steelridingfool
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Post by steelridingfool on Feb 15, 2020 19:09:34 GMT -7
Hey y’all, I’m over infatuated with this Yamaha mt-10 and am seeing some 2019’s with good prices, I guess anyhow. I’m reading on this forum and am seeing problems that occur and am starting to wonder if I should wait for 2021 model. Also I have opportunity to have engine, transmission, and powertrain lifetime warranty if I have dealer change oil within 7500 mile intervals and check valve clearance within every two years. Is that a better move than going ahead and buying the Yamaha 5 year warranty, get both? Thoughts appreciated on maintenance of the bike as I can get the help and even do much myself.. 🇺🇸⚜️🏍🍻🤘
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Post by RedAndBlack on Feb 15, 2020 20:31:20 GMT -7
Welcome to the forum.
Not quite sure what problems you're referring to. I think it's a good bike that doesn't seem to suffer from any major issues.
As far as warranties, I usually recommend against them unless you're getting a sweet deal. What's even worse is when they require the dealer to do the work. A dealer first service may cost you over $200. It's basically an oil change and checking bolts for tightness. Which can be done for well under $50.
Same thing with the valve clearances. Dealers charge crazy money for them, I've heard people say $500 before. when a good mechanic will charge you around $200 give or take some depending on if they need to actually be adjusted. Factor in this type of stuff, you're paying WAYYYY more money for a warranty if it requires your maintenance to be done by a dealer. So I would say no to the one you describe. I wouldn't go with any warranty outside a Yamaha warranty. Those 3rd party warranty companies are SHADY AS FUCK.
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Post by dashiznit1 on Feb 16, 2020 11:10:21 GMT -7
Hey y’all, I’m over infatuated with this Yamaha mt-10 and am seeing some 2019’s with good prices, I guess anyhow. I’m reading on this forum and am seeing problems that occur and am starting to wonder if I should wait for 2021 model. Also I have opportunity to have engine, transmission, and powertrain lifetime warranty if I have dealer change oil within 7500 mile intervals and check valve clearance within every two years. Is that a better move than going ahead and buying the Yamaha 5 year warranty, get both? Thoughts appreciated on maintenance of the bike as I can get the help and even do much myself.. 🇺🇸⚜️🏍🍻🤘 I have heard of a few engine failures on this forum and locally and with each one Yamaha really fought tooth and nail to not be responsible. Even when they agreed to fix it they don't make spare engines so they had to have a shoddy rebuild done at the dealership which is never going to be reliable. They are fantastic bikes but yes you're taking a risk buying one. Then again you do that with any bike. |
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Post by khanartist on Feb 16, 2020 21:37:48 GMT -7
Hey y’all, I’m over infatuated with this Yamaha mt-10 and am seeing some 2019’s with good prices, I guess anyhow. I’m reading on this forum and am seeing problems that occur and am starting to wonder if I should wait for 2021 model. Also I have opportunity to have engine, transmission, and powertrain lifetime warranty if I have dealer change oil within 7500 mile intervals and check valve clearance within every two years. Is that a better move than going ahead and buying the Yamaha 5 year warranty, get both? Thoughts appreciated on maintenance of the bike as I can get the help and even do much myself.. 🇺🇸⚜️🏍🍻🤘 I have heard of a few engine failures on this forum and locally and with each one Yamaha really fought tooth and nail to not be responsible. Even when they agreed to fix it they don't make spare engines so they had to have a shoddy rebuild done at the dealership which is never going to be reliable. They are fantastic bikes but yes you're taking a risk buying one. Then again you do that with any bike. Ill bite the bait here. I would first like to point out that Yamaha is #1 worldwide in reliability for motorcycles, so the failures you're hearing about are that rare 10% of people with issues and lord knows what they did to achieve that, its an old link but this gives an idea www.moneytalksnews.com/the-most-reliable-motorcycle-brand-not-harley/. I have a 2002 FZ1 with over 100k on it(its survived wrecks too in my younger days), original engine and still going strong. I have a 2018 MT10 that I ride like a madman, no issues. keep up on maintenance and you should be good, you take a risk buying any vehicle when it comes to problems arising as Dash said. The Crossplane motor has been around for like 10 or so years if I'm not mistaken so its safe to say the kinks have been worked out so you shouldn't worry so much about the potential problems and focus on how much fun you will have turning heads while riding by on a transformer and tearing up the streets.
