rhino
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Post by rhino on Dec 14, 2017 16:21:40 GMT -7
Bike is stock, new levers are installed and have been for about a year, never had an issue before. Today I tried to set my cruise control on (was doing 70-80) and the cruise control light was flashing and wouldn't set. Any ideas?
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Post by RedAndBlack on Dec 14, 2017 19:31:04 GMT -7
Flashing means there's a fault. I would check all the sensors on the bike. Make sure they are aligned properly and working properly. Clutch, both brakes, kickstand (unlikely this but still good to check ), and speed sensors on the wheels. Speed sensors seem to be a common culprit. Any misalignment with them causes all types of issues.
Also, check your brake lever slack. If your line is too tight, it can allow the brake switch out enough where it disengages the cruise control but not far enough to engage the brakes or the brake light. When you pull back your brake lever and you listen closely, you should hear two distinct clicks in the brake switch. First click is the cruise control disengagement, second is the brake light. If you're only hearing one, that's probably the culprit and hopefully will require some brake line adjustment or realig nment of the switch, lever, etc. I presume the rear wheel is the same but I've not personally messed with the rear brake.
If that does not fix and you're still under warranty, dealer can probably pull the reason for the fault.
If you're not on warranty and can't find any relevant problems, I would personally disconnect the battery for a bit and then reconnect it and see if that flushes the electrical Gremlins out before exploring further issues.
Finally, there's a section in the service manual for troubleshooting. Potentially this issue is mentioned and the recommendations on stuff to check. Check out the service manual and see if they address a flashing cruise light in troubleshooting.
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Post by RedAndBlack on Dec 14, 2017 19:36:00 GMT -7
Alsooooo, no offense but I feel it's important to mention the stupid things sometimes, I think you can't engage cruise control in lower gears. So even at the speed range you can engage cruise control, I don't think you can do it in first or second gear and maybe even third gear. Can't remember exactly but that is a thing on our bikes.
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Post by av8er on Dec 15, 2017 6:25:41 GMT -7
Alsooooo, no offense but I feel it's important to mention the stupid things sometimes, I think you can't engage cruise control in lower gears. So even at the speed range you can engage cruise control, I don't think you can do it in first or second gear and maybe even third gear. Can't remember exactly but that is a thing on our bikes. This is true, but that won't cause the light to flash, just won't engage. With him attempting to engage at 70plus as he stated, I guessing that's not the issue. I would agree that your earlier post with contacts would be the likely culprit. I would start with the new levers as they have been a problem for several in the past. The cheaper earlier levers did not have the dual contact switch. If your absolutely positive that it worked previously after installing, (there were a few levers when our bike first came out that didn't have the dual switch required) perhaps that is what failed. Easy check of that would be to reinstall the stock clutch lever and start. No need to ride, as it will flash when turning on even in neutral as it should be doing now with the fault. If flashing with the old stock lever, then one of the micro switches mentioned in the previous post would be a good place to start.
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Post by rhino on Dec 15, 2017 9:05:48 GMT -7
RedAndBlack: All good pointers - I actually suspected brake line slack but I wasn't sure how to prove it. I'll check for those clicks before I head home from work today. I am aware of the speed/gear limitations and no offense taken. Would be an easy one to miss if you weren't previously aware. Checked the manual, no mention of a flashing cruise control light that I could find. Obviously indicative of a fault but no hints as to what.
av8er: I have Pazzo Shorties on the bike, not a discount brand. They have been on my bike for a year now without issue so I suspect RedAndBlack may be onto something with the brake line slack.
I have a sneaking suspicion right now it could be the foot brake. About two days ago I started up my bike and the tail light was on. I reached down and pulled up the foot brake and the tail light went out. It hasn't done it again since. I never thought about it at the time other then just being a random one off thing. I wonder if it's no longer tripping the brake light but it is still tripping cruise control. I think two and two may be coming together here.
...The plot thickens.
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Post by av8er on Dec 16, 2017 5:42:39 GMT -7
RedAndBlack: All good pointers - I actually suspected brake line slack but I wasn't sure how to prove it. I'll check for those clicks before I head home from work today. I am aware of the speed/gear limitations and no offense taken. Would be an easy one to miss if you weren't previously aware. Checked the manual, no mention of a flashing cruise control light that I could find. Obviously indicative of a fault but no hints as to what. av8er: I have Pazzo Shorties on the bike, not a discount brand. They have been on my bike for a year now without issue so I suspect RedAndBlack may be onto something with the brake line slack. I have a sneaking suspicion right now it could be the foot brake. About two days ago I started up my bike and the tail light was on. I reached down and pulled up the foot brake and the tail light went out. It hasn't done it again since. I never thought about it at the time other then just being a random one off thing. I wonder if it's no longer tripping the brake light but it is still tripping cruise control. I think two and two may be coming together here. ...The plot thickens. It would sure seem that the rear brake would be a great place to start. That being said, almost any fault within the bike renders the cruise inactive(with flashing light) but when cruise itself is operating and either of the brakes are operated, cruise shuts off but does not begin flashing until resumed. Keep us posted because someone has had the problem or will eventually as well. I had the cruise light flashing at first after my ecu flash with FTECU but was easily remedied by going into the diagnostics.
