dashiznit1
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Post by dashiznit1 on Jan 29, 2020 10:13:29 GMT -7
Has anybody attempted this? I'd love to have a hydraulic clutch to avoid cable lubing/adjustment and an easier more consistent pull but I know that this bike requires a weirdly shaped clutch level because of the massive left hand switch gear.
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ducagolf
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Post by ducagolf on Jan 30, 2020 5:46:41 GMT -7
See magura hydraulic I inquired a while back and supposedly they have a set up for the MT09 and can do one for the MT10
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Post by ducagolf on Jan 30, 2020 5:47:25 GMT -7
See magura hydraulic I inquired a while back and supposedly they have a set up for the MT09 and can do one for the MT10
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Post by gunnar on Jan 30, 2020 10:25:17 GMT -7
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Post by vstate60 on Feb 1, 2020 19:21:41 GMT -7
I do love wasting time and money....but damn that seems like too much of both.
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Post by dashiznit1 on Feb 2, 2020 18:29:31 GMT -7
Nice I'll keep an eye out for that to come back in stock. In the mean time I got (what I thought to be) a good idea; the 2014+ Super Tenere has the same left hand switch gear as the mt10 so I found a part bike master cylinder and lever that should hopefully have an OEM fit plus a plug and play clutch switch. Now I just need to get the slave cylinder and cable length measurements!
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dashiznit1
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Post by dashiznit1 on Feb 2, 2020 18:31:18 GMT -7
I do love wasting time and money....but damn that seems like too much of both. If you already paid all that money for an mt10 what's another ~$200 for a buttery smooth light pull clutch?
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Post by vstate60 on Feb 2, 2020 20:15:32 GMT -7
I do love wasting time and money....but damn that seems like too much of both. If you already paid all that money for an mt10 what's another ~$200 for a buttery smooth light pull clutch? It has one. Love you & all but what’s the point? All I can picture is: -Too weak to physically pull the clutch lever in -Too inexperienced to modulate stock clutch lever correctly when banging out downshifts -You have too much money to spare instead of wasting it on a hydraulic clutch, donate to the RRW Airfence fund -You have too much time on your hands—if this option is true, swing by and help me make my bike look more like Gunnar’s MT-10
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Post by wjcbsr on Feb 2, 2020 21:25:59 GMT -7
I like the idea. Just some new, trick farkles to add. What could be wrong with that?
Let us know if you decide to go that way and get it fitted. I'd be interested to see how it all turns out.
~B
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Post by vstate60 on Feb 2, 2020 21:39:14 GMT -7
I like the idea. Just some new, trick farkles to add. What could be wrong with that? Let us know if you decide to go that way and get it fitted. I'd be interested to see how it all turns out. ~B Reading back now—I sound like a bit of a shit head. In reality I’m down for whatever anyone wants to do to their bike—I’m just also accustomed to helping riders learn on and off the track and they’re usually chasing some demon that doesn’t exist...when gas money/track time and training is all they need.
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Post by dashiznit1 on Feb 11, 2020 12:56:19 GMT -7
If you already paid all that money for an mt10 what's another ~$200 for a buttery smooth light pull clutch? It has one. Love you & all but what’s the point? All I can picture is: -Too weak to physically pull the clutch lever in -Too inexperienced to modulate stock clutch lever correctly when banging out downshifts -You have too much money to spare instead of wasting it on a hydraulic clutch, donate to the RRW Airfence fund -You have too much time on your hands—if this option is true, swing by and help me make my bike look more like Gunnar’s MT-10 Dang how do you know me so well? I was trying to keep my atrophied arm's weakness and mental inability to modulate a clutch lever a secret. Lol You should try out a hydraulic clutch some time. They feel very premium and work great but I could never justify the higher price tag and lower reliability of a Ducati or KTM super naked over the MT. My vmax 1200 and Raider have hydraulic clutches and even though the overall clutch pull can be heavier (a 1900 vtwin will always feel heavier than a sport bike clutch) they both feel smoother, more consistent and overall nicer than the MT. I'm almost constantly adjusting the cable slack on the MT to get it to feel as good but I can't.
