dashiznit1
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Post by dashiznit1 on Oct 31, 2019 13:58:12 GMT -7
After changing the oil and trying to clean the chain and adjust the tension I'm already completely fed up with not having a center stand.
I first bought a flat lipped swingarm stand that I had to return since it wouldn't fit under the swingarm because of the abs cable. The second one I got, which was the only non china quality spool stand, was very expensive and I also had to buy swingarm spools. Not only was it overpriced but it still gets in the way of working on the rear wheel hardware and takes up precious garage space. It also doesn't lift the front/middle of the bike enough to make maintenance as easy as it should be for a bike with a five digit price tag in 2019.
I haven't been able to find any info on the internet so far but does anyone here have any ideas of a potential mounting point or if anybody has announced development or sales of one? That would be a game changer for this bike.
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dkim213
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Post by dkim213 on Oct 31, 2019 14:18:39 GMT -7
You’re asking for something that not many people want or need.
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Post by gunnar on Oct 31, 2019 14:43:44 GMT -7
It could be done with a decat pipe, just no room with the stock exhaust. It would require the use of most if not all of the stock exhaust mounting points, (if you don't want to touch engine mounts at all) and a LOT of custom fab work. It would be much easier making room in the garage for front/rear stands, or one of the center-lift stands on the market.
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dashiznit1
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Post by dashiznit1 on Oct 31, 2019 15:15:55 GMT -7
You’re asking for something that not many people want or need. So I'm not allowed to be disappointed that I don't have any OEM or aftermarket options for making maintenance and long distance riding a million times easier? |
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Post by evitzee on Oct 31, 2019 15:39:50 GMT -7
Many prior Yamaha naked type sports bikes had center stands (FZ6, FZ1, etc) but the quest for weight and cost savings have axed this feature, not even a Yamaha option for those that wanted to spend the money on this feature. My forward handle Pit Bull stand doesn't get in the way for any maintenance I do (oil changes, chain lube, adjusting). There are other options, like the ABBA system, that may be what you are looking for. But a built in center stand.....no way, Jose.
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Post by dkim213 on Oct 31, 2019 17:50:35 GMT -7
You’re asking for something that not many people want or need. So I'm not allowed to be disappointed that I don't have any OEM or aftermarket options for making maintenance and long distance riding a million times easier? I didn’t say you can’t be disappointed. And it may be ignorance on my end, but I don’t have any issues cleaning my chain with a chinesium rear stand and spools vs center stand (never had one). If the demand isn’t there, it’s not worth integrating it. |
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Post by wodger63 on Oct 31, 2019 19:59:09 GMT -7
I don't know why people don't buy a bike that fits there purpose, as opposed to buying a bike then trying to make it fit their purpose. Then come whinging on a forum how the bike should have this or have that and being "completely fed up" It sounds like a MT-09 Tracer GT would have been more suitable, comes standard with a centre stand, tall screen. Smiley face  means I'm just stirring the pot before anybody gets their knickers in a tangle. |
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Post by dashiznit1 on Nov 1, 2019 6:38:33 GMT -7
I don't know why people don't buy a bike that fits there purpose, as opposed to buying a bike then trying to make it fit their purpose. Then come whinging on a forum how the bike should have this or have that and being "completely fed up" It sounds like a MT-09 Tracer GT would have been more suitable, comes standard with a centre stand, tall screen. Smiley face means I'm just stirring the pot before anybody gets their knickers in a tangle. I'm not sitting here complaining about the bike because it is a beast and I love riding it in the twisties. I just asked a valid question about making it more practical, go figure some people like practicality, and I can't believe people like you are getting triggered from that. The Yamaha 900 triple really doesn't do it for me at all. The engine just seems really clunky and underpowered to me, but I guess you're right that if I can't find a way to make the mt work for my needs I'll probably end up switching over to one unfortunately. If prefer not having to do that though because I really love this bikes power plant and handling. |
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dashiznit1
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Post by dashiznit1 on Nov 1, 2019 6:53:37 GMT -7
Many prior Yamaha naked type sports bikes had center stands (FZ6, FZ1, etc) but the quest for weight and cost savings have axed this feature, not even a Yamaha option for those that wanted to spend the money on this feature. My forward handle Pit Bull stand doesn't get in the way for any maintenance I do (oil changes, chain lube, adjusting). There are other options, like the ABBA system, that may be what you are looking for. But a built in center stand.....no way, Jose. That's fair, guess I'll have to suck it up. Too bad. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 12:33:57 GMT -7
To be honest, with a 55.1" wheelbase, I'd discard that project. The FZ1 has 57.5, which is probably the shortest wheelbase to fit with a center stand. If you were to find one that fits the MT-10 properly (sturdy enough, etc), it probably wouldn't even reach the ground enough to be useful. Furthermore, it'd probably drag way too early, defeating the purpose of the bike. And also look awful. If you really want a center stand, you'll have to look elsewhere. Yamaha moved the FZ/MT-10 into the naked sport category, from the naked sport-touring one of the FZ-1. But if your main issue is parking space, I'm also very limited, which requires parking the bike upright between 2 cars. My solution was a TrackSide wheel chock from Revzilla, which I also use when hauling my bike on my truck's bed. You can buy an even cheaper one if you don't need a very sturdy one. For maintenance I have an Abba stand, which is great. But a much cheaper rear stand with spools serves the same purpose.
