iceman66
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Is there an AGM battery for MT-10? I have had fantastic luck with Odessy AGM in my gen 1 VMAX.
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Post by iceman66 on Jan 21, 2020 18:21:17 GMT -7
Greetings. I am a proud owner of a brand new 2019 MT-10 Raven Black. Glad to be part of the forum.
Question: Is the OEM VRLA battery a reliable solution? I have had fantastic success with Odessy AGM with my Gen 1 VMAX but I don't know if there is an AGM made for the MT-10. Any opinions?
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smokinfz10
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Post by smokinfz10 on Jan 21, 2020 19:37:53 GMT -7
Welcome to the Forum!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 23:38:48 GMT -7
I'd like to have an AGM battery for the bike too. Please let us know if you find one; I haven't looked. The other option would be a Lithium-Ion one, which are lighter, but have read mixed reviews. Plus are a lot more expensive, and require a special charger too.
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Post by mattemike on Jan 22, 2020 5:47:02 GMT -7
Welcome to the forum. I'd recommend just staying with the factory battery for a while. It is reliable for me as I don't start it frequently but still cranks it over quickly.
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dkim213
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Post by dkim213 on Jan 22, 2020 8:52:36 GMT -7
I thought the MT-10 comes factory with an AGM battery.
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Post by RedAndBlack on Jan 22, 2020 13:58:05 GMT -7
I don't spend a lot on batteries anymore. Most of what you'll find is the technology in simple batteries is the same and some brands actually utilize the same exact parts inside the batteries from certain companies. I believe this was covered in a YouTube video by ProjectFarm comparing car batteries. Where as he was discovering batteries that were different prices based on the brand names on them, but they were functionally the same battery. I mean, I wouldn't be buying batteries from China off of Ebay, but I don't stress much over battery brands and making sure I get an OEM or name brand battery vs getting some less name battery with good reviews on Amazon.
What matters way more, at least in my experience, is how you take care of the battery. If you leave the bike sitting for long periods of times in a state of discharge without removing it from the bike or putting it on the tender, the battery will sulfate and it's life expectancy will greatly decrease. Where as, if you avoid those situations and remove or tender the battery when it has to sit, you can get way more than 2 years out of the battery.
I don't have much experience with Lithium batteries and I'm sure they're better, but not so sure they are worth the extra cost. I purchased one on a previous bike but didn't have the bike that much longer after. Bike would sure fire up very quick and sounded much healthier while starting up, but at a steep cost.
My OEM battery lasted only about 2 years and was replaced last year but due to SoCals crazy rainy weather last year, the bike sat a lot and I never took the battery out or put it on the tender.
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Post by evitzee on Jan 23, 2020 15:39:59 GMT -7
My FZ-10 is about 3 1/2 years old and still using the OEM battery, it is ALWAYS on a Battery Tender if it isn't rolling down the road. This helps tremendously, these batteries are small and lose charge relatively quickly. Let it sit for six weeks or so and you may have issues. That said, I fired up the bike for the first time in about two months today and it seemed a tad slower than usual, think I'll just replace it for the upcoming season. You can get a Yuasa YTZ10S OEM maintenance free battery for $107 + tax delivered. Hard to beat that. People get all juiced up about saving weight but unless you are tracking your bike you aren't going to feel any real world weight reduction due to the battery.
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Post by theculturalattache on Jan 24, 2020 10:46:09 GMT -7
I am not impressed with the performance of the standard battery, and yes I do use a charger.
I am about to change out to a shorai lithium battery.
Been running one in my other bike, ZX14R for a couple of years now.
Much better performance, spins up much quicker and never had an issue.
Also had one in my 07 R1 when I had it.Again,spun up much quicker and no issues.
They are expensive though.
Cheapest place I can find is motomummy.
