ossapioneer
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Post by ossapioneer on Mar 14, 2018 21:33:06 GMT -7
Is the MT10 different in any way from the FZ10, and what is the SP version all about ? Is the SP available in America?
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Post by RedAndBlack on Mar 14, 2018 23:22:31 GMT -7
Little to no difference between the MT10 and FZ10. Originally, the FZ10 was the American model so there might've been little nuances that were different to American regulations such as with emissions, but they are essentially the same bike. Yamaha has now decided to market the MT10 as the sole model, so now all models are MT10 starting with 2018.
The MT10SP is an upgraded version, most specifically having a electronic Ohlins suspension. It also comes standard with a quickshifter and I believe the electronics package is more advanced as far as things like traction control settings. I believe the brakes are upgraded as well and has a special paint scheme.
As it stands right now, the SP is not available in the US. No idea yet if it will. I guess it will depend on the success of the MT10 and the demand.
I feel like Americans that would need such an advanced bike, would more likely go with something like the R1M instead. Although naked upright bikes are definitely on the uptrend, I still don't feel we've embraced them as track bikes YET. So the demand for such a bike might not be as much here so who knows if we will ever see it. I would almost definitely get one. Haha
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Post by ikranmakto on Mar 15, 2018 4:58:15 GMT -7
RedAndBlack your explanation is correct, the SP comes with Ohlins electronic suspension, some additional riding modes and a TFT dash like the one on the R1 and a different colour scheme. I'm from Australia and was tossing up between the SP model and the standard model when I bought mine back in April 2017. The deal with the SP was well worth the dollars, about 3.5k AUD extra, but I still ended up buying the standard model with the view of spending the extra on what I wanted rather than what Yamaha was offering. The thing that puzzles me though is why the USA FZ models are a year behind Australian and European models, this may change now they are all being badged MT. As I said, I bought my bike in April 2017 and it came standard with a quick shifter and an upgraded mapping to smooth out the snatchy throttle of the previous 2016 model. Instead of Standard, A & B, the new modes are 1, 2, & 3, with 1 being the most aggressive mode. There is no announcement of a new model being introduced over here any time soon.
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Post by ossapioneer on Mar 15, 2018 15:53:02 GMT -7
Thanks RedAndBlack and ikranmakto, I appreciate it.
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Post by hitmantium on Mar 19, 2018 11:35:24 GMT -7
That's good to know about the mapping. I still haven't been able to ride mine yet. She's still sitting in the garage until the snow, salty roads, and lower temps go away.
Does Yamaha offer a new mapping for the 2017's, or does it have to be done elsewhere?
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Post by dewaynehasty on Mar 19, 2018 13:25:46 GMT -7
I noticed this on a dealer page:
◾REVISED D-MODE MAPPING: 2018 brings refined fuel injection and D-Mode settings. Modes are now numbered, with Mode 1 providing the sharpest throttle response, Mode 2 offering a good all-around character, and Mode 3 offering the smoothest, most progressive throttle response.
Did they really change the labels on the Modes yet again!
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Post by clayton on Mar 19, 2018 13:41:32 GMT -7
I noticed this on a dealer page: ◾REVISED D-MODE MAPPING: 2018 brings refined fuel injection and D-Mode settings. Modes are now numbered, with Mode 1 providing the sharpest throttle response, Mode 2 offering a good all-around character, and Mode 3 offering the smoothest, most progressive throttle response. Did they really change the labels on the Modes yet again! Yup |
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Post by achrista on Mar 19, 2018 18:12:58 GMT -7
To be fair i think the 1/2/3 system is easier to explain.
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Post by ikranmakto on Mar 19, 2018 22:45:00 GMT -7
To be fair i think the 1/2/3 system is easier to explain. With you on that one achrista, makes much more sense than previous A, B & standard. The traction control settings 1,2 & 3 also correspond, with 1 being the least invasive traction setting. When I purchased my bike it was the first of the new model to leave the showroom, no-one from the sales team knew what the new settings were. I remember riding home through peak hour traffic in mode 1 thinking if this is the tamest mode I'm f@#ked. Yamaha has remapped the new models from the factory. But it is 998 cc of awesome raw torque, so you will never get a completely tame throttle at low revs. |
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