The maintenance schedule is kinda wonkey imo but i hear its worse on some other bikes, first off the bike comes with yamalube full synthetic which is good for 8000 miles and valve clearances are done at 27000 miles, if you can change your plugs and do all the other stuff you will save alot of money but idk if you would void your warranty cracking open your engine like that outside of doing an oil change. I have a 5 year warranty and I question my decision to get it due to my previous experience with yamaha and not having issues with their engines and transmissions. I want to Decat it soon and cancel my warranty if possible, the way I ride, the bike would have been had problems but nope, strong as the first day i bought it. Do yourself a favor and get the bike, you wont regret it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 0:37:04 GMT -7
I've only read of 2 failures, and only 1 reported not having it tuned... but no details on maintenance, use, etc. Bottom line is 2 engine failures in 3+ years in the US (don't know how many bikes, but must be well over 1K), is really nothing to worry about IMO. And even then, neither might have been Yamaha's fault. I debated buying the Y.E.S., but at the end, decided it wasn't worth it, and skipped it. Even if I have an engine issue, I've saved tens of thousands of dollars skipping such service contracts, so I'd still be ahead of the game  . Good luck. |
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steelridingfool
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Post by steelridingfool on Feb 17, 2020 7:27:04 GMT -7
I have heard of a few engine failures on this forum and locally and with each one Yamaha really fought tooth and nail to not be responsible. Even when they agreed to fix it they don't make spare engines so they had to have a shoddy rebuild done at the dealership which is never going to be reliable. They are fantastic bikes but yes you're taking a risk buying one. Then again you do that with any bike. Ill bite the bait here. I would first like to point out that Yamaha is #1 worldwide in reliability for motorcycles, so the failures you're hearing about are that rare 10% of people with issues and lord knows what they did to achieve that, its an old link but this gives an idea www.moneytalksnews.com/the-most-reliable-motorcycle-brand-not-harley/. I have a 2002 FZ1 with over 100k on it(its survived wrecks too in my younger days), original engine and still going strong. I have a 2018 MT10 that I ride like a madman, no issues. keep up on maintenance and you should be good, you take a risk buying any vehicle when it comes to problems arising as Dash said. The Crossplane motor has been around for like 10 or so years if I'm not mistaken so its safe to say the kinks have been worked out so you shouldn't worry so much about the potential problems and focus on how much fun you will have turning heads while riding by on a transformer and tearing up the streets.
The maintenance schedule is kinda wonkey imo but i hear its worse on some other bikes, first off the bike comes with yamalube full synthetic which is good for 8000 miles and valve clearances are done at 27000 miles, if you can change your plugs and do all the other stuff you will save alot of money but idk if you would void your warranty cracking open your engine like that outside of doing an oil change. I have a 5 year warranty and I question my decision to get it due to my previous experience with yamaha and not having issues with their engines and transmissions. I want to Decat it soon and cancel my warranty if possible, the way I ride, the bike would have been had problems but nope, strong as the first day i bought it. Do yourself a favor and get the bike, you wont regret it.
That was a serious diehard story telling deal, thank you. Also, you can discontinue your warranty and get your money bay at a prorated amount minus twenty five dollars. I’m seriously thinking of buying one of these, they seem to be more fun than anyone can ask for! I know Yamahalube also gives a 100,000 mile 5,000 hour, 20 year warranty as long as you use there oil and save all receipts, must change filter each time too, with their filter. That’s quite incredible. |
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Post by evitzee on Feb 17, 2020 15:41:17 GMT -7
I've had many Yamahas since 1994 and have never had any sort of problem that needed any sort of dealer intervention. There will always be failures in a manufactured system, but I see no pattern that would point to any endemic problem in the R1/FZ10 engine. As far as oil changes go you should change it at 600 miles (and filter). I change the oil and filter every year because I don't put on more than about 3,500 miles per year. The oil probably still has a lot of life left in the oil at the end of a year but I like to start the spring with new, fresh oil.
