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Post by aavmann on Apr 10, 2019 6:08:06 GMT -7
Hello all... Based on the several options that the FZ/MT10 offer regarding power delivery and traction control, curious as to what most riders have generally settled into on average. I'm sure that most will switch back and forth depending on the riding/road conditions but in general...what do you leave it on for the majority of the time?
I know that the mode settings are different depending on the year of the bike but the end result is the same.
CHEERS!
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Post by clayton on Apr 10, 2019 6:26:09 GMT -7
Hello all... Based on the several options that the FZ/MT10 offer regarding power delivery and traction control, curious as to what most riders have generally settled into on average. I'm sure that most will switch back and forth depending on the riding/road conditions but in general...what do you leave it on for the majority of the time? I know that the mode settings are different depending on the year of the bike but the end result is the same. CHEERS! On my 18 TC 1 and power mode 1
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Post by mtate on Apr 10, 2019 9:39:07 GMT -7
Hello all... Based on the several options that the FZ/MT10 offer regarding power delivery and traction control, curious as to what most riders have generally settled into on average. I'm sure that most will switch back and forth depending on the riding/road conditions but in general...what do you leave it on for the majority of the time? I know that the mode settings are different depending on the year of the bike but the end result is the same. CHEERS! I previously rode in mode 1 with TC either off or set on 1. Just recently switched to using mode 2 so I could get more comfortable with 1st gear wheelies. In my opinion the wheel comes up much much smoother in mode 2.
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Post by RedAndBlack on Apr 10, 2019 10:09:43 GMT -7
TC2 and Mode 2 (A).
I only ride canyons and pretty aggressively and I hardly ever notice any interruption of either if you're riding like you're supposed to be with smooth throttle inputs. While the TC has seemingly saved my ass when hitting dirt patches. The modes don't hold back power input, they just affect the throttle response. So A mode is good for when you want to have good throttle response while hoping to avoid tire spin.
I recommend most do the same. You shouldn't look at the electronic assists as crutches or limitations. Look at them as there to save your ass when something unexpected comes along.
A lot of ya'll probably know that infamous video of that dude on the FZ driving off the cliff. Even though it probably wouldn't have made a difference in that situation, one of the most glaring things that occurred to me in that video was why would somebody has obviously under skilled as that guy was with his shitty throttle control and lines, be running TC1 in B mode in the canyons. You spent all this money on a bike with a superior electronics package to not use it? I mean isn't that the main justification for getting an FZ10 over an FZ9? It was for me.
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Post by mikemt on Apr 10, 2019 11:07:50 GMT -7
got all this to look forward to, am still on running in mode
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Post by achrista on Apr 10, 2019 18:57:40 GMT -7
TC2 and Mode 2 (A). I only ride canyons and pretty aggressively and I hardly ever notice any interruption of either if you're riding like you're supposed to be with smooth throttle inputs. While the TC has seemingly saved my ass when hitting dirt patches. The modes don't hold back power input, they just affect the throttle response. So A mode is good for when you want to have good throttle response while hoping to avoid tire spin. I recommend most do the same. You shouldn't look at the electronic assists as crutches or limitations. Look at them as there to save your ass when something unexpected comes along. A lot of ya'll probably know that infamous video of that dude on the FZ driving off the cliff. Even though it probably wouldn't have made a difference in that situation, one of the most glaring things that occurred to me in that video was why would somebody has obviously under skilled as that guy was with his shitty throttle control and lines, be running TC1 in B mode in the canyons. You spent all this money on a bike with a superior electronics package to not use it? I mean isn't that the main justification for getting an FZ10 over an FZ9? It was for me. Totally agree. I pulled out into a turn too quickly on my r6 with cold tires in early spring and lost traction once. Just a lapse in judgement on my end. I had to slam my foot down to keep from dropping the bike, and the rear set did a number on my calf. I could barely walk for a few days it was so badly bruised. Similar scenario on my mt10 and the TC kicked in with no issues.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 22:44:22 GMT -7
I've been using mine in the default modes (STD and TC2), and it's just about perfect for me. I just came back from trashing a BMW S1000RR in a 2-day camp at Laguna Seca for the second time, but there's no need for more aggressive modes at street pace IMO. Super precise throttle control in that mode; I like to ride super smoothly. No wheelies or any other hooligan behavior for this 'old-fart' (57) though , but still tackle the twisties aggressively (but with a safety margin). I just don't rocket from corner to corner, like at the track. More like what Nick Ienatsch calls 'the pace'.
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Post by aavmann on Apr 30, 2019 9:55:03 GMT -7
Hello guys.... Interesting how there are several threads with a ton of views but little to no responses. Take this poll for example... 199 views and only 6 replies? Really? On a simple poll that you just have click a button!?Knowledge is power, sharing is caring.. Let's all do our part to share what we know and love about the FZ/MT..Pull what you need to help you out from the forum...but throw us a bone once in a while too...everyone's input is valued in ALL the threads on this forum.... Thanks in advance Cheers!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 10:46:30 GMT -7
Deleted due to wrong info.
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Post by jroc on Apr 30, 2019 14:31:05 GMT -7
I ride with Mode1 and TC2.
