fastback89
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Post by fastback89 on Jun 16, 2018 17:28:18 GMT -7
Just wondering what your thoughts on mileage between oil changes? I did the first oil and filter at 300 miles, the second at 2000 miles and was planning on 3000 mile interval from here on out. Does this sound reasonable? Been using Motul 10W40 7100 and seems to shift well with this oil and doesn't use (burn) any oil at all.
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Post by achrista on Jun 16, 2018 18:49:52 GMT -7
Just wondering what your thoughts on mileage between oil changes? I did the first oil and filter at 300 miles, the second at 2000 miles and was planning on 3000 mile interval from here on out. Does this sound reasonable? Been using Motul 10W40 7100 and seems to shift well with this oil and doesn't use (burn) any oil at all. I just follow the service manual. Change at 600, 6k, and then every 6k. Every 3k seems excessive and with motul it sounds expensive.
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Post by papawheelie on Jun 16, 2018 19:05:35 GMT -7
You’re gonna get a few different "opinions" on this. I did my first oil/filter change at 100 miles, and then followed the owner’s manual, which means doing the next oil/filter change at 600 miles (if I remember correctly), 4K, 8k, 12k, etc.
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Post by evitzee on Jun 16, 2018 22:23:24 GMT -7
Just follow the manual. First change at 600 miles (incl filter), then every 4,000 miles with full synthetic oil (Euro spec is 6,000 miles!) Too much oil hysteria lately. Yamaha engineers know more than us "experts" posting on line.
I replace the filter each time even though Yamaha says you can do it every other time.
Have put over 150,000 miles on bikes over the years following the manual and have never had any engine issues related to oil. Keep it simple.
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Post by achrista on Jun 17, 2018 11:31:22 GMT -7
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2018 22:36:25 GMT -7
I don't care what the manual says, but it's idiotic to not change the oil filter after an oil change. But to each his own. Oil change interval is dependent on how you use the bike. I typically do it once a year, and at either 5 or 6K miles, but I do mostly highway. With lots of short trips, I'd do it at 5K, like I do on my vehicles used that way. I'd wait until 600 initially; no need to do it earlier, but again, to each his own .
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Post by achrista on Jun 18, 2018 8:37:33 GMT -7
the FZ allows for a larger filter than I had on my R6, so I may skip a filter change at my next oil change. Historically I have used a cheap filter and just changed both, particularly on higher mileage cars.
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mario
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Post by mario on Jun 18, 2018 8:52:49 GMT -7
For me, first service at 600 miles, 2nd service will be at 6000 or after 1 year and after that it will be as per the manual with an oil and filter change AT LEAST once a year, even if I have not covered 6000 miles since the last time.
Oil deteriorates with age, not just milage, so its best to do it every xxx miles OR xxx timeframe, whatever comes first.
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Post by daveinwoodland on Jun 18, 2018 10:47:31 GMT -7
If anyone is really concerned they can always send a sample in for evauluation, It's about 20.00 but you can get an idea of how long and how well your synthetic oil will be fine. I think most of you would be surprised at the outcome. New oils especially synthetic are far above and beyond the old days.
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Post by latte on Jun 18, 2018 11:03:45 GMT -7
All dino oil- 50, 300, 600, (track day)1000
Synthetic every ~2500 after.
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Post by RedAndBlack on Jun 18, 2018 13:22:53 GMT -7
I hate to come off like this but I feel this puts people at ease. I run this bike very hard, canyon carving and track only. A lot of the times in desert temperatures. So I think it's fair to say I probably ride this bike to more extremes than most do. I have zero concern with the oil change interval. I do it as per the manuals recommendation. I'll check the sight window every now and then and add oil if I need to, but I change it per schedule. Have never had any engine issues with any of my bikes owned. Although admittedly I've yet to own a bike long enough to get really high mileage on it. But I've never had a bad pan of used oil come out with shit like engine shavings or anything that's ever concerned me.
I do run Racing 4T oil, but for most that's excessive. For most you can absolutely save money with oil and changes by just following the requirements on the manual .No need to short change. No need to go crazy with Motul 300. There's people out there that are experts that will back this sentiment up .Oil and engine technology have gone farther than the old way of thinking with changing every 3000 miles.
Keep the levels right. Make sure the coolant system is optimal. Keep up on your other maintanence like spark plugs and valve adjustments and you'll be fine following the manual recommendations.
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Post by evitzee on Jun 18, 2018 14:18:53 GMT -7
^^^ Right on. No matter what kind of vehicle site you visit there are always oil threads about changing inverval, best type/brand/weight of oil and other esoteric 'facts' on the best method to lubricate your engines internals. I think it is in guys DNA; women like shoes, guys like to talk motor oil. Some of it is amusing, some is just a wasteful use of oil and $$, and once in awhile you'll see ideas and methods which might be harmful to your engine. Oil technology has advanced dramatically over the last 20 years or so with semi-synthetic and full synthetic oils giving greater protection and greatly increased periods between needed oil changes. Some cars don't have a dipstick to even check the level, they will monitor the situation and tell you when it is time to change it, often well after 10,000 miles. The old 3,000 mile rule was a marketing tool used by the oil industry to sell more oil in quickie lube joints that they often owned (particularly Pennzoil). It was pretty much nonsense back in the 80's but totally nuts today, but you'll still see signs in some of these places on the door when you leave saying 'See you in 3,000 miles'. These full synthetic oils are often in the $20/qt range meaning it is an $80-$100 outlay with the filter, not an insignificant cost. Follow the recommendations by the manufacturer with the correct type, weight and JASO MA oil and you'll be fine. And at the lowest possible hit to your wallet.
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fastback89
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Post by fastback89 on Jun 18, 2018 17:09:47 GMT -7
Thanks for all the great info, very helpful to here others advice.
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