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Post by hooli on Jan 24, 2020 11:01:49 GMT -7
Has anyone installed a Speed Cell battery?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 10:39:02 GMT -7
The OEM battery is definitely NOT an AGM. Mine seem to struggle cranking the engine since day 1, and I don't like that. Not sure it's the battery or the starter, but my guess is the battery. And yes, I charge it weekly (for some reason, don't like leaving it connected all the time). Hey Evitzee, is that Yuasa YTZ10S AGM? At any rate, when you replace it, please let us know if it cranks any better than the stock one. By the way, always fully charge a new battery before installation; it extends its life. Don't think my dealer did that, even when I requested it. But doubt it'd crank any better if done. If TheCulturalAttache reports much better performance with the Shorai, I might bite the bullet and buy one, even though I'd also need a new charger, since my smart Optimate6 charger is not for Lithium-Ion batteries.
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Post by dkim213 on Jan 25, 2020 10:46:02 GMT -7
The OEM battery is definitely NOT an AGM. Mine seem to struggle cranking the engine since day 1, and I don't like that. Not sure it's the battery or the starter, but my guess is the battery. And yes, I charge it weekly (for some reason, don't like leaving it connected all the time). Hey Evitzee, is that Yuasa YTZ10S AGM? At any rate, when you replace it, please let us know if it cranks any better than the stock one. By the way, always fully charge a new battery before installation; it extends its life. Don't think my dealer did that, even when I requested it. But doubt it'd crank any better if done. If TheCulturalAttache reports much better performance with the Shorai, I might bite the bullet and buy one, even though I'd also need a new charger, since my smart Optimate6 charger is not for Lithium-Ion batteries. You seem pretty sure.   www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/yuasa-ytz10s-factory-activated-agm-high-performance-battery |
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Post by clayton on Jan 25, 2020 10:53:13 GMT -7
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 11:07:17 GMT -7
Well, yes, I'm absolutely sure MINE is not an AGM. Maybe it changed after 2017. Or dealer put something else. Will check the part number when I get back home, out of curiosity. But glad to know there's an OEM fitting AGM alternative, in case the Shorai is crazy expensive, or it doesn't crank the engine any better.
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Post by dkim213 on Jan 25, 2020 11:25:30 GMT -7
Well, yes, I'm absolutely sure MINE is not an AGM. Maybe it changed after 2017. Or dealer put something else. Will check the part number when I get back home, out of curiosity. But glad to know there's an OEM fitting AGM alternative, in case the Shorai is crazy expensive, or it doesn't crank the engine any better. The Yuasa search was for a 2017 FZ-10. The partzilla search was for a 2019 MT-10 I’m sure the lithium will crank the bike harder. The voltage sags less. Here’s an article for example: www.motorcyclistonline.com/news/lighten-lithium-ion-battery-gear/#axzz2FM2dccTb |
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Post by theculturalattache on Jan 25, 2020 12:45:51 GMT -7
The shorai definitely spins up quicker than the OEM battery.
Ive fitted mine now and am happy with the performance.
Just like my ZX14R,noticeably cranks quicker.
The only negative is cost, and that is something you will have to decide.
I am on my third shorai now...
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Post by greenhornet on Jan 25, 2020 15:10:41 GMT -7
I got this one, light weight  -2,5 kg   |
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Post by clayton on Jan 25, 2020 15:31:14 GMT -7
Well, yes, I'm absolutely sure MINE is not an AGM. Maybe it changed after 2017. Or dealer put something else. Will check the part number when I get back home, out of curiosity. But glad to know there's an OEM fitting AGM alternative, in case the Shorai is crazy expensive, or it doesn't crank the engine any better. 2017 use the same YTZ10S AGM Battery!  |
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Post by gunnar on Jan 25, 2020 16:00:05 GMT -7
Oops, another elptxjc faux pax...at this rate he'll never graduate from the Trump School of forum posting  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 22:04:42 GMT -7
The shorai definitely spins up quicker than the OEM battery. I've fitted mine now and am happy with the performance. That's good to hear. Hey, could you please post the exact model you bought, and where you bought it? It'd help a lot. I want to replace mine, but with something that will crank better, and apparently the AGM Yuasa doesn't do that either, so guess will have to be a Li-Ion one. That Li-Ion Aliant is another option. Time to compare costs, specs, and reviews . |
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Post by theculturalattache on Jan 26, 2020 6:06:37 GMT -7
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