ridelyfe
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Post by ridelyfe on Apr 19, 2021 6:01:30 GMT -7
I don't really hear anything abnormal. Is it in the exhaust note or is something actually ticking within the engine? Maybe a leak in the exhaust? Maybe I gotta re listen with some headphones
I don't hear it but these ticks almost always turn out to be the Cam Chain, which as I mentioned previously, is completely normal.
In the video it sounds similar to a blown head gasket on a car. Really rough idle with an accented tick. All I know is my bike doesn't sound like that. 5k on the odd. |
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Post by sdshawn on Apr 19, 2021 6:45:59 GMT -7
Been reading the thread as different posts are added so my two penny worth Cam chain, Solenoid ? If its normal or not, the question hasn’t been answered and if it is normal that doesn’t mean its nothing to worry about ‘ What is causing the noise, does anybody know ?’ Cam chain, Solenoid or something else ? It would be nice to know and it would give peace of mind. I would like a dealer / manufacturer to say ‘ It is the …………………… making the noise and the reason it sounds like this is because…………………..’ so giving an explanation. If they don’t know what is causing the noise, how can it be said that it is nothing to worry about ? Do all 10s suffer with it ? I’m in rracerfz10 boat here when he wrote “That’s why the “this Is normal” answer doesn’t sit well with me”. There are number of vehicle cases where manufacturers have produced vehicles that they thought were bomb proof and they were found not to be. It happens. Sometimes faults come to light when vehicles are in use and not before. Bottom line……… it’s nice to know rather than hope for the best. I would like to know also for the same reason. Do the R1 s make this tick? Yamaha probably will not answer this question but I wonder if a engine builder can . Someone who torn the motors down possibly have the answers we are looking for . |
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mvfjps
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Post by mvfjps on Apr 19, 2021 10:17:59 GMT -7
sds.
I had an R1 for 10 years but one of the early ones Y reg, I think, and never had any noise similar to those high lighted in this thread.
Can somebody answer it on the later models as Yamaha may have made changes as the bike was developed.
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Post by sdshawn on Apr 19, 2021 11:42:04 GMT -7
Cross plain tick I still think it's something to do with the chain but no way it can be stretching and tightening that often like every couple hundred miles how can that be .
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Post by mvfjps on Apr 20, 2021 12:59:47 GMT -7
SDshawn.
Dont know if you can you add a bit of meat to the bone when you write ' something to do with the cam chain'
Do you think its just loose ? stretching ? then that stretch being taken up by the auto tensioner ? Or just rattling on itself or on the casing ?
How much oil does the cam chain run in, could it be something to do with that, the amount of oil that the chain carries on it ?
One of the reasons this is so interesting to me is , and the following relates to a car . BMW produced a series 5 between certain years, where the engine had the cam chain, it was chain not a belt, fitted at the rear of the engine close to the bulk head at the back of the engine bay.
With the idea that the chain would never need attention. That was shown to be incorrect as it did need working on after cars had been bought and run. The cost was not in parts but, labour, time spent removing the engine to get at the cam chain because of where it is.. Hence my reluctance to go along with the ' its normal it will be ok ' for this noise on the 10. Any thoughts from anybody on this subject would be appreciated .
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Post by sdshawn on Apr 20, 2021 14:35:17 GMT -7
Well that was mentioned by a member on here and it made sense when it comes and goes not constant at least not on my bike with 4500 miles on it I hope the question gets answered with some kind of proof.