As a final thought, I was used to sport-touring bikes (mostly BMWs) with shaft drive, single-sided swing-arm, center stand, heated grips and seat, cruise control, adjustable electronic suspension, etc. I'm missing a lot of that on my FZ-10, meaning a lot more maintenance and inconvenience, but I'm so happy with the bike that I don't mind any of that anymore. This is what I wanted all along, so just learned to live without those conveniences, and actually embrace not having them. You need to either do that, or just move on to something more touring oriented  . Hope you stay in the family, but life's too short to put up with something you don't like . Good luck. |
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Post by RedAndBlack on Nov 2, 2019 14:10:18 GMT -7
I have an SV Racing "center stand" for my track bike. Thing is awesome and gets both tires off the ground so I can easily get warmers on them.
The bike will rock though when doing maintenance so it's not the greatest maintenance stand. I still have pitbull stands for doing maintenance.
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Post by gunnar on Nov 3, 2019 8:10:25 GMT -7
To be honest, with a 55.1" wheelbase, I'd discard that project. The FZ1 has 57.5, which is probably the shortest wheelbase to fit with a center stand. If you were to find one that fits the MT-10 properly (sturdy enough, etc), it probably wouldn't even reach the ground enough to be useful. Furthermore, it'd probably drag way too early, defeating the purpose of the bike. And also look awful. Wheelbase is an invalid argument, there are plenty of bikes, scooters with much shorter wheelbases that have center stands. A center stand is made to reach the ground, and made strong enough to support whatever weight is put on it, or why build it...so your third sentence means nothing. You can make a center stand follow the contours of the swingarm so it won't drag, so your fourth sentence shows further proof of your mechanical ineptitude. Looks mean nothing, it's designed to do a job. Are you really going to not buy a bike because of how it's center stand looks? |
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Post by wodger63 on Nov 3, 2019 20:58:47 GMT -7
I'm not sitting here complaining about the bike I must of misinterpreted " completely fed up" |
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dashiznit1
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Post by dashiznit1 on Nov 4, 2019 9:02:36 GMT -7
I'm not sitting here complaining about the bike I must of misinterpreted " completely fed up"
I think you must have misinterpreted "completely fed up with not having a center stand" as completely fed up with my motorcycle, two completely different statements and an avoidable mix up if you don't cherry pick your quotes.
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Post by mrcdharwood on Nov 4, 2019 10:09:17 GMT -7
You looked at an Abba sports bike stand or even a sky lift. No good other than in your work shop but for maintenance you can't go wrong.
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Post by femanvate on Feb 16, 2020 10:59:46 GMT -7
After a car killed my FZ1, thought I'd be on a new MT10, but the lack of a centerstand is a deal breaker. It was too convenient having the ability to sit on a level stable bike to have lunch, set a camera on a mini tripod, change oil, lube the chain, etc.
I'm part of that small demographic that would gladly give up some cornering clearance for the feature.
I wish Yamaha or a 3rd party would at least offer an option for this, but until then if anyone knows an FZ1 with 0 miles for sale.....
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Post by evitzee on Feb 17, 2020 15:14:47 GMT -7
After a car killed my FZ1, thought I'd be on a new MT10, but the lack of a centerstand is a deal breaker. It was too convenient having the ability to sit on a level stable bike to have lunch, set a camera on a mini tripod, change oil, lube the chain, etc. I'm part of that small demographic that would gladly give up some cornering clearance for the feature. I wish Yamaha or a 3rd party would at least offer an option for this, but until then if anyone knows an FZ1 with 0 miles for sale..... I'm sure there are a few FZ1's out there with almost no mileage on them, you just have to smoke them out. I must say, though, if the lack of a centerstand is a deal breaker for you you will be relegated to the sports tourer/adventure bike group, and I'm not even sure how many of them have a centerstand as an option. It really is a dying feature. Cost and weight savings are big drivers in dropping this feature over the years. They are definitely convenient and worthwhile, but the market says otherwise. |
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Post by pc1978 on Feb 17, 2020 17:06:02 GMT -7
After a car killed my FZ1, thought I'd be on a new MT10, but the lack of a centerstand is a deal breaker. It was too convenient having the ability to sit on a level stable bike to have lunch, set a camera on a mini tripod, change oil, lube the chain, etc. I'm part of that small demographic that would gladly give up some cornering clearance for the feature. I wish Yamaha or a 3rd party would at least offer an option for this, but until then if anyone knows an FZ1 with 0 miles for sale..... I'm sure there are a few FZ1's out there with almost no mileage on them, you just have to smoke them out. I must say, though, if the lack of a centerstand is a deal breaker for you you will be relegated to the sports tourer/adventure bike group, and I'm not even sure how many of them have a centerstand as an option. It really is a dying feature. Cost and weight savings are big drivers in dropping this feature over the years. They are definitely convenient and worthwhile, but the market says otherwise. Yeah, center stand (lack of, no aftermarket) discussion currently going on over on the KTM forum I am on, about the SDGT. Just checked cycle trader, there is a dealer in Reno that is saying they have 3 new FZ1’s in stock: www.michaelsreno.com/default.asp?page=xNewInventory#page=xNewInventory&sq=Fz1Looks like you can pick up a used one for under $5k, under 5k miles, obviously depending on location or travel/shipping distance willingness. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 23:27:53 GMT -7
There's no perfect bike out there, unfortunately. I also wanted a center stand... and a single-sided swingarm... and a shaft, having owned many sport touring bikes. But all of that makes them very heavy, so not as nimble, and with limited cornering clearance in the case of the center stand (as noted). To me, the FZ-10 was everything I wanted on my next bike, even with its 'shortcomings'. But it was very easy to find a solution for the center stand issue: A wheel chock (to park it upright), and an Abba stand, for the maintenance. Problem solved  . Good luck. |
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means I'm just stirring the pot before anybody gets their knickers in a tangle.
. Hope you stay in the family, but life's too short to put up with something you don't like 
. Good luck.