icepik
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Post by icepik on Apr 14, 2019 17:12:49 GMT -7
Decided to get the bike out of storage yesterday and had my battery on my smart charger and it was charged up, upon hooking up my battery for some reason I wasn't thinking and hooked my negative first, then my positive, got a spark and heard my servo motor kick in (this was with the key out of the ignition). Thought it was odd and finished tightening down the terminals to the battery. Put the key in, and nothing at all. No lights, no dash, nothing....Immediately grabbed my multi-meter and tested the battery, it's putting out a little over 12v so it seems okay and nothing draining the battery. Checked my 50A fuse and it's burnt...Can't say I've ever seen that before. Continued checking the two 30A fuses that are close in proximity and they are good. Dealer was closed today, so I'm headed there tomorrow sometime to see if they have one in stock. Seems like it's used in almost every Yamaha bike, so I'm hoping they have one in stock, and I'm crossing my fingers there isn't something more serious going on....Ugh
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 13:41:31 GMT -7
Sorry to hear that, brother. Sounds like you knew not to do that, so were you distracted with music, a phone call, etc? It's distracting, even if some folks say it's not. I don't do any of that anymore; stop what I'm doing if I need to take a call. I enjoy working on my vehicles without any such distracitons. In fact, working on them is my distraction. Ha ha. Hey, at least you didn't reverse the polarities, or your ECU would be toast for sure. Hopefully just the main fuse. Good luck, and keep us posted.
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icepik
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Post by icepik on Apr 15, 2019 17:10:03 GMT -7
Yeah, no idea what I was doing at the time to be honest...just rushing and not paying attention...Got the 50A fuse replacement today and installed it, reconnected the battery and everything looked good on the dash, hit the starter and it started but was barely idling, went to give it some throttle and nothing....Bike eventually stopped so I checked to make sure all my controls were functioning, signals, breaks, modes, TCS, etc...all working. Pulled the battery and the front scoop off the side of the bike and started testing the remaining fuses. What would ya know...The 7.5A electronic throttle valve fuse was blown. Luckily had a spare, so I popped that in and she's alive again. Glad it was only a couple of fuses. I'll definitely keep an eye on it as I've never had this happen before with any bikes I've ever owned, but again, was no doubt me shorting something out connecting the battery.
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Post by evitzee on Apr 15, 2019 20:28:09 GMT -7
Good that you got everything running again. Surprised that the main 50A fuse and the 7.5A fuse both blew. The only time I disconnect the battery is to change it out, will remember to be extra careful when it fails.
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icepik
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Post by icepik on Apr 16, 2019 5:07:39 GMT -7
Unfortunately, bike ends up in storage for about 5 months of the year just due to the weather around here. I always prep it for winter storage (stays in my shed), and pull the battery to keep it my basement at room temperature throwing it on the smart charger every 4 weeks or so to keep the charge good on it.
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Post by evitzee on Apr 16, 2019 11:39:27 GMT -7
Unfortunately, bike ends up in storage for about 5 months of the year just due to the weather around here. I always prep it for winter storage (stays in my shed), and pull the battery to keep it my basement at room temperature throwing it on the smart charger every 4 weeks or so to keep the charge good on it. I can ride year round (Texas) but in the winter, and if I go away for a month or so, it may sit for a couple of months. I dose the fuel with Fuel Med Rx (Yamaha product), but the battery is on the smart charger year round. As soon as I clean the bike and roll it into the garage it gets hooked up to the charger. I find the battery will last a long time if always on a smart charger. If you remove the battery in the winter for temperature reasons I'd hook it up and just leave it, no damage will occur and it is better for the battery to stay fully charged rather than letting it discharge between boosts.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2019 21:36:18 GMT -7
Hey Icepik, glad to hear all is well now. And yes, before a 50A fuse blows, other smaller ones can blow first. Hey, there's no need to remove the battery, especially on a bike with no parasitic loads. I always charge my batteries every 2 weeks or so, but for some reason, I prefer not to leave them connected permanently to a smart charger when I'm around. But I guess that's better than not charging them at all. Anyway, what I always do to my bikes (and most vehicles) since day 1 is to install a SAE pigtail, so I don't have to remove seats or open hoods to charge the batteries. I routed the one on this bike next to the brake lines behind the rear brake reservoir; it's basically invisible. I used the Battery Tender outdoor pigtail for this bike, since it's pretty thin. On the cars, I prefer the Optimate ones, but both are waterproof with their caps on. Hope this helps.
