looking to order the DID 525 ZVMX Xring gold also the tool to do the job. Has anyone had experience with this chain thanks for any info..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 6:22:50 GMT -7
I've always heard that if you get a new change its practically mandatory to get the sprockets as well due to wear patterns.
Anyways getting the sprockets does not add that much cost.
Here is a good chance to get a 520 chain too.
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Post by pfontainejr on Aug 20, 2021 8:09:27 GMT -7
I looked all over this forum for chain choices or what poeple are using with no luck. I have around 6k miles now and noticed an oring split on my chain. I probably over clean after 500 miles and lube it before every ride. Plus the bike is putting out alot power to the wheel now so I want to know what recommendations poeple changed the oem chain with. I'm going run original sprockets they look perfect see no reason to change them like I would normally plus that would create another decision process. So as of now I'm looking to order the DID 525 ZVMX Xring gold also the tool to do the job. Has anyone had experience with this chain thanks for any info.. I went with this setup.....https://2wheeldynoworks.com/products/520-superbike-chain-sprocket-conversion-kit?rq=mk_yamaha~md_fz-mt-10~yr_2020
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Post by mclovin on Aug 20, 2021 8:44:45 GMT -7
I just did a new chain. After checking out all of the options and prices, I went with the stock chain which I paid $95 on Partzilla. The original stock chain lasted almost 17,000 miles and wasn't in terrible shape. I guess 520 is supposed to be lighter but IMO, unless a pro caliber rider, you're not going to be able to tell the difference. Common sense tells me that 17000 miles at the least expensive price is the way to go.
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Post by weehe on Aug 20, 2021 19:16:02 GMT -7
That's the chain I got, so far so good. But I also got new sprockets as mentioned above. If I were to do it again I would go to a 520 and add 2 extra links. DID has a 520 chain rated for our power.
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Post by sdshawn on Aug 20, 2021 19:39:22 GMT -7
I'm for sure not going to do another stock chain like I said either I'm to much of a cleaner on the chain or I use bad lube . I'm pretty sure I use the best lube so I will go with a better chain all together and with the sprockets I have at 5700 miles on them..
I really have no need to go to the 520 set up for the reason above I only race myself and really just want longevity. This has to much power for me as it is but thank you . I would like to hear from the moderator, nit to call you out but I tend to agree with you a lot when it comes to this bike .
I'm not sure if I would change the ratio either I'm so used to grabbing wheelies when it does it now , it's just perfect for me I don't want anything else. My buddy just bought what I wanted before this bike and I'm sure we will swap but even still I will not change, he bought a Super duke .
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Post by RedAndBlack on Aug 23, 2021 11:51:18 GMT -7
I could be wrong so take my advice considering I'm not a mechanic or well versed in chains and sprockets, but I don't think a single failing O ring is a reason to change a chain at 6k miles. That link might start to kink up a bit but I doubt a single O ring is going to cause an unexpected failure, meaning you would probably start to see this link start to kink up before it reached the point of failure. It's probably something you could monitor and when you start seeing the chain start to kink, maybe consider changing. I'm sure a lot of us have broken O rings on our chains especially towards the end of their life and we don't even know it because we aren't as meticulous as you.
If you do change the chain, always recommended to change sprockets. Else, you'll deal with accelerated chain wear. And even if you get a chain to last 15k, your sprockets likely won't so you'll have to prematurely change sprockets which will probably have you changing chains again.
If it were me, I would just monitor. See if I can at least get the chain to 10k.
I could see overcleaning being an issue, especially if you use a brush that could be abrasive on the O rings. I've also heard people say WD-40 chews up O rings but have no personal experience with that. Consider what you're using to clean the chain as a possible culprit. I also would use mileage milestones as a guide. You could run the bike in a few rainstorms and the chain needs to be cleaned after 200 miles of riding, vs riding out in the dry desert air and don't need to be cleaned for 1000 miles. So if you think your overcleaning is an issue, just clean it when it's visibly collecting dirt. That's what I do. Use Belrays white spray (forget what its claled), and Maxima chain cleaner with that 3 sided blue brush. All my chains exceed their life expediencies.
