jimmybpetree
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Post by jimmybpetree on Oct 10, 2019 11:02:45 GMT -7
Good afternoon everyone! James B. Petree, 29 From Lago Vista, TX Started riding October 2017, logged 4k miles my first 2 months riding. Fell in love with the life style. - 1) 2007 Yamaha R6, White. Used. Low sided twice, full cosmetic rear swing arm rebuild the first time. Similar event the second time then "gave" it to my best friend for a track bike. (It's pretty now.)
- 2) 2013 Yamaha R6, Black. Used. Low sided once on Palomar Mountain, CA. Couple scratches and broke the right lever and clip on. Hit a rough spot, so I had to sell it =(.
- 3) 2019 Yamaha MT-10, Tech Black. New. 600+ miles. She's my side bitch. The wife (who rides) doesn't care for her.
Any how, I am new here, looking specific mod/fabrication advice for my baby. I have only done an Akra slipon/mid pipe. Since the headers are already titanium, I figured a full Aka exhaust was pointless. I have just reached over 600 miles and the service is done. I'm going to be using this bike for two platforms, mainly hill side and mountain type twisties. My main focus right now is trying to find a decently price/quality pair or rear sets with a solid GP shift conversion, so I can still use the quick shift. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thank you all! James B. Petree Veteran, United States Marine 2019 Yamaha MT-10, Tech Black |
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Post by clayton on Oct 10, 2019 11:35:41 GMT -7
Good afternoon everyone! James B. Petree, 29 From Lago Vista, TX Started riding October 2017, logged 4k miles my first 2 months riding. Fell in love with the life style. - 1) 2007 Yamaha R6, White. Used. Low sided twice, full cosmetic rear swing arm rebuild the first time. Similar event the second time then "gave" it to my best friend for a track bike. (It's pretty now.)
- 2) 2013 Yamaha R6, Black. Used. Low sided once on Palomar Mountain, CA. Couple scratches and broke the right lever and clip on. Hit a rough spot, so I had to sell it =(.
- 3) 2019 Yamaha MT-10, Tech Black. New. 600+ miles. She's my side bitch. The wife (who rides) doesn't care for her.
Any how, I am new here, looking specific mod/fabrication advice for my baby. I have only done an Akra slipon/mid pipe. Since the headers are already titanium, I figured a full Aka exhaust was pointless. I have just reached over 600 miles and the service is done. I'm going to be using this bike for two platforms, mainly hill side and mountain type twisties. My main focus right now is trying to find a decently price/quality pair or rear sets with a solid GP shift conversion, so I can still use the quick shift. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thank you all! James B. Petree Veteran, United States Marine 2019 Yamaha MT-10, Tech Black Welcome from El Campo, Tx. Header pipes are stainless steel. If you haven’t got it flashed yet I recommend 2wheeldynoworks for a ecu flash along with a ftecu active tune. |
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Post by jimmybpetree on Oct 10, 2019 11:51:45 GMT -7
Good afternoon everyone! James B. Petree, 29 From Lago Vista, TX Started riding October 2017, logged 4k miles my first 2 months riding. Fell in love with the life style. - 1) 2007 Yamaha R6, White. Used. Low sided twice, full cosmetic rear swing arm rebuild the first time. Similar event the second time then "gave" it to my best friend for a track bike. (It's pretty now.)
- 2) 2013 Yamaha R6, Black. Used. Low sided once on Palomar Mountain, CA. Couple scratches and broke the right lever and clip on. Hit a rough spot, so I had to sell it =(.
- 3) 2019 Yamaha MT-10, Tech Black. New. 600+ miles. She's my side bitch. The wife (who rides) doesn't care for her.
Any how, I am new here, looking specific mod/fabrication advice for my baby. I have only done an Akra slipon/mid pipe. Since the headers are already titanium, I figured a full Aka exhaust was pointless. I have just reached over 600 miles and the service is done. I'm going to be using this bike for two platforms, mainly hill side and mountain type twisties. My main focus right now is trying to find a decently price/quality pair or rear sets with a solid GP shift conversion, so I can still use the quick shift. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thank you all! James B. Petree Veteran, United States Marine 2019 Yamaha MT-10, Tech Black Welcome from El Campo, Tx. Header pipes are stainless steel. If you haven’t got it flashed yet I recommend 2wheeldynoworks for a ecu flash along with a ftecu active tune. My headers are definitely titanium sir.  |
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Post by clayton on Oct 10, 2019 13:45:38 GMT -7
Here’s a pic of my 2018 with 3/4 yoshi exhaust with the stock stainless headers. Haven’t heard of any changes to the mt10 except for colors on the 2019’s. Our bike do come with a titanium silencer from the factory, but the rest of the exhaust is stainless. What a few have done here is replace there hearders with factory R1 and R1M headers which are titanium from the factory and a direct bolt on.   |
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Post by evitzee on Oct 10, 2019 13:51:21 GMT -7
Welcome, James, I'm from Fredericksburg, TX .... the headers on the stock MT-10 aren't titanium, that's one of the downgrades from the R1. Some people have fitted titanium headers from the R1 to save weight. Ride safe.