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Post by mt1021 on Mar 20, 2022 16:22:42 GMT -7
Here's a video of mine ticking at about 30 seconds. Sorta sounds like an injector or lifter, idk... It's been like this since I bought it, and the previous owner said it made the same noise with him, which he took to the dealer and they said it's normal. What do you all think?? Any update? |
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Post by mt1021 on Mar 21, 2022 7:58:51 GMT -7
No.. I've just been riding it the way it is. The tick gets quieter when the water temp reads 200+, so I'm guessing it's a valve clearance issue that's not too bad. I'm just going to ride it until it gets worse, if it does. Most people think it's a normal tick, and since it gets a lot less noticeable the hotter the engine gets, it can't be anything serious like a rod bearing or anything. Does yours do it too or something?? Mine sounds and acts exactly as yours. Started noticing the ticks after changing the oil (Motul 300V). I don't know what oil the previous owner used. So I can't say the oil change has something to do with it. Just like you and many others, I'm taking it as normal. The bike is working perfectly fine. |
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Post by mt1021 on Mar 21, 2022 23:44:08 GMT -7
Mine sounds and acts exactly as yours. Started noticing the ticks after changing the oil (Motul 300V). I don't know what oil the previous owner used. So I can't say the oil change has something to do with it. Just like you and many others, I'm taking it as normal. The bike is working perfectly fine. Oh really? What year and how many miles is yours? That's funny, just put 300v in mine also right after I bought it at 1200 miles. But yeah, the previous owner took it to the shop right after he bought it and service told him some tick louder than others but it's normal. Definitely doesn't sound like a normal noise to me, but like you said, it's running perfectly fine so I'm not going to mess with it. My theory is it is a looser valve clearance. Once the engine gets on the warm side (water at 210-220), the noise practically goes away - which would be the clearances tightening up. So, the noise would be the cam lobe hitting the finger follower. But who knows. I plan on riding it this summer as long as it doesn't get worse and then taking it to the shop and having them check the clearances during the winter. I'm also going to use some Motul 15w50 in it next oil change and see if that quiets it up a bit. Mine is a 2021 with 4700 miles. My engine temp is around 170 when riding (40-55 degrees weather). I suspect the ticking will reduce with hotter weather. We’ll see. |
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Post by kratosfz10 on Nov 23, 2022 18:03:14 GMT -7
Figured I would post in this thread again, I just picked up a new 2022 MT-10.
As previously stated, I had a 2017 FZ-10 that had the tick that remained the same from day 1, adjusting the graves manual cct in either direction made no change to the ticking.
On my new MT-10, it is noticeably quieter, I do hear some ticking, but it is what I would consider normal. It only has 111 miles on it at the moment, so we'll see if any ticking starts happening over time.
I know some changes were made for 2022 like a new airbox, crankshaft and fuel injection system, so maybe the ticking was the fuel injectors on the previous model and are now quieter with the new system. I wouldn't think the crankshaft and/or airbox would lessen the ticking.
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Post by mt10orc on Nov 23, 2022 20:26:39 GMT -7
Not to be an old crotchety bastard , but all bikes will have a ticking sound. I have to say that my bikes from the 80’s and 90’s ticked a hell of a lot more than the bikes I’ve owned in the 2000’s. It’s what they do, cam shaft, injector’s, valves. It’s part of having an engine so close to our ears. Just make a note of it and if it affects performance or gets ungodly loud then you can trip on it. I used to worry about it when I was younger, but just say fuck it now. You either have a lemon or you don’t. You will know if it is something bad or not pretty damn soon if it’s not right.
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Post by kratosfz10 on Nov 23, 2022 20:57:59 GMT -7
Not to be an old crotchety bastard , but all bikes will have a ticking sound. I have to say that my bikes from the 80’s and 90’s ticked a hell of a lot more than the bikes I’ve owned in the 2000’s. It’s what they do, cam shaft, injector’s, valves. It’s part of having an engine so close to our ears. Just make a note of it and if it affects performance or gets ungodly loud then you can trip on it. I used to worry about it when I was younger, but just say fuck it now. You either have a lemon or you don’t. You will know if it is something bad or not pretty damn soon if it’s not right. I agree, but the FZ-10 was by far the loudest ticking/clattering bike I've ever had. But, the only other Yamaha I've owned was the first gen vmax, all the rest have been Honda or Suzuki. If I had owned an R6 or R1 that had the ticking prior to the FZ-10, it likely wouldn't have been so worrisome. I sold it right at 8000 miles and never had an issue, I ended up putting the automatic cct back on. |
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Post by terrys on Nov 24, 2022 12:28:38 GMT -7
Not to be an old crotchety bastard , but all bikes will have a ticking sound. I have to say that my bikes from the 80’s and 90’s ticked a hell of a lot more than the bikes I’ve owned in the 2000’s. It’s what they do, cam shaft, injector’s, valves. It’s part of having an engine so close to our ears. Just make a note of it and if it affects performance or gets ungodly loud then you can trip on it. I used to worry about it when I was younger, but just say fuck it now. You either have a lemon or you don’t. You will know if it is something bad or not pretty damn soon if it’s not right. It's perfectly OK to be a crotchety old bastard, I'm one too. I'm glad that I read about the engine tick being common on the MT-10 before I bought one, as I noticed it on my first test ride when I bought my bike (at about 16,000km). After another 20,000km I still notice it from time to to time, but consider it a feature, not a bug. The tick on mine comes and goes, most of the time I don't really notice it but occasionally I do. It definitely comes from the opposite side of my engine to the cam chain, so I know it is not that or at least not directly. Like you, I may have worried about it more when I relied on my bike for transport, but now it is just a plaything. If it breaks, I will fix it. My other bikes don't tick at all (but they are V4 Hondas!). |
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