Mode1 is quite a bit smoother since I flashed my ECU, and the autoblipper seems to operate better on this setting. For my riding style, even on track, TC2 doesn't feel too intrusive at all. It even allows for shenanigans like power wheelies.
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Post by superspirit on Apr 30, 2019 14:33:30 GMT -7
I think the pole is layed out correctly to cover the change in modes between the years. I always ride in B which is there performance mode for 2017 model year. Tc 1
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Post by aavmann on Apr 30, 2019 20:13:49 GMT -7
I already voted, but wanted to point out maybe why many haven't voted: the poll is conflicting on the riding modes (and yes, the manual is too, since my bike doesn't have modes 1,2,3, but rather A,STD,B). So I probably voted wrong, since I'm the only vote with 'STD' mode and 'TC2'... but the OP probably meant for my vote to be cast as '2' with 'TC2', which has the most votes by far. Therefore, I suggest OP changes the poll to reflect the way modes should be, which is this: Mode 1 = A = most aggressive Mode 2 = STD = middle mode Mode 3 = B = least aggressive (rain, etc) As far as T/C modes, for those who don't remember, in order of least intervention, they are: TC OFF, 1, 2, and 3. Since I'm quite sure the factory default is what most people use, and what I use, will change my vote for 2/A mode, which should be changed for 2/STD mode. Hmmmm. I know the 2018 is programmed as 1 being most aggressive down to 2 then lastly 3 (rain mode) And from what I have been reading the 2017 is B most aggressive followed by A then STD for rain..... I believe my OP is written to combine these correctly...am I missing something? You mentioned the manual being incorrect? That's not good! So my pick points are incorrect? Wasn't meant to confuse. I can remove altogether as the activity was minimal in the first place. No worries. Thanks.
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Post by exuptoy on Apr 30, 2019 23:29:23 GMT -7
I picked 2/2 on my 18 MT-10 in the UK although not 95% of the time, more like 50/50 with 1/1 being the other choice but 2/2 can allow a little finesse with the bike allowing me to ride semi sensible without coming up in 1/2/3 and sometimes in 4th! Sometimes that just suits me though too
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 16:02:48 GMT -7
Hmmmm. I know the 2018 is programmed as 1 being most aggressive down to 2 then lastly 3 (rain mode) And from what I have been reading the 2017 is B most aggressive followed by A then STD for rain. Hey, you're mostly correct. I apologize for the confusion. I was referring to the .pdf manual I have (which states 1,2,3, hence being 'wrong'), but turns out it's not for my bike. Pulled the actual (paper) manual, and the order is what you have (STD,A,B). But I said you were 'mostly correct' because STD mode is not a rain mode at all. The description says it's an 'all around mode, from mild to aggressive riding'. I've never tried the others since that mode is aggressive enough already. Throttle blips are immediate, and throttle control perfect for me. B mode must be like a light switch. Ha ha. Not for me. Finally, my guess is that Yamaha changed the drive mode maps for 2018, AND the stupid nomenclature (for an equally confusing one. Ha ha). But until someobdy who has ridden both years can chime in, it's just speculation on my part. For now, I changed my vote again to STD/3/TC-2, although I very much doubt rain mode is as aggressive as my STD, but until he hear from somebody, I'll assume that . If it turns out STD=2, then you'd have to change your list (in descending order) for B, 1A, 2/STD, and 3(rain). What a mess. Ha ha. Sorry again for the wrong information. I already deleted that post.
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Post by aavmann on May 1, 2019 17:05:08 GMT -7
Lol. No apology necessary. I just did not want to make this a mode salad but just a general.... "hey' I ride in this mode". As an FYI. I made the assumption that 3 and STD are "rain" modes but let's be real.... the bike hauls ass in every mode given...."rain" mode simply means.... lowest setting... white knuckles.... chillax on the throttle... lol
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 17:29:01 GMT -7
So maybe they're the same then . I never like changing throttle maps on any vehicle, so once I like one, it stays there 'forever'. He he. And the good news is my bike has a mode I like, so no complaints from me.
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Post by daveinwoodland on May 4, 2019 9:51:02 GMT -7
I'm in the Mode 2 TC 2 group. I think that has allot to do with our sense of balance in our minds number wise.
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Post by thefinn on May 8, 2019 13:52:40 GMT -7
TC 2 all the time. Never had it kick in when i dont want to, and i dont do wheelies unless they are accidental smooth power whelies.
Mode 2 about 90% of the time, switch it to 3 when it rains and 1 when i want to blast in a straight like, feelinf what i put my money on. I also do launches in mode 1, feel like i cant nail the <5000 rpm in mode 2 without reving the bike obnoxiously. For some reason i dont like to rev bikes when they are not in a gear (unless a kid is looking while im riding by, its like you are required by law to give them a rev).
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Post by tangor on May 29, 2019 12:06:14 GMT -7
Level 2 on both for my ‘18. Gives me the power delivery that meets my needs.
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Post by lotust251 on Jun 22, 2019 6:34:14 GMT -7
mode 2 TC 2 , never tried mode 1 yet. Race mode.
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