vk
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Post by vk on Apr 23, 2019 3:08:03 GMT -7
New to the site and the bike. Gotta 2019 Mt10 about a month ago. I did the 600 mile stuff and absolutely love the bike. Dealer said wait till now so suspension would break in so I did.
Any Texas folks know of a good suspension tuner in the Austin/ SA area?? Figure COTA is here so there has to be a person that can get this thing dialed in a bit. I know its not rocket science but that is one road I wont venture down. When I rip on the throttle feels like the back end is trying to stepout a little when coming out of a corner. Could just be rider error??
Asked around where I bought the bike and of course they said bring it to them so....
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Post by thefinn on Apr 24, 2019 11:18:20 GMT -7
It is a 1000cc bike, so with enough power the back end will slip regardless. However, in the suspension world rule of thimb is that entrance of corners relies on the front and exit the rear, so its not far fetched at all that the loss of traction in the rear during exits has to do with a poor setup.
Just the preloads not being properly set will do lots of funny stuff on the bike, if they are correct i suspect it would be too little low speed compression on the shock. If thats the case, the rear wheel is slipping but not quite enough to make you wipe out automatically.
Are you sure its the rear wheel slipping? Could also be the shock collapsing or a larger turn radius on the exit due to a poor setup.
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Post by vk on Apr 24, 2019 14:44:46 GMT -7
It happened a couple times coming out of a tighter corner to a decent straight so im.not really sure. Wasn't enough to say wth but I definitely felt it. 1st sport oriented ride in a long time (13 yrs). Never had a bike with all these bells and whistles before so I'm a completely new to the electronic stuff. I dig it for sure but maybe it's the TC kicking in?  . Gonna hit that same stretch again this weekend. |
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Post by thefinn on Apr 26, 2019 12:54:39 GMT -7
The TC doesnt kick in before the wheel is already slipping. The rule is: a bike never does something every few corners, it does shady stuff every time if something is wrong with its setup. In that case its you causing the problem. However since you are a bit new to this power (what i understand from your posts) i suspect you might still be a bit inconsistent. Thats why its hard to tell Either way, getting your suspension tuned will absolutley improve handling, comfort and confidence a LOT. I highly recommend getting it done asap. As you said, its not rocket sience, just find a suspension tuner nearby and they will be able to get you a decent setup on the suspension. If you are not tinnkering with it yourself, i dont think youll feel a difference between a good setup and a great setup, just get the awful factory setup sorted out  |
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vk
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Post by vk on Apr 26, 2019 18:25:47 GMT -7
Haha yeah I have pretty much come to that conclusion. I have read online/watched videos for a few days now about the how too and the why. Good idea what all the different things due now I found a general suspension place about 25 miles away. Think I'm just pull the trigger and make an appt.
Always had buddies before who could help when I was in CO. But moved to the gates of hell for work. Had a 2000 zx12r and 03 Aprilia that would friggin rail but... wife got pregnant and sport bikes had to go by by. Been on a cruiser ever since. 46 now and midlife crisis finally kicked lol!!
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Post by thefinn on May 8, 2019 14:18:33 GMT -7
Haha, when that hits me (wife and kids) ill most likely get something like a FJR-1300 that looks safe but still is fast  My mother often says "when you get kids you have to sell your motorcycle(s)". Have to find a way around that one once it starts to become relevant. |
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Post by thefinn on May 8, 2019 14:22:03 GMT -7
Btw, if you got some interest in suspension setups, i highly recomend Dave Moss videos as well as a series called "suspension for mortals". "Twist of the wrist 2 - the cornering bible" touches the subject a little bit too if you havent seen it. Great tips all around on all kinds of stuff.
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Post by theculturalattache on May 8, 2019 14:36:50 GMT -7
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Post by theculturalattache on May 8, 2019 14:39:08 GMT -7
Hopefully that worked,I don't have much luck with links.
It was supposed to be a link to twist of the wrist 2.
