lizerdking
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Post by lizerdking on Jun 20, 2020 6:12:50 GMT -7
Sincerely genuine good wishes and good luck op. Keep running those parking lot drills, and wear your gear even in short trips, helmet, gloves, boots, pants, and jacket.
This argument happens on about every online MC group I've been in at least a couple times a year, the way this ends the statistics are not in your favor. This is the equivalent of a 16 year old kid who doesn't have a license yet driving a Ferrari for his first car, it boggles the mind.
Other countries have a better system in place that requires new riders to get some saddle time on smaller bikes before they are allowed to get the full license. I wish the US would adopt the same policy, but freedom trumps safety/sanity I suppose.
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Post by achrista on Jun 20, 2020 8:07:19 GMT -7
I agree with your point that a crash is a call crashtcrash and I'll say it depends on how old/mature you are. It's not a good beginner bike by any means, but I think that point has been made quite clearly.
The benefit to a smaller bike with a linear power band is you can really wring out the throttle and see what happens without putting yourself in danger. You're not going to learn the nuance of controlling a power band nearly as well on an mt 10 because by the time you get to the top of it you're usually speeding.
Just my two cents.
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Post by mindcrime79 on Jun 20, 2020 8:12:36 GMT -7
It's twitchy, heavy, and powerful. Three things you don't want in a beginner bike. It's basically like that kid who gets a Camaro or mustang for his first car. Generally not a great idea.
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slangblades
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Post by slangblades on Jun 20, 2020 19:43:37 GMT -7
I pretty much watch Motojitsu, mc rider, and dandanthefireman anytime im on youtube which is ALOT. Most of whats difficult to learn on a motorcycle for beginners can be learned from 1-3rd gear. The bike, especially with tc3 and dm3 is very linear in its acceleration and so pretty easy to control and maneuver, even though it is indeed very twitchy. Parking lot training and short trips to the gym or grocery store are helping very much. Everyday i feel more and more in tune with the bike and am not ever smashing on the brakes or doing anything super abrupt on the bike, everything with finesse. I agree with there being better choices to start off on. But, Im confident it all comes down to having a good technique and a solid foundation of training just like anything. The only thing i really fear is dropping the bike during slow speed maneuvers. THis is where the twitchy throttle can be a problem but even this is easily countered with good clutch control. Im all about responsible riding. Actually, a friend of mine uploaded a video of herself to instagram where she is holding her cell phone with her clutch hand while only holding the bike with her throttle hand at like 45 mph. The caption read, "If i die while riding, ill die happy". I cringed hard at the sight. Shes on an R3. Besides her phone there was so much wrong with her form(standing up on the pegs while riding???). I said to my girl that could never be me. Some people do it for the gram. To me that is absolutely pathetic and truly i can never not see her as nothing but a poser idiot going forward. Nothing about what i saw made me EVER want to go riding with her anyone who thinks like her(My other friends seem to really respect their motorcycles). I think these people who care more about clout than building true skill are the ones who cannot and should not be trusted to drive powerful vehicles of ANY kind. I just want to let it be known, I do feel like i have my head in the right place as far as all this riding motorcycles business goes. Not everyone is the same, and to me, this is not such an impossible feat. It will take the time it takes, but learning to ride very well is definitely do-able on the mt-10. Theres better choices for 1st bike i admit. I simply dont have the money to fork out to upgrade every couple years. With this being said. I am planning on buying an mt03 if things go well at my job. That, or a dirt bike with which i can learn skills i might not be able to learn as easily on a heavier bike.
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pc1978
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Post by pc1978 on Jun 20, 2020 20:15:51 GMT -7
Like I mentioned in my previous post, my first bike was a ‘79 Suzuki GS1000E, with a couple “performance” mods. I was 19 years old and had never ridden a bike before. That was the late 90’s and we didn’t have nearly any of the resources that the internet provides now for new (and experienced) riders. I lived on a gravel road and had to ride about 3 miles on gravel before I hit a paved road each time I left the house. Then once off the gravel it was a curvy road for another couple miles with no shoulders and a steep drop off, till you got to the town and highway. Self-taught, never took the MSF (don’t know if they had it back then). Also never got my endorsement (I did have insurance though) for the 3 years I had the bike, very dumb. But I did take it easy at first and grew my skills. Sure it doesn’t have quite the power of the MT-10, but it still had plenty. And weighed more; worse tires, suspension, brakes; no ABS or TC. Wasn’t the wisest choice of my life, and fortunately things worked out. A large bike isn’t ideal for a beginner bike, but as long as you stay your current course you are on the right path to becoming a good/solid rider.
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Post by mindcrime79 on Jun 20, 2020 21:33:40 GMT -7
The words of Motojitsu: learn to ride a slow bike fast.
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gunnar
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fabbin stuff...
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Post by gunnar on Jun 21, 2020 8:27:46 GMT -7
...A crash at 35mph on a 1000cc bike is the same as a crash at 35mph on a 250cc bike... I beg to differ, I crashed an RD400 (weight 290 lbs.) going 15mph and slid 10 feet to the curb with the gas tank pushing my knee into the ground. Went down so fast I had no time to move my leg. I ground about a 1.5 inch diameter hole into my knee skin, no knee cap damage luckily, but the shifter broke off and pushed itself into my lower leg, meaning I pulled out the piece of shifter when I got to my house 2 miles away. If I did that on my MT10 (weight 467 lbs.) I'm pretty sure my knee would have been fairly wasted. Now lets say I wrecked my 670 lb Harley the same way...I doubt I would be walking anymore let alone riding a motorcycle.
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kohtachi
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Post by kohtachi on Jun 30, 2020 16:52:11 GMT -7
Permit to R6, bike scared the shit out of me. Made me respect the bike, made me learn throttle control really quick. I keep hearing reviews about mt-10 jerky throttle control but, but after a few rides it feels fine to me.
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Post by hooli on Jun 30, 2020 17:56:40 GMT -7
This dude called fast Eddie has shit loads of instruction videos. It's called motojitsu. If you havent seen it check it out. Lots of parking lot drills etc. Guy is a little bit out there but a hell of a rider/instructor. Lmao. That guy is a tool.
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