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Post by evitzee on Aug 23, 2021 12:25:30 GMT -7
I clean about every 18 months but only ride in dry conditions, chain still fine at 14,000 miles. Lube about every 300 miles. Clean with kerosene and Grunge Brush. I don't overthink it. The less you fiddle with the chain, the better. Just keep it lubed.
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Post by sdshawn on Aug 24, 2021 6:02:29 GMT -7
Thank you for the input after much self schooling the last couple of days I did order a new chain. I did learn a lot about this subject between write ups and videos that my chain is now compromised with a broken oring also how I should care for it going forward.
After researching what little info I could find on the oem chain is that the manufacturer will put the bare minimum on the bike and send it out the door. The tensile strength I could not find for ten but from the part numbers DID 525 oem is that it barely makes the cut for a litre bikes.
I did go ahead and ordered the new DID 525 ZVM-X super street gold. It's good for bikes up to 1200cc 10400 lbs tensile strength and will use my original sprockets unless when I pull the cover on the counter it doesn't look up to spec. I will be taken more care as far as cleaning though when using the chain brush being less aggressive is the only thing from my searches I might have done wrong..
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Post by kamilspider on Nov 19, 2022 3:28:42 GMT -7
I want make 520 conversion with did zvmx chain and supersprox sprockets. Can anybody say exactly parts numbers or dimensions parts?
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Post by parthz8 on Nov 20, 2022 3:32:54 GMT -7
I want make 520 conversion with did zvmx chain and supersprox sprockets. Can anybody say exactly parts numbers or dimensions parts? There are kits available to replace your stock 530 or 525 pitch chain and sprockets. One such kit is available on 2wheeldynoworks.comIt included 520 XW-Ring chain, Vortex 520 (44) front/rear Sprocket. You can check specifications, match with D.I.D and order...
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Post by kamilspider on Nov 21, 2022 2:54:53 GMT -7
I talked with my local dealer. For 520 conversion we need: Supersprox CST-1579:16 Supersprox RST-486:43 or all steel (RFE) DID 520 zvmx 114 links
On my old 525 setup I did 22,5k km. Changed only 2 times front sprocket. Rear sprocket still looks nice but chain is streched over the limit. Is there anyone who rides here on 520 and can say opinion after conversion from 525? How many km is possible for ride and what improvement we can feel on acceleration or fuell consumption? Or difference is too small and better is stay on 525?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2022 8:46:28 GMT -7
For about 1000 miles and 2 track days I've been running:
RK MAX-X 520 120 link chain - I removed 4 links so its really 116 on the bike Driven 16 tooth 520 steel front sprocket Driven 42 tooth 520 steel rear sprocket
Really enjoying it so far. The slight change in rear teeth has kept the front end slightly more manageable on the track. Still comes up but not quite as easy along with giving me a little more top speed in each gear.
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Post by kamilspider on Nov 22, 2022 11:30:20 GMT -7
After conversion I can say that this have no sense. I just reduce totaly only 320g.
| OE 525
| 520
| other 525 did/supersprox
| FS | 0,25kg
| 0,19kg (CST-1579:16)
| 0,22
| RS | 0,63kg (0,71 with metal ring)
| 0,61kg (RST-486:43)
| 0,63
| Chain
| 2,05kg
| 1,89kg (Did zvmx 114)
| 2,44kg (Did 525 zvmx 114)
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Post by 3genx on Dec 4, 2022 19:21:34 GMT -7
I tried a top of the line 520 chain for a season and decided to switch back to 525 because it stretched at a higher rate and needed more adjusting for that. this experience on top of something about the relatively narrow width which seemed undersized to me for a torq monster Mt10 just wasn't very confidence inspiring and messed with my head. On top of that, I couldn't sense any performance increase on the street, so I concluded 520 has a place, and it's place is on the track. I also switched to a 41T rear sprocket and love it because the rpms and exhaust noise levels at highway cruising speeds are noticeably lower, and while it did tame the power wheelies a little bit, it's still a beast that will clutch up anytime you desire. Better gas mileage, too.
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