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Post by theculturalattache on May 8, 2019 14:50:54 GMT -7
I subscribe to dave moss, highly recommended. Getting back to the OP,if your in the Austin area the guys at this place www.motomummy.com are, or were regular contributors on the R1 forum.I am sure they could point you in the direction of a suspension tuner. For the sake of your relationship I highly advise you do not go into this place with a credit card... |
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Post by vk on May 8, 2019 15:03:43 GMT -7
I have read Dave Moss recommendations on this site quite a bit. Watched his free video. Need to just pay for the subscription or call set an appt.
Only have roughly 800 miles as of now (friggin rain sucks)
The throttle is sensitive compared to the 760 lb cruiser I got so I'm thinking could be a throttle control issue more than anything lol... Mt is an awesome purchase as far as I'm concerned. Was able to convince the wife it's a naked bike notta sportbike soooo dont tell..hahaha
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Post by vk on May 8, 2019 15:09:17 GMT -7
Couldn't get the video to play. Will dink around and try to find it after work. Appreciate it though |
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Post by thefinn on May 8, 2019 15:09:40 GMT -7
Smart man  |
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Post by thefinn on May 8, 2019 15:10:49 GMT -7
Try opening it on a mobile device. The video shows a link to youtube to see it |
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Post by thefinn on May 8, 2019 15:13:10 GMT -7
Never mind, that one was dubbed.
Here you go
Just ignore the russian subtitles
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Post by aavmann on May 8, 2019 16:13:22 GMT -7
Haha, when that hits me (wife and kids) ill most likely get something like a FJR-1300 that looks safe but still is fast My mother often says "when you get kids you have to sell your motorcycle(s)". Have to find a way around that one once it starts to become relevant.  "Looks safe" to me!!!! |
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Post by thefinn on May 21, 2019 8:28:21 GMT -7
Put on a taller windshield and a topbox just to be sure!
Top box = slow and safe to non bikers.
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Post by vk on May 21, 2019 9:08:22 GMT -7
Hahaha well my secret made it all of 2 months. She use to ride trails and MX with me so I figured it was gonna be short lived. She knows a little...... and she saw going around a sweeper headed home fairly rapidly DOH!!
No biggie she just rolled her blue eyes and so said dont kill yourself.
As far as throttle control goes me being the typical knuckle dragger I ate my pride and started messing with the modes. Mode 2 and 2 is great fun but for really smooth 3 and 2tc setting is like butter. Of course out of the dealer parking lot I stopped down the street and put it in 1 and 1 so may have got over zealous.
Lesson learned lol!! Still getting the suspension dialed in. Better but not satisfied just yet. Gonna need a heavier spring/shock so maybe this winter. Until then got enough giggle factor to keep me happy for awhile!!
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Post by thefinn on May 21, 2019 13:46:01 GMT -7
Honestly the best comment a wife could say to that, youre a lucky man! Yes, if you are a heavyer guy like me (im 240 pounds) stiffer springs are definitely needed. You can do the ziptie trick, tie it around one of your forks (just tight enough that it stays in place), push it up lightly to the fork seal and go do a heavy but smooth braking on a parking lot. The ziptie should be at about 2 inches from the metal part where the fork goes into. This leaves some suspension travel for small bumps, decreasing your braking distance and handling If its ~1 inch from the bottom it has bottomed out, which is bad news. This causes the front to lock up prematurely, especially during emergency braking. Feel free to adjust the compression of the forks and slow speed compression on the shock. That is where the "feeling" is and you cant mess too much up. Just be sure that the front and back are even, so when you step down suddenly on your footpeg (no brake applied, standing besides it) the front and the back should sink at the same rate The high speed compression on the shock is for bumps, you can adjust that too if you feel like the rear is rough on bumpy roads. Just dont turn it too much as this can make the rear compression collapse while cornering, instead of going down at the same rate as the forks. |
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Post by vk on May 21, 2019 14:34:35 GMT -7
Im 238 so I knew I was going to eventually have to "up grade"....
Suspension is such a finicky thing.
Other ride is a m109. It's a large friggin bike. Heavy and corner clearance sucks at best. Jumped on the mt and just trying to find my rhythm again..lol. cruiser life screwed me all up.
Been twisting and turning the suspension some. Will get there, ordered a book for idiots so that will help hahaha..
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. Gonna hit that same stretch again this weekend.
