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Post by theculturalattache on Mar 4, 2020 8:50:51 GMT -7
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Post by theculturalattache on Mar 4, 2020 8:55:24 GMT -7
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Post by gunnar on Mar 4, 2020 9:04:32 GMT -7
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Post by rracerfz10 on Mar 4, 2020 21:33:57 GMT -7
No, I’ve owned two turbo cars back to back now and I don’t want a turbo on a bike. I’m sure all this is is a way to beat emissions like all the eco turbo cars that are out now.
The increased maintenance, complications with the engine, rideability problems. Nope no thanks. I had a 2009 Evo (got rear ended and totaled) now a Focus ST. Both were/are tuned and fun cars but I want as much simplicity as possible on a street bike.
Even the slightest turbo lag or boost spike leaned into a corner and that’s a bad day. That’s why a supercharger on a bike makes a LOT more sense like on the H2. It’s direct power and why you usually only see turbos on drag bikes.
I’m from Sarasota and personally knew Jonny Dorbin from exoticycle and if you knew anything about GSXRs/turbos/drag racing in the 90’s onward you know who that is. For how the MT10 is meant to be ridden a turbo is a terrible idea. They can’t even get the on/off throttle smooth on a NA bike!
/rant
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Post by clayton on Mar 5, 2020 9:27:56 GMT -7
Yamaha out testing the new MT10 Turbo
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uknixter
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Post by uknixter on Mar 5, 2020 10:36:43 GMT -7
Where do I send my money?
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Post by RedAndBlack on Mar 5, 2020 15:51:38 GMT -7
Threads combined. Editing the title of OP to make it more clear
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Turbo? I just want the SP version over here in the states!!!
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erriikk
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Post by erriikk on Mar 6, 2020 2:00:17 GMT -7
Supercharging like Kawasaki makes more sens IMO.
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Post by yzfgsx on Mar 6, 2020 11:01:08 GMT -7
I am in, turbo technology has improved quite a bit and it would be a very small turbo. I doubt lag would be a problem at all.
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Post by vstate60 on Mar 7, 2020 19:28:53 GMT -7
I am in, turbo technology has improved quite a bit and it would be a very small turbo. I doubt lag would be a problem at all. When I meet three people who can ride a current 2017+ MT-10 to anywhere near its potential....I’ll consider allowing a turbo version of it. Lol
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jacoby
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Post by jacoby on Mar 8, 2020 5:22:23 GMT -7
I can’t believe you guys think this is real.
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Post by clayton on Mar 8, 2020 6:13:11 GMT -7
I can’t believe you guys think this is real. What u think it’s fake news?
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jacoby
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Post by jacoby on Mar 8, 2020 9:13:15 GMT -7
I can’t believe you guys think this is real. What u think it’s fake news? Yep
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2020 20:59:33 GMT -7
Not 'fake news' since I'm sure that example exists... but that doesn't mean it'll be approved for production. And even if it eventually is, it might not be for the US market anyway, like the SP. With the low MT-10 sales, I'd be really surprised if a more expensive (to buy and insure) version would materialize here, but we'll see .
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Post by rracerfz10 on Mar 8, 2020 21:59:06 GMT -7
Not 'fake news' since I'm sure that example exists... but that doesn't mean it'll be approved for production. And even if it eventually is, it might not be for the US market anyway, like the SP. With the low MT-10 sales, I'd be really surprised if a more expensive (to buy and insure) version would materialize here, but we'll see . I don’t know if it’s just around here or not. Are the FZ/MT-10’s selling badly in the US? I mean personally I just bought a brand new leftover 2017 FZ-10 back in January but this part of the world is, let’s say different. In this style of bike the 150whp or so (according to 2wdw) my bike is making is plenty. The 2002 Blackbird I owned years ago made 194whp but that bike weighed 90lbs more and was longer and lower. IMO if you want a comfy (kinda) bike with more power buy a Busa or ZX-14.
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Post by kohtachi on Mar 9, 2020 9:02:36 GMT -7
No, I’ve owned two turbo cars back to back now and I don’t want a turbo on a bike. I’m sure all this is is a way to beat emissions like all the eco turbo cars that are out now. The increased maintenance, complications with the engine, rideability problems. Nope no thanks. I had a 2009 Evo (got rear ended and totaled) now a Focus ST. Both were/are tuned and fun cars but I want as much simplicity as possible on a street bike. Even the slightest turbo lag or boost spike leaned into a corner and that’s a bad day. That’s why a supercharger on a bike makes a LOT more sense like on the H2. It’s direct power and why you usually only see turbos on drag bikes. I’m from Sarasota and personally knew Jonny Dorbin from exoticycle and if you knew anything about GSXRs/turbos/drag racing in the 90’s onward you know who that is. For how the MT10 is meant to be ridden a turbo is a terrible idea. They can’t even get the on/off throttle smooth on a NA bike! /rant I would have to agree with you. Had to replace turbo twice on two different audis and then went for the v8, less mpg but couldn't be happier.
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Post by 3lseeker on Mar 9, 2020 9:17:21 GMT -7
I agree with KOHTACHI, that I would like to meet anyone who can ride the MT-10 to it's stock potential with current or modified brakes and stay on the road. That said I think we have plenty of power! www.quora.com says, "The statement “no replacement for displacement” refers to the fact that thus far, technology has not provided a satisfactory replacement for a large displacement naturally aspirated engines. ... A larger engine will always have the potential for more power simply because it is larger."
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Post by rracerfz10 on Mar 9, 2020 17:46:17 GMT -7
I still believe it’s a way to pass emissions. Auto manufacturers have been taking this approach for years now. Why do you think there’ are so many small displacement turbo cars now? It’s so within the testing range they can pass co2 standards and still provide a car that doesn’t drive like a 3 cylinder Geo Metro. For Yamaha to make an MT10 that puts out 200hp in an NA form they’d need to bump displacement up a good bit but with the insanely strict euro emissions standards I doubt it would be possible.
Think back to the 80’s-90’s. How many air pumps got ripped off of V8s? I’d bet direct injection is coming too which carries a whole new host of problems. Intake valves getting carboned up and such. Dual injection like Toyota has gone to is a much better alternative.
Back on topic. In an application like a motorcycle supercharging is a much better way to go. There have been factory turbo bikes in the past but I still don’t believe it’s the way to go.
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Post by dnozzle on Apr 1, 2020 15:27:50 GMT -7
I would ride the PISS out of a turbo '10. Sign me up!
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