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Post by ikranmakto on Dec 16, 2017 20:55:12 GMT -7
You may be correct in assuming it has something to do with the rear brake. I have seen this topic come up on another forum where the fault was with the brake switch. Would be good if you could post the outcome for a future reference when you get it sorted.
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Post by kup0236 on Jan 2, 2018 17:10:26 GMT -7
I just had an issue with mine where it did not flash but hitting the set button did not engage it. Checked all the brake and clutch switches and they worked fine. Seems mine was the side stand switch. I cleaned it up and it fixed it.
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Post by jrnair91 on Mar 13, 2018 2:09:26 GMT -7
I just had an issue with mine where it did not flash but hitting the set button did not engage it. Checked all the brake and clutch switches and they worked fine. Seems mine was the side stand switch. I cleaned it up and it fixed it. Hi I'm also having this issue. Brake and clutches have two clicks one for deactivate cc and one for brake lights etc. So it should not be my brake or clutch levers. Where is the side stand switch that I need to clean? Mind sending pictures or soemthing.
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Post by jrnair91 on Mar 13, 2018 2:43:41 GMT -7
I just cleaned my side stand switch. Hopefully all goes well.
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Post by kup0236 on Mar 13, 2018 4:13:36 GMT -7
My issue came back. It’s definitely the clutch switch. If I pull lightly on the clutch two or three times it will engage. Also when it’s warmer out it works fine. I ordered a clutch switch but it won’t be here til April 😡. So much for two day shipping🙄
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Post by evitzee on Mar 13, 2018 5:34:59 GMT -7
Shoot a little WD40 in the switch, you might have a little moisture in there.
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Post by daveinwoodland on Apr 20, 2019 9:59:35 GMT -7
I'm having the same issue and I initially isolated it to the front brake switch took it in to the dealer they swore up and down that the switch was fine and cleaned it test drove it for 45 miles and said it was fine, I pick it up get half way home after turning on the cruise control and the light starts falshing. They will now replace the front brake switch finally after waiting a week for them to "figure" it out, Hopefully it's not something else since you could see the brake light was staying on without the lever being pulled and it went out after I manually flicked the button on the switch by the lever tab.
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Post by thefinn on Apr 20, 2019 17:37:38 GMT -7
Its the button being stuck. Kf it was something else, manually pulling the button wouldnt turn off the brakelight.
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Post by willbuybikes on Apr 21, 2019 2:10:11 GMT -7
I had the flashing Cruise Control light as well. Had the dealer look at it twice (under warranty), first time the rear brake needed adjusting (brake light was also sticking on), that only lasted for a month. A few weeks ago they changed the front brake switch, saying it was faulty, the Cruise Control is still working fine now.
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Post by daveinwoodland on Apr 21, 2019 16:32:55 GMT -7
Yeah, I'm pretty confident that it's the front brake switch for myself as manually flicking the button in and out results in a temporary fix.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 13:44:34 GMT -7
Since the brake switch is actually a dual one, where the first 'click' is to cancel cruise (and happens almost immediately after moving the lever), and the second the brake light, it could be faulty even if the brake light is functioning properly. So check it, along with all other cruise switches on the throttle (past closed), clutch, and foot brake lever. You can actually hear both front brake lever switches 'click' both ways, so try it . If this happened to me, I'd probably just replace the switch myself if not too expensive.
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Post by daveinwoodland on May 4, 2019 9:55:03 GMT -7
Since the brake switch is actually a dual one, where the first 'click' is to cancel cruise (and happens almost immediately after moving the lever), and the second the brake light, it could be faulty even if the brake light is functioning properly. So check it, along with all other cruise switches on the throttle (past closed), clutch, and foot brake lever. You can actually hear both front brake lever switches 'click' both ways, so try it . If this happened to me, I'd probably just replace the switch myself if not too expensive. This was exactly the issue with mine. Replacing the front brake switch resolved my issue. And Yamaha has upgraded the entire part so that tells me something wasn't great with the original.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 13:39:41 GMT -7
Yamaha has upgraded the entire part so that tells me something wasn't great with the original. Hey, that's good to know. For us 2017 owners, it might not be a bad idea to change that switch preemptively. Thanks for the heads up.
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Post by owle on May 5, 2019 0:34:11 GMT -7
Yamaha has upgraded the entire part so that tells me something wasn't great with the original. Hey, that's good to know. For us 2017 owners, it might not be a bad idea to change that switch preemptively. Thanks for the heads up. And now the bad news ..... Had the rear brake light switch replaced under warranty on my 17 due to cruise control issue, went through me cleaning, adjusting and back and forth to the dealer so he could clean and adjust it before he gave up.
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