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Post by dkim213 on Oct 10, 2019 21:15:03 GMT -7
Hello fellow Marine!
Whenever you get the rearsets, I’d like to know what you think of them.
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Post by nameless on Oct 10, 2019 22:04:46 GMT -7
It's possible that Jimmy's MT-10 has Titanium exhaust pipe comp. But usually, Titanium exhaust pipe comp goes with Yoshi not Akra for 2019 MT-10. Hmm, I am puzzled. Did you pay extra for that Titanium exhaust pipe comp?
Hey Jimmy, why do you want to go with GP shift, if you are going to ride that bike in the twisties? To me it is kind of dangerous. I would not do it. But hey, to each his own. There is a trick to accomplish what you want to do. In a nutshell, you shift the shaft or rod 180 degree.
Here is a video that shows you how to do it (but there is a caveat, if you watch the video): . Hope this is what you are looking for.
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Post by hooli on Oct 11, 2019 5:37:29 GMT -7
If you convert to GP shifting your stock QS will not work since it uses a pull-only sensor. As for "safety" issues, it's perfectly fine for street use. So much easier and more intuitive to simply push your foot down to upshift instead of hooking your toe beneath it and pulling it. Have you tried it? You may be pleasantly surprised.
PS: OP, I can guarantee that your stock headers are stainless steel.
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Post by jimmybpetree on Oct 11, 2019 7:30:28 GMT -7
So, when I was asking the dealership about ordering an Akra exhaust they said, that a "full" Akra exhaust would be a waste of money, because the 2019 has the same titanium exhaust as the R1. When I got home and put my mid and slip on Akra, the color and the later bleuing of the pipes, look just like titanium. I don't know how to scientifically tell the metals apart, but that's what I was told. \_(o.O)_/.
I've been riding GP shift since the beginning. If you're not riding GP shift in the twisties, and this is going to sound stupid, you're more likely to miscalculate a turn, braking point, or have an issue shifting when accelerating out of a turn. Especially if you're coming out of the apex with a increasing radius.
Shift up, by pressing down allows you to keep your center of gravity if you have to shift up when screaming out of the apex. I switched almost immediately when I found out I could do it on my '13 R6. And I never went back. Until I picked up the MT-10.
However, when I got it home, I did do the shift rod flip. I did lose the QS and that did suck, but I QS wit out clutch any how. I do find GP shift a little bit awkward on the Naked bike platform. Still, it's much easier and faster to ride aggressively with GP shift. Because of the flip and losing QS, I put it back to standard and I'm in search of a solid rear-set with two shift rod connection points on the shift arm. I have seen a couple, not impressed with reviews or pricing.
If my headers are in fact not titanium, I would be most definitely interested in grabbing the R1's headers.
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Post by dkim213 on Oct 11, 2019 9:00:03 GMT -7
I've been riding GP shift since the beginning. If you're not riding GP shift in the twisties, and this is going to sound stupid, you're more likely to miscalculate a turn, braking point, or have an issue shifting when accelerating out of a turn. Especially if you're coming out of the apex with a increasing radius. The reasons don’t make sense to me. I can see how you can shift quicker coming out of corners, but I think the majority of cornering mistakes are on corner entry. I think messing up corner exit is usually of no consequence on the street. I’m not sure how your shift pattern affects your braking point and miscalculating the corner. |
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Post by jimmybpetree on Oct 11, 2019 9:41:32 GMT -7
I've been riding GP shift since the beginning. If you're not riding GP shift in the twisties, and this is going to sound stupid, you're more likely to miscalculate a turn, braking point, or have an issue shifting when accelerating out of a turn. Especially if you're coming out of the apex with a increasing radius. The reasons don’t make sense to me. I can see how you can shift quicker coming out of corners, but I think the majority of cornering mistakes are on corner entry. I think messing up corner exit is usually of no consequence on the street. I’m not sure how your shift pattern affects your braking point and miscalculating the corner. -dkim21: If you have ever been to track or been to a motorcycle school, you would have learned how effective engine braking and dropping down two gears maybe three gears can be. It is all dependent on your entrance speed and the moment you choose to execute your turn, into the apex. GP shifting down in gears (lifting up on the shift arm with your toes) can significantly increase your ability slow down, by allowing you a very small contact surface to keep you stuck to your bike. I have see people in standard grab the brake and shift down and slightly come off of their seat. It's all about maintaining your form and center of gravity. I supposed that you may not understand my logic, because maybe you ride leisurely? I do not know. Delayed entry is not reliant on just braking, alone. Depending on the turn, I may drop from 3rd to 1st grab the brake and dump the clutch, kick that back end out just before I dive into the apex. I have a very aggressive and fast riding style. GP is the most effective shifting method, for me I suppose. But again, I have no idea of anyone's experience or riding style on here. -James |
