fastfed
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Post by fastfed on Aug 20, 2019 17:16:04 GMT -7
So went home from work, completely loosened the clutch adjustment on the lever and started over, slowly going until I had about 2 credit cards worth of slack. It's now perfect, engages much lower and really perfect.
Now about the throttle, I have what looks to be the right amount of free play there, but damn is it a little jerky for you guys? I've heard other people complain about this because of the fly by wire system.
I also need to figure out if my tune is right or not, it still has that idle issue and under 6k rpm if I hold the throttle a certain way that rpm flutter can be felt with acceleration.
Is it possible the butterfly valve is not working right or working at all? how would I know? would a light come on even with aftermarket exhuast
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mrcdharwood
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Post by mrcdharwood on Aug 24, 2019 11:38:52 GMT -7
Clutch, get some span adjustable levers.
Throttle, get a throttle tamer. It's an aluminium throttle sleeve with a cam profile that effectively mechanically desensitises the first 10 ton15% of throttle opening. G2 Ergonomics do them.
Sorted 👍🏼
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fastfed
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Post by fastfed on Aug 29, 2019 6:26:19 GMT -7
I saw some info on this aluminium sleeve thing. Is it really that good? Does it help with switching gears to make it more smoothly. I feel the throttle is a little jerky
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mrcdharwood
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Post by mrcdharwood on Aug 30, 2019 2:55:07 GMT -7
Does nothing to help gear shift.
It's a cam profile throttle sleeve that will reduces the twitchiness if the early throttle opening.
It helps with low speed low revs riding making it less on off.
It's no substitute for a flash and at about $80 isn't massively cheap, but cheaper than a flash.
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Post by superspirit on Aug 30, 2019 5:37:35 GMT -7
Im running the g2 throttle tube on my fz10 and the wife's mt09, I have found that the tube does more to fix the choppiness of the throttle than the flash. My fz10 is flashed and the wife's mt09 is not.
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fastfed
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Post by fastfed on Aug 31, 2019 7:53:10 GMT -7
yep so is mine, and has that autotune on it, 2wheel dyno works did the flash apparently.I just never had the bike stock so I have no clue what to compare it to. Other than my old 06 gsxr 1k . Which maybe I was just so used to it, but damn was it smoother down low. slower down low too, but for sure smoother.
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vstate60
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Post by vstate60 on Sept 6, 2019 3:07:02 GMT -7
FWIW I always upgrade my rider as opposed to changing things until I’m just convinced it’s my size/etc getting in the way. For instance, your right wrist-to-brain connection needs a few hours of training rather than upgrading the bike. You’ll chase your tail and it’ll nearly always be the bike’s fault or ‘I just need that new whiz bang XYZ to fix it’.
Just by reading this thread—there’s absolutely nothing on your bike that needs fixing, just the mindset of the pilot! Hope you don’t take my two cents the wrong way & hope this helps!
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mrcdharwood
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Post by mrcdharwood on Sept 6, 2019 10:47:45 GMT -7
Nope. Throttle is harsh as ass. It's the fuel map in the closed loop part of the map and the immediate cut off of fuel on throttle closing to met emission regs.
It's especially noticeable of you come from a bike with carbs.
No rider mindset will get round that fact.
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fastfed
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Post by fastfed on Sept 6, 2019 14:23:19 GMT -7
Nope. Throttle is harsh as ass. It's the fuel map in the closed loop part of the map and the immediate cut off of fuel on throttle closing to met emission regs. It's especially noticeable of you come from a bike with carbs. No rider mindset will get round that fact. is this why its hard to get smooth shifts? I feel like I've gotten more used to it and better but I swear sometimes I switch gears and its like an off switch and a jolt when switching. Unless I use the quick shifter its hard getting perfect shifts |
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Post by vstate60 on Sept 6, 2019 19:25:04 GMT -7
Nope. Throttle is harsh as ass. It's the fuel map in the closed loop part of the map and the immediate cut off of fuel on throttle closing to met emission regs. It's especially noticeable of you come from a bike with carbs. No rider mindset will get round that fact. My bone stock ‘19 MT-10 runs absolutely perfect, isn’t jerky, no issue with mapping at all——is it my skill or did I get the only bike Yamaha made that works? Edit: When we aren’t comfortable or immediately good at something we often look for the simplest path to explain to ourselves (and obviously others) why we’re failing...or not meeting the mark. This comes in the form of excuses: The bike isn’t right. The tune is poor. The manufacturer screwed up. The tuner company sucks. The suspension guy messed up my settings. Etc etc etc. Trust me...when I read folks’ reviews about the MT-10 I was nervous about the throttle response and which mode to use. I decided to feel it out on the 2nd ride ever and turn TC off and put it in Mode 1 (most aggressive in the ‘19MY) and I realized that it’s just like the guys riding INT at track days: It’s you, not the bike. Every bike is different and there are things to get used to, no doubt. I promise it’s more rider training and less spending money on things to work around your lack of skill. No disrespect meant. Trying to save y’all money! |
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Post by nameless on Sept 8, 2019 7:38:29 GMT -7
Hey fastfed, MT-10 is like a wild horse, it requires time to tame it. Compare to my ZX14R and S1000RR, MT-10 is NOT a friendly bike. I think most people like this bike it's because of that MT-10 wild factor. If I were you, instead of spending tons of money or tinkering with adjustments, I would experiment with the TCS and DM to see which setting is the best for your riding style. For me, since, day one, TCS = 1 and DM = 1. Also, you need to practice your throttle and clutch control. As vstate60 has stated there is nothing wrong with MT-10. CAUTION: MT-10 can really screw you badly if you don’t know what you are doing. This is because MT-10 has more power and torque on the lower end, it’s designed this way.
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