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Post by pc1978 on Feb 11, 2020 14:25:57 GMT -7
It has one. Love you & all but what’s the point? All I can picture is: -Too weak to physically pull the clutch lever in -Too inexperienced to modulate stock clutch lever correctly when banging out downshifts -You have too much money to spare instead of wasting it on a hydraulic clutch, donate to the RRW Airfence fund -You have too much time on your hands—if this option is true, swing by and help me make my bike look more like Gunnar’s MT-10 Dang how do you know me so well? I was trying to keep my atrophied arm's weakness and mental inability to modulate a clutch lever a secret. Lol You should try out a hydraulic clutch some time. They feel very premium and work great but I could never justify the higher price tag and lower reliability of a Ducati or KTM super naked over the MT. My vmax 1200 and Raider have hydraulic clutches and even though the overall clutch pull can be heavier (a 1900 vtwin will always feel heavier than a sport bike clutch) they both feel smoother, more consistent and overall nicer than the MT. I'm almost constantly adjusting the cable slack on the MT to get it to feel as good but I can't. Just wondering if the KTM Super Duke GT came across your radar when looking for a bike. Reason I ask is because you had mentioned before in other threads about wanting the ergonomics and features of the Tracer but the engine/power of the MT10. I owned the SDGT and it is an awesome bike. I do like the MT10 better, but probably for reasons that are exactly opposite of what attracts you to the Tracer. The GT version of Super Duke never took off in the US when released (much more popular in Europe) and as a result inventory far outpaced demand. Which left dealers with a lot of excess inventory that they couldn’t move (2016-17 models; redesigned for 2019 and it appears they got the supply/demand numbers more in line with reality) and resulted in massive discounts. The GT has a 2 year warranty (where the SDR only has 1 year). And I know that how the warranty reads on paper makes some people nervous, but KTM really is good about covering legit issues on the entire bike during the warranty period. I also bought a Zurich aftermarket inclusive service plan on mine for $1,100 for 4 additional years coverage (6 total years from purchase date. The bike has a $20k MSRP and in October 2018 I paid $14,500 with no dealer fees for my new, old stock, 2016. Here is a new, old stock, 2017 for $12,500 that I’m guessing this dealer wants gone: www.cycletrader.com/listing/2017-KTM-1290-Super-Duke-GT-5011128621Haven’t verified but the KTM forum I am on has members stating that KTM is running 1.99% financing in February. Also not sure if it only applies to certain models. Engine and frame are the same as the SDR but some of the differences between the GT and SDR: -Windscreen -Larger gas tank that also doubles as additional wind protection -Lean angle cornering lights. -More spacious rider and passenger seating. -Panniers -Cruise control -Heated grips -Electronically adjustable suspension with electronic preload It is like a Tracer GT on steroids. 175 HP and 105 ft-lb torque (claimed at the crank) on a “touring” bike that weighs right at 500 lbs wet.
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Post by wodger63 on Feb 11, 2020 14:52:50 GMT -7
I'm almost constantly adjusting the cable slack on the MT to get it to feel as good but I can't. I fitted new levers, adjusted the free play and have not touched it again since. I came from a hydro clutch on a KTM, yes the MT -10 is different but it is what it is and works. I can't speak with absolute authority but I think the nature of the mechanical slipper effects the feel at the lever. Best to stop over thinking it and ride.
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Post by dashiznit1 on Feb 11, 2020 15:33:41 GMT -7
Dang how do you know me so well? I was trying to keep my atrophied arm's weakness and mental inability to modulate a clutch lever a secret. Lol You should try out a hydraulic clutch some time. They feel very premium and work great but I could never justify the higher price tag and lower reliability of a Ducati or KTM super naked over the MT. My vmax 1200 and Raider have hydraulic clutches and even though the overall clutch pull can be heavier (a 1900 vtwin will always feel heavier than a sport bike clutch) they both feel smoother, more consistent and overall nicer than the MT. I'm almost constantly adjusting the cable slack on the MT to get it to feel as good but I can't. Just wondering if the KTM Super Duke GT came across your radar when looking for a bike. Reason I ask is because you had mentioned before in other threads about wanting the ergonomics and features of the Tracer but the engine/power of the MT10. I owned the SDGT and it is an awesome bike. I do like the MT10 better, but probably for reasons that are exactly opposite of what attracts you to the Tracer. The GT version of Super Duke never took off in the US when released (much more popular in Europe) and as a result inventory far outpaced demand. Which left dealers with a lot of excess inventory that they couldn’t move (2016-17 models; redesigned for 2019 and it appears they got the supply/demand numbers more in line with reality) and resulted in massive discounts. The GT has a 2 year warranty (where the SDR only has 1 year). And I know that how the warranty reads on paper makes some people nervous, but KTM really is good about covering legit issues on the entire bike during the warranty period. I also bought a Zurich aftermarket inclusive service plan on mine for $1,100 for 4 additional years coverage (6 total years from purchase date. The bike has a $20k MSRP and in October 2018 I paid $14,500 with no dealer fees for my new, old stock, 2016. Here is a new, old stock, 2017 for $12,500 that I’m guessing this dealer wants gone: www.cycletrader.com/listing/2017-KTM-1290-Super-Duke-GT-5011128621Haven’t verified but the KTM forum I am on has members stating that KTM is running 1.99% financing in February. Also not sure if it only applies to certain models. Engine and frame are the same as the SDR but some of the differences between the GT and SDR: -Windscreen -Larger gas tank that also doubles as additional wind protection -Lean angle cornering lights. -More spacious rider and passenger seating. -Panniers -Cruise control -Heated grips -Electronically adjustable suspension with electronic preload It is like a Tracer GT on steroids. 175 HP and 105 ft-lb torque (claimed at the crank) on a “touring” bike that weighs right at 500 lbs wet. I did have my eyes on the sdgt and like everything about it but I couldn't find any in my price range. The leftover situation also applies to the mt10 which is why I ended up getting it (brand new almost 2 year old leftover) for a great deal. I'm a huge fan of the KTMs but at the same time I've heard a lot of electronic and part failure complaints and regardless of whether KTM will fix it under warranty or not I don't want to be left stranded and/or wait for repairs. I figured if I mod the hell out of my MT over time to make it exactly how I want it to be it'll have similar practicality to a sport tourer while still being way more sporty and fun. It'll also be more reliable than a European bike which is a must on long trips. Just curious, what made you get rid of the sdgt?
