I'm moving to SF, California from Canada, and would like to take my FZ-10 with me.
There is EPA & DOT regulations, anyone done that before? I'm moving to work there at the end of the September, and thinking of shipping my bike there (that's another conversation, thinking of using uship...?). I bought bike 3 months ago, have 5k kms on it, it is all payed off, I have all the documents.
I don't want to sell it because i'm gonna loose money, but i can spend 1500$ for moving & import taxes. haven't done any Engine mods, just cosmetic(engine protectors, radiator guards, spools...)
Would like to know if anyone done that, what exact papers they will ask, do they check vehicle there from database or I have to provide that information myself ( proof from Yamaha motors Canada that vehicle confirms California regulations....).
Post by peripateticmike on Sept 12, 2018 21:04:50 GMT -7
Moved to CA from another state (not another country) 3 1/2 years ago and brought my old '06 R1 with me so I went through this. Basically it goes like this, IF it is actually 50 state/CA emissions compliant. You'll need to make an appointment with your local DMV (department of motor vehicles) for a VIN inspection, THEN you'll need to make an appointment with a CHP ( CA highway patrol ) office for them to sign off on their own inspection. THEN you'll need to go back to the DMV with all the correct paperwork IE Title, VIN inspection sign off, proof of insurance etc. in order to get your plates and registration. And the appointments can be weeks out, so get them set ASAP. Expect a headache, it was an awful experience for me. Plus, you'll have to retest for your MC endorsement on your drivers license. I moved from Colorado to Nevada and then back to CO, the endorsement followed over each time but not in CA. CA is like it's own damn country with its own weird rules and way of going about things.
If your bike is not 50 state/CA compliant, it'll need to have over 7500 miles in order to register it in CA so make sure it is.
Welcome to Kalifornia! It's beautiful place but you sure do have to pay the beauty, weather, and nanny state tax!
About ten years ago I was transferred from Texas to Nova Scotia, Canada for a 2 1/2 year temporary assignment. The company shipped up my Subaru WRX and then I had to have it titled and registered in Nova Scotia. There is a reciprocal arrangement between the US and Canada for these types of situations. Since my move was temporary the stipulation was I could NOT sell the vehicle in Canada, it had to be shipped back to the US eventually. The vehicle regs are close enough but the car had to have a speedometer that read kph (it did) and it had to have DRL's (daytime running lights), and it had to meet Nova Scotia inspection standards. NS does not allow any tint on the driver or passenger window so that had to be dealt with. Then when it was imported back into the US I had to take it to the local police station in Houston so they could verify the VIN before I went back to the title office in Texas to get it retitled. Even though it was a temporary move it was still a freaking sideshow getting it all done.
In your case I would assume a Canadian and US spec m/c are very, very close but you never know what quirk you will run up against, especially in the lighting area. At the minimum you are almost certainly going to have to have a mph speedometer readout to get approval for CA use. Is the Canadian spec bike changeable between kph and mph? I am not sure what the People's Republic of California will require as far as emission compliance is concerned on imported bikes. There is the 7,500 mi rule for non-CA spec bikes as already mentioned, but I don't know if that covers imported bikes, it may and it may not. Since you only have about 3,000 miles on it it will have problems getting over the CA emission regs. Make sure you understand completely what hoops you will have to jump through to make it all legal in the USA. And if you aren't planning to re-export it back to Canada be aware it may take a hit value wise when you sell it as will be flagged as an imported bike. Some people will stay away from it.
Good luck, but be prepared for a major hassle jumping through all the hoops, and expect surprises when you are told you have a 'problem'. The truth of the matter is it may be a lot less painful to sell your Canadian bike and buy a new one in CA. It may cost some $$ but in the long run may be easier. Something to think about.
Last Edit: Sept 12, 2018 21:35:11 GMT -7 by evitzee
Random fact of the day. California has 3 million more people than the whole country of Canada
If you subtract the estimated 2.4 million illegals in CA the number gets closer.
We don't call them illegals here. We prefer documentarily challenged.
Oh and the EPA sticker is behind your airbox hidden under your gas tank. Despite the FZ10 50 state version having its own designation on the title, they still required me to produce this sticker. So I had to drive back to DMV a second time after I f inally figured out where the sticker was with the bike half torn apart to lift the gas tank for the inspector. This was even after I obtained a letter from Yamaha stating it was a 50 state bike. I have a post about it on the forum somewhere .
I got the bike new from a hookup as a manufacturers bill of sale or whatever that shit is, so it wasn't titled so it was treated as if it was a used out of state bike. It was a headache.
And you need to register it within 10 days of moving here, or at least 10 days from the date you put down on the registration form that you claim you moved into California. Wink wink.
And utilize the appointment system with DMV weeks in advance. Our DMV queues have been atrocious since we started giving illeg...I mean documentarily challenged folks drivers licenses and with the REAL ID act coming into effect, it's not weird to have a 3 hour wait time. Appointments get you in and out much quicker. But you have to schedule them weeks in advance.
Last Edit: Sept 12, 2018 22:58:09 GMT -7 by RedAndBlack
thanks everyone for input. I talked to Yamaha Canada/ Yamaha USA , and was told that they will provide a document to me stating that my bike confirms all USA regulations.... except KMH instead of MPH in dash, but thats a small thing. They told me with my ownership document and sell document indicating that I bough it here I should not have a problem.
Now I have to find a way to ship my bike from Halifax/NS/Canada to SF/California ... in next 14 days...