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Post by steelridingfool on Feb 18, 2020 6:59:50 GMT -7
I've had many Yamahas since 1994 and have never had any sort of problem that needed any sort of dealer intervention. There will always be failures in a manufactured system, but I see no pattern that would point to any endemic problem in the R1/FZ10 engine. As far as oil changes go you should change it at 600 miles (and filter). I change the oil and filter every year because I don't put on more than about 3,500 miles per year. The oil probably still has a lot of life left in the oil at the end of a year but I like to start the spring with new, fresh oil. You sound very confident in the Yamaha brand! |
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Post by oskarz28 on Feb 19, 2020 15:25:23 GMT -7
Just get it. Used they are cheap, sound great, have decent power, not too many problems. I've been happy with mine.
Or get Tuono....only other bike I considered, but they are more $$$$. Did I say MT10 it's the best sounding bike out there. Don't worry about warranties, they all suck.
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Post by rracerfz10 on Feb 25, 2020 18:11:48 GMT -7
Yes buy one /close thread
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Post by encee on Apr 7, 2020 13:21:02 GMT -7
Just get it. Used they are cheap, sound great, have decent power, not too many problems. I've been happy with mine. Or get Tuono....only other bike I considered, but they are more $$$$. Did I say MT10 it's the best sounding bike out there. Don't worry about warranties, they all suck. The Tuono, though, doesn`t have the same excitement as the MT-10. Yes, it`s beautiful (the Factory is, anyway), very fast, and very accomplished, but cannot match the MT-10 for total excitement, which is down to throttle-response. The t/r on the 10 is so instant, and immediate, whereas the Tuono is just like most other bikes out there, and builds (albeit very quickly) smoothly and progressively, and because of this is just not as exciting to ride. All IMHO, of course  |
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Post by achrista on Apr 8, 2020 7:02:33 GMT -7
I think the tuono would be a perfectly exciting bike, but i am quite happy with my mt-10.
As others have stated, forums will over-represent any mechanical issues with a bike due to selection biases. People who encounter problems are more likely to seek out a forum to discuss them than people who have perfectly fine motorcycles.
From what I have heard, the Tuono is much more likely to give you issues when it comes to general reliability and cost of maintenance. I would not go italian for that reason.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2020 16:38:14 GMT -7
The Tuono is also a more radical bike, more like a supersport without full fairings. It's better at the track, like all reviews tell you... but no way my knees would tolerate it for the kind of riding I do (multiple full days on twisty trips). The bars are also more aggressive. I tried lowering pegs once, and never again; they splay the legs too much for my liking. So at least for me, the 'right' bike has fit me properly at the pegs. The MT-10 was perfect from the factory; I just changed the seat, but that typically happens with any bike . I don't even need the power the MT-10 has, so the extra 25 or so ponies on the Tuono do absolutely nothing for me. And of course I want the most reliable bike possible... and with the most dealers in case of any trouble. This is probably the last bike I'm going to own. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 6:45:37 GMT -7
I was seriously thinking of pulling the trigger on a Tuono but chose FZ-10 instead.
Dealer support was the deal breaker for me. If something went wrong and I needed a good mechanic/dealer Yamaha support is literally everywhere. Aprilla? 1 dealer in a 300 mile radius and it is over 60 miles from my home.
It also helped that the FZ/MT was more comfortable and had touring capabilities if I needed them.
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Post by oskarz28 on May 5, 2020 11:27:01 GMT -7
I got FZ10 over Tuono because I could actually find a used one for decent price. Also, I've always been happy with Yamaha quality so that was another selling point. I will never ride on the level to get max performance out of either machine. But it was basically between those two.
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Post by yourname2221 on May 5, 2020 12:16:30 GMT -7
I've always been a Suzuki guy, having had my 750 for a decade and also having an sv650 for a while, but price:performance the mt-10 was tough to pass up. I'm getting a little older, so that sports bike life (and seating position) just wasn't for me, so that left me with the naked/standard bikes to look at. I looked at the GSX-S1000 and felt it was a little bland and that the motor was an old 1k out of like a k6 or something, no thanks. Then looked at the BMW S1000r but the price just crept up too high for how I'd want the bike to look, thatch when i found the mt-10/s1000r comparisons and saw that the power #'s were comparable. Saw that Ice Fluro grey and knew what I was getting from there. I've only been able to put about 100 miles on it as I've had it torn down for upgrades, but I know its going to be an absolute blast.
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. Good luck.
