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Post by dnozzle on Mar 5, 2019 21:26:12 GMT -7
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coachstarkey
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micke
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Post by micke on Jul 17, 2019 9:24:31 GMT -7
hi , got a new bike since last week , broke in yesterday  tested a bit ..stock just akra slipon . |
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Post by heathhudnall on Jul 17, 2019 15:29:58 GMT -7
hi , got a new bike since last week , broke in yesterday tested a bit ..stock just akra slipon . That display tho... |
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micke
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Post by micke on Jul 19, 2019 5:10:29 GMT -7
You mean , dont show the Numbers ?
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Post by heathhudnall on Jul 19, 2019 5:46:55 GMT -7
You mean , dont show the Numbers ? Nah, I'm envious of your display on the SP. |
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Post by micke on Aug 27, 2019 11:35:25 GMT -7
this bike is sooo fun |
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Post by travist67 on Aug 27, 2019 14:50:12 GMT -7
Just in case someone wanted to try a wheelie... I've only put 900 miles on my bike so far, so I'm still getting used to it. 99% of the miles I've put on the bike so far are in mode 1, traction control 1. If I wanted to try to do a "beginner's wheelie" then what would the wheelie pros among you recommend for mode setting and TC setting? I'm guessing mode 1 for the throttle response, but don't know if the TC setting will affect wheelies at all. Also for a strict beginner like myself what gear/speed would you recommend starting out at for the wheelie attempt? Thanks!
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Post by micke on Aug 27, 2019 21:03:31 GMT -7
Just in case someone wanted to try a wheelie... I've only put 900 miles on my bike so far, so I'm still getting used to it. 99% of the miles I've put on the bike so far are in mode 1, traction control 1. If I wanted to try to do a "beginner's wheelie" then what would the wheelie pros among you recommend for mode setting and TC setting? I'm guessing mode 1 for the throttle response, but don't know if the TC setting will affect wheelies at all. Also for a strict beginner like myself what gear/speed would you recommend starting out at for the wheelie attempt? Thanks! Tc2 mode2 is smooth . Tc2 is perfect for powerwheelies it goes up about 80 cm ? Then no more . Just sig back and giv som gas in second or third . Mine is 1500km now 👍 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 22:21:52 GMT -7
Tc2 is perfect for powerwheelies it goes up about 80 cm? Then no more. I don't think that's accurate. Our bikes do not have an IMU, and therefore, no wheelie control. In fact, according to the manual, if one of the tires comes off the ground, TCS automatically turns off, so you don't even have TCS at all. Here's what the manual says on page 4-5 (3-5 in Europe): 'The traction control system will automatically disable when:
- The front wheel or rear wheel comes off the ground while riding'So DO NOT think you're protected from rolling the bike backwards. By the way, the CEL might come on, and you'd need to reset TCS if that happens, as explained on page 4-5/4-6 (3-5/3-6 in Europe). So be careful Travist67; it's easy to botch a wheelie on these things, brother. Good luck. |
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Post by mtate on Aug 28, 2019 4:50:55 GMT -7
Tc2 is perfect for powerwheelies it goes up about 80 cm? Then no more. I don't think that's accurate. Our bikes do not have an IMU, and therefore, no wheelie control. In fact, according to the manual, if one of the tires comes off the ground, TCS automatically turns off, so you don't even have TCS at all. Here's what the manual says on page 3-5: 'The traction control system will automatically disable when:
- The front wheel or rear wheel comes off the ground while riding'So DO NOT think you're protected from rolling the bike backwards. By the way, the CEL might come on, and you'd need to reset TCS if that happens, as explained on page 3-5 and 3-6. So be careful Travist67; it's easy to botch a wheelie on these things, brother. Good luck. It's weird that it says TC will disable when on one wheel because I have had my TC come on mid wheelie a couple of times and it really screws with you. Also not sure if it was a slightly damp road or what but with TC3 on my front wheel only comes up a couple of inches before cutting power. TC1 and TC2 do feel identical though with no wheelie preventatives. |
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Post by mtate on Aug 28, 2019 4:55:55 GMT -7
Just in case someone wanted to try a wheelie... I've only put 900 miles on my bike so far, so I'm still getting used to it. 99% of the miles I've put on the bike so far are in mode 1, traction control 1. If I wanted to try to do a "beginner's wheelie" then what would the wheelie pros among you recommend for mode setting and TC setting? I'm guessing mode 1 for the throttle response, but don't know if the TC setting will affect wheelies at all. Also for a strict beginner like myself what gear/speed would you recommend starting out at for the wheelie attempt? Thanks! Mode 2 TC1. Just blip the throttle at 30 and the front comes right up. Can be pretty violent though so if you're not used to wheelies then you can slightly roll on and still have the wheel come up. Otherwise you can smack the throttle at 50 in 2nd gear and it'll stand up nicely. |
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Post by micke on Aug 28, 2019 7:41:17 GMT -7
I don't think that's accurate. Our bikes do not have an IMU, and therefore, no wheelie control. In fact, according to the manual, if one of the tires comes off the ground, TCS automatically turns off, so you don't even have TCS at all. Here's what the manual says on page 3-5: 'The traction control system will automatically disable when:
- The front wheel or rear wheel comes off the ground while riding'So DO NOT think you're protected from rolling the bike backwards. By the way, the CEL might come on, and you'd need to reset TCS if that happens, as explained on page 3-5 and 3-6. So be careful Travist67; it's easy to botch a wheelie on these things, brother. Good luck. It's weird that it says TC will disable when on one wheel because I have had my TC come on mid wheelie a couple of times and it really screws with you. Also not sure if it was a slightly damp road or what but with TC3 on my front wheel only comes up a couple of inches before cutting power. TC1 and TC2 do feel identical though with no wheelie Okay , have you tested this ? . When i tested like i wrote it Came down and not by me . So i use tc1 in this video . In tc2 in restricted . But maybe its My bike only its an sp .. And when testning wheelies always do it by babysteps if you are new to it , dont use to low gear . Avoid first atleast . Second is good and easy on this bike . |
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Post by travist67 on Aug 28, 2019 10:13:30 GMT -7
Thanks for the feedback, guys. If I do try I will be sure to find a deserted area and start out as slowly as possible. The TC thing is interesting. I wonder why Yamaha decided the bike should just shut TC off if the front wheel comes up. I was thinking that if I'm riding down the road and hit the throttle hard enough for the front wheel to come up, that means my rear wheel is immediately rotating faster than my front wheel and that is what I'm thinking is how TC determines if you're losing traction or not. Front wheel comes up, it immediately begins to spin a little slower while the rear wheel is starting to speed faster and faster. Sure sounds like a lack of traction from the computer's perspective. If there are no sensors on the bike to detect how much higher the front end is than the rear, then how can it differentiate between the wheelie scenario and the scenario of the rear tire genuinely losing traction with no wheelie being involved? Maybe the TC system is detecting a loss of traction in a different way than by comparing front/rear wheel speeds. I dunno. Just thinking out loud. Not saying anyone is wrong or not, just saying I sure don't know. Thanks again for the feedback.