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Post by twistydave on May 6, 2019 11:09:07 GMT -7
Same thing happened to me. Now I have an engine light on. Feeling pretty ridiculous. I replace the same 50amp main fuse and 7.5 throttle fuse. The dealer said it is a Hard code and they have to reset it for $105 plus tax and labor. My question is can I by a diagnostic code reader and reset it myself? The dealer said they cost thousands of dollars. because it's the "new one" just for the 2017 Fz 10. The bike appears to ride fine. Ya'll have any advise? Thanks.
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Post by superspirit on May 6, 2019 13:11:22 GMT -7
Same thing happened to me. Now I have an engine light on. Feeling pretty ridiculous. I replace the same 50amp main fuse and 7.5 throttle fuse. The dealer said it is a Hard code and they have to reset it for $105 plus tax and labor. My question is can I by a diagnostic code reader and reset it myself? The dealer said they cost thousands of dollars. because it's the "new one" just for the 2017 Fz 10. The bike appears to ride fine. Ya'll have any advise? Thanks. Yes, you can buy an obd2 to Yamaha adapter on eBay for around $30 then all you need is a generic obd2 scanner that you can buy at Sears for around $30 and your good to go. Several articles on here about that. Even a thread to make your own adapter. Try a search.
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icepik
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Post by icepik on May 11, 2019 13:21:05 GMT -7
Same thing happened to me. Now I have an engine light on. Feeling pretty ridiculous. I replace the same 50amp main fuse and 7.5 throttle fuse. The dealer said it is a Hard code and they have to reset it for $105 plus tax and labor. My question is can I by a diagnostic code reader and reset it myself? The dealer said they cost thousands of dollars. because it's the "new one" just for the 2017 Fz 10. The bike appears to ride fine. Ya'll have any advise? Thanks. I got myself a standard OBDII reader. I'm just waiting for the 4-pin connector I ordered off ebay and will be following one of the articles here to make a DIY harness to read my codes and then turn off the check engine light. My bike seems to work perfectly fine too (I did a 350km run with the CEL on last weekend). I'll update my post when I get mine turned off. I figured I'd invest in the OBDII scanner since I can't be running to the dealer for that ridiculous fee for what constitutes as probably 5 minutes of their time.
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Post by twistydave on May 21, 2019 7:02:09 GMT -7
Same thing happened to me. Now I have an engine light on. Feeling pretty ridiculous. I replace the same 50amp main fuse and 7.5 throttle fuse. The dealer said it is a Hard code and they have to reset it for $105 plus tax and labor. My question is can I by a diagnostic code reader and reset it myself? The dealer said they cost thousands of dollars. because it's the "new one" just for the 2017 Fz 10. The bike appears to ride fine. Ya'll have any advise? Thanks. I got myself a standard OBDII reader. I'm just waiting for the 4-pin connector I ordered off ebay and will be following one of the articles here to make a DIY harness to read my codes and then turn off the check engine light. My bike seems to work perfectly fine too (I did a 350km run with the CEL on last weekend). I'll update my post when I get mine turned off. I figured I'd invest in the OBDII scanner since I can't be running to the dealer for that ridiculous fee for what constitutes as probably 5 minutes of their time. Hey Icepik, Did you get the check engine light off? I order an adapter 4-pen off ebay ; waiting for it to arrive. What app do you use to read/ reset the codes?
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icepik
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Post by icepik on May 24, 2019 9:34:46 GMT -7
Still waiting for my 4-pin connector to arrive unfortunately
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Post by csmith52016 on Jun 18, 2019 17:38:09 GMT -7
How do you take off the left scoop? I tried taking out the two hex screws and push pin, but I cannot get the scoop to come loose. I am afraid of breaking something.
I just did the same thing, because I put the battery in backwards and was rushing through it. I replaced the 50 amp fuse, but can’t get it to start. It try’s to but doesn’t start up.
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Post by twistydave on Jun 18, 2019 18:17:28 GMT -7
The direction are in the manual which can be found on this site. I struggled with it to. There is a push pen inside. It doesn’t need to be forced
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Post by csmith52016 on Jun 28, 2019 21:57:50 GMT -7
Icepick- did you ever receive the four pin connector and turn the check engine light off?
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Post by maadi on Jul 5, 2019 18:26:34 GMT -7
How do you take off the left scoop? I tried taking out the two hex screws and push pin, but I cannot get the scoop to come loose. I am afraid of breaking something. I just did the same thing, because I put the battery in backwards and was rushing through it. I replaced the 50 amp fuse, but can’t get it to start. It try’s to but doesn’t start up. You mean two push pins? 😊
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