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Post by pc1978 on Feb 11, 2020 18:28:17 GMT -7
I did have my eyes on the sdgt and like everything about it but I couldn't find any in my price range. The leftover situation also applies to the mt10 which is why I ended up getting it (brand new almost 2 year old leftover) for a great deal. I'm a huge fan of the KTMs but at the same time I've heard a lot of electronic and part failure complaints and regardless of whether KTM will fix it under warranty or not I don't want to be left stranded and/or wait for repairs. I figured if I mod the hell out of my MT over time to make it exactly how I want it to be it'll have similar practicality to a sport tourer while still being way more sporty and fun. It'll also be more reliable than a European bike which is a must on long trips. Just curious, what made you get rid of the sdgt? Yeah, I had the electronic pre-load adjuster fail on mine. KTM repaired it under warranty with no questions or drama but the dealer did have to ship it to KTM North America for repair. The bike was still rideable, just couldn’t adjust the pre-load, so I could continue riding until they, and the dealer, were ready for it. I actually wrecked it and the insurance company totaled it. Nothing too bad, was at 35 mph, just a dumb rider error. But the sum of all the parts they would have to replace for a complete repair, and labor, caused them to total it. I was holding out for it to go to auction and if it went for cheap enough was going to try to buy it back and repair it. Well that didn’t happen. It went for $5,200 and with auction fees would be $6k. My repairs would have been around $1300 putting the total investment at $7,300. Insurance valuation was $10,500 (11k miles on it). With a salvage title and still having minor scratches that wasn’t worth it to me. So I was in the market for a naked bike (first gen SDR, S1000R, and Monster 1200 at the top of my list) when I came across a nicely modded MT-10 listed on Craigslist for $9k, with 3500 miles on it. Picked it up for $8,500. Some of the mods were in the opposite direction of where you are going (lowered handle bar, R1 rear sets). But he had done probably every mod I would have wanted/eventually thought of to do. He had it set up very nicely. So all I had to do was buy it and start riding, without having to spend the time or money to modify it. I am extremely happy with the bike. It is for sure a better handling bike than the SDGT. And with the cat delete, ECU flash and QS+/- it has very similar power to a stock SDGT. I wanted to pay cash and that was the price range I was looking at. I couldn’t have got a similar year and mileage stock European naked bike for anywhere near that price, much less a modified one.
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Post by vstate60 on Feb 11, 2020 22:20:05 GMT -7
It has one. Love you & all but what’s the point? All I can picture is: -Too weak to physically pull the clutch lever in -Too inexperienced to modulate stock clutch lever correctly when banging out downshifts -You have too much money to spare instead of wasting it on a hydraulic clutch, donate to the RRW Airfence fund -You have too much time on your hands—if this option is true, swing by and help me make my bike look more like Gunnar’s MT-10 Dang how do you know me so well? I was trying to keep my atrophied arm's weakness and mental inability to modulate a clutch lever a secret. Lol You should try out a hydraulic clutch some time. They feel very premium and work great but I could never justify the higher price tag and lower reliability of a Ducati or KTM super naked over the MT. My vmax 1200 and Raider have hydraulic clutches and even though the overall clutch pull can be heavier (a 1900 vtwin will always feel heavier than a sport bike clutch) they both feel smoother, more consistent and overall nicer than the MT. I'm almost constantly adjusting the cable slack on the MT to get it to feel as good but I can't. I’ve owned hydraulic clutches...cannot complain about the MT’s clutch feel or required force at all. But I just ride the shit out of it and with my tiny brain and strong forearms it leaves little time to think of much else 😎😎
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