kingz
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Post by kingz on Jun 5, 2018 9:21:20 GMT -7
Hello,
Need some advice with my setup on the suspension.
Have tried the settings that some have posted here on the forum.
But..I do not drive race and our roads here are in very bad condition, I think it gets extremely bumpy.
I have got the back suspension ok so I'm satisfied, but I'm not getting well with the front, if I put it in so that it swallows the bumps, I get punished in corner stability.
SAG is 35 mm, compression a little harder than standard but I have to set the return damping a bit softer than standard otherwise it will feel like bouncing over the bumps.
I know it's a compromise with spring settings, but I need some advice from someone who drives quite aggressively but not on raceways, perhaps on bumpy roads.
My weight is 85kg with gear, 2,5 bars front and 2,9 bars rear.
Any good advice?
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kingz
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Post by kingz on Jun 5, 2018 11:41:39 GMT -7
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Post by RedAndBlack on Jun 5, 2018 14:38:04 GMT -7
Let me preface this with in have very limited experience with setting my own suspension. I pay someone to do it.
With that being said, it sounds like you're trying to accomplish two things that are essentially opposite of each other. The only way to get relief from bumps is usually to soften your suspension, but a softer suspension results in a less forgiving suspension when riding it agresively.
Usually the issue with bumps is rebound, which is the issue I was having. My suspension seemed like it was snapping back too quick and sometimes even seemed to pick up the front wheel. My suspension tuner fixed this, presumably by messing with the rebound. Slowing the rate the suspension returns after being compressed.
Good luck!
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kingz
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Post by kingz on Jun 6, 2018 0:54:22 GMT -7
Thank you for your reply RedAndBlack
Took me a long thought and found out that there are no shortcuts.
Ridden to my favorite stretch of curves with both good and bad asphalt.
Set the suspension completely by default, drove the distance, adjusted fully on rebound and tested.
Then screwed down with 4 clicks each run on the rebound until it felt good. Did the same with the compression.
Took 8 rounds before it went well, now it’s closer to "soft" on rebound and closer to "hard" on compression.
Have not checked SAG again but it will be the next thing to do, does it change a lot?
Also worked with more rebound and less air in the tire, but does not know how it affects the tire, anyone who has experience of it?
It got so good so now I have to do the same with the back suspension that I thought was ok before.
Begins to understand why MotoGp drivers have problems.
It's quite right that suspension settings are compromised, but most settings people put out are extremely hard, work well if you're pushing all the time, but I think many drive like me, 25% pushing and 75% calmer with this wonderful machine.
In a perfect world, all roads has new asphalt.
Can recommend to everyone to adjust the suspension, either fix it yourself or have a skilled mechanic set it up, do not forget to tell him how you drive and on which roads, so you do not get a "Rossi" setup.
If you do it yourself document everything you do and how it feels, extremely easy to mix all the "clicks"
BR
Magnus
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Post by RedAndBlack on Jun 6, 2018 9:09:08 GMT -7
That's solid advice for sure. I recommend it to everybody. A basic suspension tune is only $40 with my suspension tuner. And can completely change the way the bike feels and handles. Certainly the best bang for your buck in my opinion on any sportbike.
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Post by fastback89 on Jun 7, 2018 18:39:07 GMT -7
I went through a similar scenario when I first bought my 10. I was carrying the tools needed to adjust everything needed. I'll be honest there was several hundred miles devoted to suspension settings and must say it was worth it. This thing will rail turns and soak up bumps quite well. I'm very pleased with the results.
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kingz
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Post by kingz on Jun 7, 2018 23:35:53 GMT -7
An update,
Has now got the back suspension to work too, when I drive over unevenness, the suspension feels the same forward as the back, maybe a bit stiffer behind. Is like Fastback writes "Going on rails now".
The big difference is that now that I trust the suspension, I can focus on looking far into the curve, before I was scanning for asphalt problems.
This means I drive faster and with confidence, we have a highway access, the curve is a 200 degree bend, never reaching 90 km / h, but now it works at 110km / h.
I had an MT09 before and I was never pleased with that suspension. Hope you take advantage of the settings available on the MT10 / FZ10 for it's really good.
Now I only need more effect !! Just kidding!!
Many thanks to our forums that give tips and inspiration.
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