jacoby
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Post by jacoby on Nov 11, 2019 19:25:33 GMT -7
Anybody done it? Can it be done?
Id drop some $$$ on a TFT display if I know it would work.
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Post by evitzee on Nov 11, 2019 20:05:59 GMT -7
It's not a plug n' play operation, too many things different between the standard and the SP. You can try it, but prepare to be disappointed.
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jacoby
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Post by jacoby on Nov 11, 2019 20:32:38 GMT -7
It's not a plug n' play operation, too many things different between the standard and the SP. You can try it, but prepare to be disappointed. Besides the active suspension what’s different? |
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Post by evitzee on Nov 11, 2019 20:38:21 GMT -7
One is a USA spec'd bike, the other is a Euro spec'd bike.....there are differences right there beyond the English v metric displays. These things that would appear to be minor for a swap are never easy. I've not heard of any one swapping over to a non-SP bike, but I do not think it will just magically work. You can be the first to pay for a TFT display and just try it.....maybe it will work like magic, but I don't think it will.
As to your original question I don't think anyone can definitively say it will work. |
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Post by jacoby on Nov 12, 2019 5:39:25 GMT -7
One is a USA spec'd bike, the other is a Euro spec'd bike.....there are differences right there beyond the English v metric displays. These things that would appear to be minor for a swap are never easy. I've not heard of any one swapping over to a non-SP bike, but I do not think it will just magically work. You can be the first to pay for a TFT display and just try it.....maybe it will work like magic, but I don't think it will.
As to your original question I don't think anyone can definitively say it will work. Just like your first post, you’re not explaining your answer. You seem content on simply telling me no and sending me on my way but not explaining why you’re telling me no. from all the research I’ve done the bikes are identical besides the active suspension and the dash. It being euro spec’d doesn’t make it any different. They’re still almost identical in form and function. All the read outs on the dash can be changed from C* to F* and kmh to mph and mpg. Instead of the power modes being 1-3 like we’re used to it would be A-C. That’s no big deal. From what I can tell you would need the dash and the throttle side bar assembly since it uses a wheel to scroll and select. Other than that it should absolutely be plug and play. But I’ll be checking with Yamaha on that this week to get a definitive answer. try being more supportive my friend instead of simply saying no. We should be encouraging these types of things not discouraging them. This could be a benefit to all us FZ/MT owners. And don’t worry so much about how I spend my money 👍 |
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Post by madmagpul on Nov 12, 2019 7:26:39 GMT -7
One is a USA spec'd bike, the other is a Euro spec'd bike.....there are differences right there beyond the English v metric displays. These things that would appear to be minor for a swap are never easy. I've not heard of any one swapping over to a non-SP bike, but I do not think it will just magically work. You can be the first to pay for a TFT display and just try it.....maybe it will work like magic, but I don't think it will.
As to your original question I don't think anyone can definitively say it will work. Just like your first post, you’re not explaining your answer. You seem content on simply telling me no and sending me on my way but not explaining why you’re telling me no. from all the research I’ve done the bikes are identical besides the active suspension and the dash. It being euro spec’d doesn’t make it any different. They’re still almost identical in form and function. All the read outs on the dash can be changed from C* to F* and kmh to mph and mpg. Instead of the power modes being 1-3 like we’re used to it would be A-C. That’s no big deal. From what I can tell you would need the dash and the throttle side bar assembly since it uses a wheel to scroll and select. Other than that it should absolutely be plug and play. But I’ll be checking with Yamaha on that this week to get a definitive answer. try being more supportive my friend instead of simply saying no. We should be encouraging these types of things not discouraging them. This could be a benefit to all us FZ/MT owners. And don’t worry so much about how I spend my money 👍 Well sounds like you've already made up your mind. You asked the question and evitzee gave his honest opinion. He's not an engineer at Yamaha, so don't expect a paper on why an experimental process may or may not work. Good luck! |
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Post by jacoby on Nov 12, 2019 7:55:01 GMT -7
Well sounds like you've already made up your mind. You asked the question and evitzee gave his honest opinion. He's not an engineer at Yamaha, so don't expect a paper on why an experimental process may or may not work. Good luck! Im sorry, I just prefer to have some sort of explanation as to why, when someone just comes out and says it won’t work. One is Euro and one is US isn’t enough for me. and I haven’t made up my mind yet as I haven’t spoken with a Yamaha engineer to get a definitive answer. This forum hasn’t exactly been jumping as of late so I thought I’d introduce a subject to get some discussion going. It seemed odd to me that in the time both versions of this bike have been around nobody on here has talked about the possibility of retrofitting the SP display on the non SP bike. I’ll refrain from starting threads in the future since it seems to be a problem |
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Post by gunnar on Nov 12, 2019 8:07:53 GMT -7
How about wiring harness/connectors? Not saying it won't work, but you might have to get more than you thought to plug and play.
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Post by jacoby on Nov 12, 2019 8:56:20 GMT -7
How about wiring harness/connectors? Not saying it won't work, but you might have to get more than you thought to plug and play. It’s possible yes. wonder if someone with a SP could chime in. Maybe get a pic wink wink |
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Post by gunnar on Nov 12, 2019 15:41:44 GMT -7
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Post by uknixter on Nov 12, 2019 20:41:44 GMT -7
I would be curious to see if this would work. Seems like the big issue would be getting it to marry with the ECM - getting the mileage copied over and turning off things lie active suspension etc. 2WDW may have some inside since they are ECM flash experts.
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Post by dkim213 on Nov 12, 2019 22:34:00 GMT -7
Compare the wiring diagrams. This could give you some confidence in the swap.
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Post by vstate60 on Nov 18, 2019 7:39:20 GMT -7
Compare the wiring diagrams. This could give you some confidence in the swap. This would be my next step—^ And thank you for starting a thread...it is dead ‘round these parts and we need all the MT-10 convo we can get. Cheers |
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Post by yankeevol on Jul 8, 2020 18:37:50 GMT -7
Any update? I'm interested in this as well
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Post by hooli on Jul 9, 2020 21:38:15 GMT -7
Any update? I'm interested in this as well Maybe the OP found out it wasn't as easy as he thought and abandoned the project. |
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Post by willl84 on Aug 24, 2020 8:18:09 GMT -7
I just posted my own thread with this same question and then found this - an update would be helpful! I love the color TFT on the SP. Could we also use the color TFT from the US-spec R1M? Again it's got the adjustable Ohlins like the Euro-spec MT-10 SP
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