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Post by mtate on Aug 28, 2019 10:17:48 GMT -7
Okay , have you tested this ? . When i tested like i wrote it Came down and not by me . So i use tc1 in this video . In tc2 in restricted . But maybe its My bike only its an sp .. And when testning wheelies always do it by babysteps if you are new to it , dont use to low gear . Avoid first atleast . Second is good and easy on this bike . I haven't actually tested it but there was a couple times where I powered up with no problem thinking I was in TC1 but it was actually in TC2, I didn't notice it for a few miles. They felt they exact same when coming up and I didn't feel a power cut when close to balance point. I'm not willing to try and loop it though for obvious reasons.  |
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Post by micke on Aug 29, 2019 6:59:37 GMT -7
Okay , thats Wierd . I was not close to the balance point when it shut down in tc2 ..hmm .maybe it was slippery when i tested then ...might try again and see . Personally i think its great if there is no wheeliecontrol 👍 on the Superduke it was not so good to have to disable everything but abs to wheelie proporly . Well atleast on My -14
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travist67
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Post by travist67 on Sept 1, 2019 15:37:54 GMT -7
Just in case someone wanted to try a wheelie... I've only put 900 miles on my bike so far, so I'm still getting used to it. 99% of the miles I've put on the bike so far are in mode 1, traction control 1. If I wanted to try to do a "beginner's wheelie" then what would the wheelie pros among you recommend for mode setting and TC setting? I'm guessing mode 1 for the throttle response, but don't know if the TC setting will affect wheelies at all. Also for a strict beginner like myself what gear/speed would you recommend starting out at for the wheelie attempt? Thanks! Mode 2 TC1. Just blip the throttle at 30 and the front comes right up. Can be pretty violent though so if you're not used to wheelies then you can slightly roll on and still have the wheel come up. Otherwise you can smack the throttle at 50 in 2nd gear and it'll stand up nicely. Ahhh... I went out a few days ago and found a deserted road in the middle of nowhere and tried this out but couldn't get the front end to come up for some reason. I tried at least 5-6 times, no luck. So today I was out in the same area and decided to try again but this time rather than try it in second gear I figured I'd try to give it a shot in first gear., like really start small. I putted down the road in first gear and glanced at the speedometer and thought "Wow, I'm already doing about 30 in first gear..." Grabbed a little throttle and WHOAH! That's more like it. I had INCORRECLY remembered the advice as "mode 2, tc1, second gear" for some reason the first time I tried this a few days ago. So in all combinations of mode 1, mode 2, tc1, tc2 I was able to bring the front end up in first gear around 30 mph. Cool. Nothing elegant but got the tire up in the air and brought it back down smoothly enough to not do any harm. About a dozen times. Now that I have a starting point maybe I can practice a little each week and get decent at this. Thanks for the advice, guys. |
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Post by harry76 on Sept 2, 2019 7:44:57 GMT -7
I guess we don't have many squids here, if you asked the same question on the Gixxer forum we would have 10 pages of videos by now!
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Post by oldster52 on Dec 18, 2019 3:56:08 GMT -7
I just wanted to chime on on this wheelie/ TC discussion. I have been working on wheelies for a couple of months on my ‘17. I have my TC set on “1” and ride mode “B” (Most aggressive). Sorry, no decent video but will post ASAP. The owner manual does say TC is disabled if one wheel or the other leaves the ground. This seems to defeat the purpose of TC, so I can gladly report that this does not happen on my bike. I have ONCE seen my TC light flashing during a very high wheelie, and the TC did it’s job with engine breaking and front end coming down. Other than that, Since reading this thread, I am going to see what happens in TC-2... will post what I find 😊
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Post by dnozzle on Dec 23, 2019 14:27:37 GMT -7
I just wanted to chime on on this wheelie/ TC discussion. I have been working on wheelies for a couple of months on my ‘17. I have my TC set on “1” and ride mode “B” (Most aggressive). Sorry, no decent video but will post ASAP. The owner manual does say TC is disabled if one wheel or the other leaves the ground. This seems to defeat the purpose of TC, so I can gladly report that this does not happen on my bike. I have ONCE seen my TC light flashing during a very high wheelie, and the TC did it’s job with engine breaking and front end coming down. Other than that, Since reading this thread, I am going to see what happens in TC-2... will post what I find 😊 I usually keep my '17 on A mode when I know I'm doing wheelies. If I'm in TC1- It will wheelie on command about 99% of the time with no interference. If I bump it up to TC2 it will interfere about 60% or so of the time - It's challenging. In TC3 it will NOT let the front wheel leave the ground and allow the throttle to stay open simultaneously. It's pretty much impossible in TC3. I've had my TC light flash in every single mode before. You can feel it cut power, but it does it very smoothly. I like to keep it in 1 because it everrr so slightly fixes my rear tire slides on hard corner exits and I barely notice the correction it's making for me. I love it. As far as the TC blinking when I wheelie too high...I've never experienced that? |
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tested a bit ..stock just akra slipon . 