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Post by dkim213 on Oct 11, 2019 9:53:15 GMT -7
The reasons don’t make sense to me. I can see how you can shift quicker coming out of corners, but I think the majority of cornering mistakes are on corner entry. I think messing up corner exit is usually of no consequence on the street. I’m not sure how your shift pattern affects your braking point and miscalculating the corner. -dkim21: If you have ever been to track or been to a motorcycle school, you would have learned how effective engine braking and dropping down two gears maybe three gears can be. It is all dependent on your entrance speed and the moment you choose to execute your turn, into the apex. GP shifting down in gears (lifting up on the shift arm with your toes) can significantly increase your ability slow down, by allowing you a very small contact surface to keep you stuck to your bike. I have see people in standard grab the brake and shift down and slightly come off of their seat. It's all about maintaining your form and center of gravity. I supposed that you may not understand my logic, because maybe you ride leisurely? I do not know. Delayed entry is not reliant on just braking, alone. Depending on the turn, I may drop from 3rd to 1st grab the brake and dump the clutch, kick that back end out just before I dive into the apex. I have a very aggressive and fast riding style. GP is the most effective shifting method, for me I suppose. But again, I have no idea of anyone's experience or riding style on here. -James I have been to a couple schools (California Superbike School at the lowest level and Socal supermoto). They didn’t talk about GP shifting. If I’m getting this right, GP shifting in the canyons is the best approach because you’re less likely to upset the chassis and rider when downshifting before the corner. I don’t ride leisurely, but from the sounds of it, you ride harder than I do by quite a bit. Any chance you have footage I could watch and learn from? I’d like to learn from those who are better. |
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Post by nameless on Oct 11, 2019 10:38:43 GMT -7
Arguing about GP shifting is great in the twisties is pointless. Many factors involve in riding fast in the twisties. To each his own. Some people raving about GP shifting and swear cannot live without it. So, be it then. Try to help the guy out and got sh*t back! Thanks dude!
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Post by jimmybpetree on Oct 11, 2019 10:53:46 GMT -7
I wish I did, but unfortunately I do not. I used my facebook and IG as a photo book, but recently removed all my social media. This is as about as social as I get. I have a lot of personal mental health issues, military related. Social media has just been a negative aspect for me, so I removed it all. I have thought about recording and doing a youtube channel... not sure though. I work 6 weeks on 1 week off. so I don't get much time to get on the horse in the last couple months. but I do plan to record a little. I will definitely upload them and attach the links here.
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Post by jimmybpetree on Oct 11, 2019 11:02:07 GMT -7
Arguing about GP shifting is great in the twisties is pointless. Many factors involve in riding fast in the twisties. To each his own. Some people raving about GP shifting and swear cannot live without it. So, be it then. Try to help the guy out and got sh*t back! Thanks dude! I don't recall anyone arguing about GP shifting. I was asked why I wanted to have GP, so I answered and we continued our conversation. Do you have any input on the situation? |
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Post by hooli on Oct 11, 2019 11:08:22 GMT -7
The dealership said this? Well then that explains everything.  J/k, most dealerships are woefully ignorant of the very products they push. I can assure you that your Akra midpipe is titanium though. Internally, the titanium headers have smoother transitional welds which do help exhaust flow just a hair. The main advantage is that when the metal undergoes several heat cycles it turns into that beautiful array of prismatic colors associated with performance exhausts. Some owners even take the time to wet-sand and polish their headers to make it a real head turner.     ![]() |
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Post by jimmybpetree on Oct 11, 2019 11:45:14 GMT -7
Is that your bike hooli ? What rear sets do you have? |
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Post by bruce on Oct 11, 2019 12:00:43 GMT -7
The only advantage I can see to race shift is that you don't have to get your toe under the lever for an upshift while leaned over and don't have much ground clearance...
No benefit whatsoever for road riding...
No problem using it either, if that's what your used to...
Keep the standard shift pattern on my track bike, just know that if I change it over I'm gonna mess up my gear shifts from years of muscle memory...
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Post by hooli on Oct 11, 2019 16:43:46 GMT -7
Is that your bike hooli ? What rear sets do you have? Not mine, but I have some ti headers in my spare bin that may see mounting up this winter. |
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J/k, most dealerships are woefully ignorant of the very products they push. I can assure you that your Akra midpipe is titanium though. 