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Post by clayton on Nov 17, 2018 18:07:09 GMT -7
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Post by evitzee on Nov 17, 2018 19:34:47 GMT -7
Completely legit...bought my policy last year for that price. You'll get the official Yamaha paperwork and registration Y.E.S. documentation, they are Yamaha dealers. Buy with confidence and save $$$$
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Post by clayton on Nov 17, 2018 20:16:54 GMT -7
Completely legit...bought my policy last year for that price. You'll get the official Yamaha paperwork and registration Y.E.S. documentation, they are Yamaha dealers. Buy with confidence and save $$$$ So you bought yours from them also?
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Post by evitzee on Nov 17, 2018 20:19:22 GMT -7
Yes, off of eBay.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2018 23:13:47 GMT -7
That sounds like a great deal, especially if it's transferrable, and with no extra fees. But may I ask if the extended warranty is actually such, and offered and backed by Yamaha, or simply a third party service contract, like the great majority of such offerings? In addition, is the 4 years total, or after the factory warranty expires? I still have 10 months to think about it .
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Post by landmark518 on Nov 19, 2018 9:39:03 GMT -7
I purchase the same warranty thru eBay from Fremont Motorsports last year. Its legit.
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Post by evitzee on Nov 19, 2018 12:11:47 GMT -7
It's the official Yamaha Y.E.S. warranty, no third party warranty. No deductible, and the 4 years is in addition to the 1 year factory warranty, so a total of 5 years. Save money and buy it from Fremont Cycle. There is a tidy profit in these products which is why dealers like them. Many car makers have clamped down on dealers who offer them online at discounted prices under pressure from the dealers who don't like the competition. The bike business isn't big enough for makers to worry about, yet.
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Post by fjrchuck on Nov 19, 2018 12:49:46 GMT -7
It's the official Yamaha Y.E.S. warranty, no third party warranty. No deductible, and the 4 years is in addition to the 1 year factory warranty, so a total of 5 years. Save money and buy it from Fremont Cycle. There is a tidy profit in these products which is why dealers like them. Many car makers have clamped down on dealers who offer them online at discounted prices under pressure from the dealers who don't like the competition. The bike business isn't big enough for makers to worry about, yet. And evitzee is totally right on this......I have purchased Yamaha extended Y.E.S. contracts multiple times for both motorcycle's and snowmobiles. The claim service I got thru Yamaha on a couple of snowmobile related claims was stellar. No worries, go for it!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2018 12:59:19 GMT -7
Thanks man. It's a heck of a deal then, at basically $10/month. Will buy it close to the expiration of the factory warranty, to have almost 5 years total. With the 2 engine failures reported, without a disqualifying issue like a tune, or other mechanical modifications, it's a bit of a gamble not to buy it, especially at that price.
Hey gang, to get the engine failures in perspective, does anybody here know how many 2017 and 2018 FZ/MT-10 bikes were imported the US? And how many made worldwide? Just curious about production numbers, to see how small is the engine failure rate. Thanks.
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Post by evitzee on Nov 19, 2018 14:09:00 GMT -7
Production figures are closely held, we'll never know how many have been made/sold and what their failure rate is. The Japanese do a pretty good job of quality control all the way through the process so I suspect the two reported failures are abnormal. I'd like for the posters to come back and keep us informed on how their cases are proceeding.....field fix, rebuild, buyback, something else. So far, crickets from them.
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Post by blakbear on Nov 19, 2018 21:29:07 GMT -7
Production figures are closely held, we'll never know how many have been made/sold and what their failure rate is. The Japanese do a pretty good job of quality control all the way through the process so I suspect the two reported failures are abnormal. I'd like for the posters to come back and keep us informed on how their cases are proceeding.....field fix, rebuild, buyback, something else. So far, crickets from them. I update mine regularly as possible, but in case no one read it, there is no buy back, no crate motors, basically i am at the mercy of yamaha as they offer the warranty and that is exactly what it is for, i dont like or trust a rebuild, but my choices are limited.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2018 23:51:50 GMT -7
Yeah, noticed you asked for updates on the blown engines, and zilch. Deals with Yamaha might be the reason for their silence; if it continues, that was it. Cause has to be either lack of lubrication or a defective part. I have a strong suspicion which it is, and why, but won't discuss it here. And it'd be exactly what happened to early C6 Corvette engines, but GM never admitted it. And yes, oil is involved, but some ignorant people here can't handle it . Anyway, a Yamaha extended warranty is supposed to give you piece of mind, but if your engine fails, I bet the 2 guys affected by engine failures would disagree. He he. Hopefully Yamaha will get its act together, and always have spare engines available in the near future. Finally, after seeing the translation of that 'warranty', which is 'Yamaha Extended SERVICE' (not warranty), I want to read the entire contract. I'm almost sure it doesn't have the same coverage as the factory warranty, like it's typically the case. I would be extremely surprised if it doesn't exclude many components (mostly electronic) that the factory warranty doesn't. But will report back after I read it. Hopefully it's an exclusionary policy, which is much easier to interpret, since all items not excluded are automatically included. But even if exclusionary, they often incorporate a prorated table on many items. For instance, if your generator craps out at 4 years, and Yamaha has its life expectancy listed as 5 years, you'd only get 20%, meaning it'd be way cheaper to get it fixed outside a Yamaha dealership. Will ask the eBay vendor for the contract. Or if somebody has it already, please post it, for others that might want to read it too. Hopefully I'm wrong, but without the word 'warranty' in there, I doubt it. We'll see .
