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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 17:56:11 GMT -7
Just got the seat (finally. It was backordered forever). But baffled why the same base (identical P/N on stock seat) yields so different fit at the front. There's a horrible gap all around the tank, so the seat is actually shorter somehow. Plus the curvature is all wrong, so the edges are way 'pointier' than stock, reaching much less at the ends (the panel end cavities for the seat are now exposed), and the gap at the middle of the seat to tank larger. Now I understand why the comfort seats I saw for sale had holes at the edges, so it's not an anomaly of my seat. I had to basically force it in place. The pressure is so great at the corners that they push the panels in, creaking in protest. And the seat creaks/squeaks like crazy once latched. Not nice. Tried for a while forcing those edges out, but they go back to normal. Guess will have to live with it, but it shouldn't be the case. Will buy some clearbra and install it there, at least to prevent messing up the panel's paint. And maybe lube it a little to prevent damage (or at least delay it) to the seat, and the squeaking. And might have to put something behind the panels to prevent the creaking. I'm used to having to modify aftermarket parts, but not OEM ones. Oh well. Just wanted to give the rest of the gang a heads up. And no, can't return it because it was a 'special order'. Having said that, my seat already shows wear at the edges, so might have been a return, albeit with a hefty restocking fee. Oh well. Will put my stocker for sale on the classifieds, since I need the marginal height increase of the comfort seat for my knees; otherwise, I'd sell the comfort one. Have a great weekend gang.
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mtneer
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Post by mtneer on Dec 2, 2018 9:20:11 GMT -7
On mine I put the soft side of some adhesive Velcro on on the corners that are prone to wear so far so good, been on for close to 2k miles, you may want to see if there is anyone local who could redo the stock seat or try the seat concepts cover, then sell which ever one you like best.
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Post by uknixter on Dec 2, 2018 11:19:08 GMT -7
I had the comfort seat for a while. It was an improvement over stock, but still not what I was looking for. I bit the bullet and bought a Corbin Gunfighter and now I’m very happy with it. It is a huge improvement over stock, much more comfortable with zero fitment issues. I know a lot of people are not fans of Corbin. I had one on my R1 that was no better than stock, felt like I spent a lot of money for a leather cover. I think you are limited on what you can do for a race replica with a thin sat. That said, I’ve had one on several other bikes that have been awesome.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 15:32:02 GMT -7
Okay guys; thank you very much for the suggestions. First of all, the Corbin is not for me, since it's significantly taller than stock, and I can't swing that with my 31" inseam. I'm barely comfortable with the comfort seat. It's only marginally higher in the middle, but still can touch with the ball of my feet. Hope it's a bit taller when properly seated (haven't ridden on it yet), to relieve my knees a bit. Since it's softer, it's obviously not as taller as it seems, due to compressing more under weight than the harder stock unit (even with my 165#), but was looking for just a little. On previous bikes, even 1/2" difference was huge help, and I'm sure I'm where I need to be now. On my only long trip, even after not riding for 3 years, my knees were better than any other time, with minimal discomfort at the end of a long day in the saddle (perfectly normal). Anyway, I'm happy with the seat now, but had to do a lot of work. The hardest part was to adjust the latch, since the seat was loose at the back (that was the case with the stock too), which involved adding shims underneath the latch (needs to be removed), which was a PITA. After much trial and error, worked perfectly. Now have to push the seat to latch it, but not hard. Also tightened all fasteners involved with the latch as far forward as possible, and now the gap between seat and tank is acceptable. The final adjustment was at the front. For some reason, the comfort seat sits higher than stock, meaning the rubber stops are not touching down. So every time you sit on it, it moves down until they touch, and THAT is the main reason the seat wears out and squeaks. Yes, the curvature is tighter than stock (still can't figure why), as I mentioned before. But it wouldn't wear the corners out if the seat didn't move up and down that much constantly. I fixed both issues. First, put rags between tank and corners of the seat for days, forcing the seat out, and even though they went back to normal, the pressure is now less. And second, found a thick washer that fit under the steel rest, where the front of the seat prong goes into, clamped it at one end with vise grips, grinded it at 45º at the other end, cut it in the middle, then glued it under the steel part with SuperGlue (with 45º edge to the front, so the seat could just slide under it). Finally, as suggested above, added 2 little strips of black industrial Velcro I had left over from the BedRug carpet bedliner install on my new truck, at the very edge of the tank panel, where the seat was touching and squeaking. It worked like a charm. I have to push the seat at the front in order to engage the prong, but now the seat is solid both in front and at the back when installed, like it should. No more movement when pushed down at either end. Maybe there's a hair in front, but can't feel it now, so minimal. And with the velcro in place, hopefully it won't wear out over time, especially with hardly any movement and less pressure . Hope this helps gang.
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ignalex
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Post by ignalex on Dec 17, 2018 16:09:51 GMT -7
@elptxjc can you tell me how much higher (by the feeling of if > reaching the ground) comfort seat relatively to original? I know it is higher but also softer. on the standard seat I am at the very limit (with my short legs haha), want to get the comfort one before going for 2 weeks ride, but need to be sure I can handle it. guys who sell this stuff are quite far from me - to go test myself will take half day. cheers mate Alex
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2018 16:41:18 GMT -7
Hey brother, haven't ridden with the new seat yet, but when I get home, let me get the bike off the front chock, put my riding boots, and try it out for you, to be able to tell you how taller I feel it. But even on the front chock, it didn't feel that much higher than stock, so I can tell you it'll be very little. And once seated at the back, it should be at least 1/2" higher than stock, which is what I wanted, since I'm also at the limit of safe touching with the stock seat, but need a bit of knee relief. Will report results soon.
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ignalex
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Post by ignalex on Dec 18, 2018 2:37:45 GMT -7
thanks mate
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2018 12:37:49 GMT -7
Forgot to try this until I saw your message now. Sorry. Well, just did it, and I can tell you I felt zero difference. I'm still on the ball of my feet with about 1" from flat-footing. If anything, it's millimeters difference, so I feel very confident recommending the comfort seat to my inseam-challenged brothers . Remember I forced down my seat with a thick washer under the metal tongue on the bike, to avoid wearing the seat at the edges every time you sit on it (part of my 'fit' complaint), with its annoying squeaking... but you'd push it down with your weight anyway, so it shouldn't make a difference in clearance; It'd just look a bit taller than mine. What remains to be seen is if the comfort seat adds any seat-to-peg distance, but looking at both seats, it seems to be the case, since the comfort one is flat at the front, but ramps up a little towards the rear, where the stock one ramps up at the tank, then goes flat. The comfort is softer, so it compressses more than the rock-hard stock for sure, but it seems to be a bit taller when sitting. Hope it's at least 1/2" to provide some relief to my knees, which is what I wanted: same reach at the front, but a bit more knee relief when riding, while definitely being more comfortable. That's exactly what I wanted. The reskinning of the stock seat was never an option for me, and the super heavy Corbin is waaaay taller than I need, so this one was my only choice. After the modifications I made to my seat, there's zero squeaking, and hardly any movement when seating on it, so the edges shouldn't wear at all. The gap at the tank is minimal too now, so happy with the fit and look of the new seat, with no more tumor. He he. Hope this helps brother.
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Post by ignalex on Dec 18, 2018 14:15:22 GMT -7
thanks mate for such a detail info. I will def go for one. cheers! ... later got one and you right > height is same as original. good one!
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