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Post by peripateticmike on Nov 20, 2018 10:59:59 GMT -7
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 11:57:13 GMT -7
Dealer didn't have any info, so called Yamaha directly, and they confirmed there're exclusions from the factory waranty (as expected), but they didn't tell me what over the phone (really?). Anyway, no emails either, so after verifying I actually own a Yamaha covered vehicle, they offer to mail me the info instead, and should get it in 14 days. Will post results after I read it.
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Post by evitzee on Nov 20, 2018 14:26:17 GMT -7
Make it simple on yourself....just go online and download it. Usual exclusions like wear and tear items (plugs, tires, chains, sprockets, fluids) and any vehicle used in race type activities, the standard boilerplate. So if your starter motor or water pump craps out at 4 1/2 years it is covered, but when your sprockets and chain need replacing they are not covered. No exclusions that I see for any non altered electrical related parts like the gauge cluster, ECU or wiring (except battery of course). Electronics these days form a bigger and bigger part of the bike and they can fail due to heat and vibration. They are covered. From what I see it just carries on the 1 year Limited Warranty, no pro-ration for any components, if it fails it is covered.
www.yamaha-motor-yes.com/ Just put in your VIN and it will give you the info.
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Post by achrista on Nov 20, 2018 14:44:49 GMT -7
are there still benefits to an extended warranty if you flash your ECU? I guess if the engine fails that's void, but almost everything else should presumably be covered. I also bought my nearly a year ago. I assume I'd have to buy it before that year expires (if I'm even still eligible)
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Post by evitzee on Nov 20, 2018 15:04:11 GMT -7
Flashing the ECU is probably a sticky point as it changes the dynamics of how the engine runs, Yamaha would probably push back if you had a failure like the ones experienced by a couple of owners here. I think the safest assumption would be if you flashed the ECU, and especially if you put on 3/4 exhaust (sans catalytic converter), you have voided your warranty and a Y.E.S. agreement wouldn't be worthwhile. Just my opinion.
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Post by exuptoy on Nov 20, 2018 16:38:47 GMT -7
My dealer when asked about how the decat affects the warranty before fitting it said we'd look after you, however the answer wasn't the same regarding a re-flash or re-map of the ecu, as the original Yamaha details get wiped forever. Anyway if anything were to happen, the first thing I'd do is to swap back the cat and servo.
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Post by papawheelie on Nov 20, 2018 17:16:05 GMT -7
And yes, oil is involved, but some ignorant people here can't handle it . Hey elptxjc, I hate to assume. But, from following your other posts, I believe you’re referring to your opinion that good old Yamalube 15w-50 should not be used in our machines because the viscosity is too thick, and proper lubrication will not occur? For what it’s worth (which isn’t much), I use Yamalube 15w-50 for one reason -- because it’s what the manufacturer recommends in every piece of literature that they produce. And, gosh, I know those guys are way smarter about these machines, and motor oils, than I am. I have to believe that they know what they’re talking about, and that the reputation and longevity of their product is critical to them. I trust them, and I use Yamalube 15w-50. I’m papawheelie and I use 15w-50. Does that make me (and Yamaha) ignorant? 😬
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Post by peripateticmike on Nov 20, 2018 18:16:40 GMT -7
And yes, oil is involved, but some ignorant people here can't handle it . Hey elptxjc, I hate to assume. But, from following your other posts, I believe you’re referring to your opinion that good old Yamalube 15w-50 should not be used in our machines because the viscosity is too thick, and proper lubrication will not occur? For what it’s worth (which isn’t much), I use Yamalube 15w-50 for one reason -- because it’s what the manufacturer recommends in every piece of literature that they produce. And, gosh, I know those guys are way smarter about these machines, and motor oils, than I am. I have to believe that they know what they’re talking about, and that the reputation and longevity of their product is critical to them. I trust them, and I use Yamalube 15w-50. I’m papawheelie and I use 15w-50. Does that make me (and Yamaha) ignorant? 😬 Of course. If you use 15w-50 your engine will explode!! The connecting rod will leave the engine at such an incredible velocity! It will then hit the driver of a minivan right in the skull, which in turn will cause the vehicle to careen off the road, smashing into a tree, killing a family of 5!!!! Don't do it man, don't do it!! Think of the children!
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