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Post by slv on Feb 6, 2017 9:57:33 GMT -7
This is for the guy who either doesn't want the cost and labor of the AIS block off plate installation, or like me, the guy who doesn't wat to violate th stock hardware. For example, I'll soon be moving overseas and want th emissions system intact for the export/import process. It's a simple process. 1. Follow the instructions for removing the air scoops and fuel tank. fz10.org/thread/442/scoop-removal-block-plate-install 2. Buy one of these. 3. Remove the top of the air box by removing the team screws around the perimeter and the one under the rubber plug in the center of the air box lid. 4. Locate the AIS port on the left side, inside the air box. 5. Apply a very small amount of high temp silicone to the threads of the insert shown in step two. 6. Screw the insert into the port until it is flush. 7. Put the bike back together.
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Post by mrhix on Feb 6, 2017 11:18:29 GMT -7
I did a similar thing to my FZ1 but ran the setscrew down into the hose and reconnected it to the airbox. Looked stock from the inside of the air box. Haven't made this mod to my FZ-10 yet.
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Post by mistaphelps on Feb 20, 2017 19:16:27 GMT -7
I've just done this and put everything in my bike back together, was putting tools away when I found the plug that goes over the center screw for the air box. Think I'll be fine without it? Or should I take her apart again and replug it?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 4:40:00 GMT -7
So simply plugging the port disables AIS? Do you unplug the pump also? Thx!~
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 5:30:30 GMT -7
So simply plugging the port disables AIS? Do you unplug the pump also? Thx!~ Unplugging the AIS pump without using an eliminator plug will cause a fault code. And if you're under the airbox already to unplug the AIS pump you might as well spend the $25 on blockoff plates and remove everything. AIS works by pumping fresh air from the airbox into the exhaust allowing it to burn completely before exiting at the muffler. The cat is also the primary noise control for the exhaust. When the cat is removed you get the popping noises from combustion in the exhaust. This plug method works by cutting off the source of fresh air. No air added to the exhaust, less combustion, less popping. When I disabled AIS I used blockoff plates and removed just about all the plumbing. I had to leave the AIS pump in place and connected to avoid the fault code but I have an eliminator plug that I can put in the next time I'm under the tank. Either way you do it, the end result is the same. slv's method is cheaper and faster, and as he said allows you to return to stock easily. Removing it is more permanent and a lot more work. Saves about a pound if you're into that sort of thing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 8:27:24 GMT -7
I have Nels flash so just looking to disable. Will get the plates but in the short term I will use this method, thanks!
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Post by yamasaki on May 5, 2017 12:28:57 GMT -7
Got a question..i plan on doing this vs block off plates...is this the only spot to plug the hose? Not thrilled about an item possibly coming loose in there...is there another spot to plug it outside the airbox?
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Post by slv on May 7, 2017 2:25:46 GMT -7
Got a question..i plan on doing this vs block off plates...is this the only spot to plug the hose? Not thrilled about an item possibly coming loose in there...is there another spot to plug it outside the airbox? Yes. You can unplug the hose on the lower left exterior of the air box and plug the hose itself. The method described above will never come loose. The plug shown in the picture threads itself into the plastic tube. It is very secure. I added high temp silicone to ensure a 100% complete seal, but it also aids in keeping the plug installed.
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Post by yamasaki on May 7, 2017 8:30:55 GMT -7
ok.. is either method easier? does the other way you mentioned require removing the gas tank also? if so i assume both methods are about the same amount of dissasembly
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Post by slv on May 18, 2017 17:17:59 GMT -7
Yes. You remove the tank, but not the air box or the AIS hardware, to plug the hose, you can do it from the front by lowering the radiator. It's hard to reach, but not impossible.
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Post by aussiemt10guy on Mar 1, 2020 6:11:50 GMT -7
Hi,
Noob question but can someone clarify what screw to use here? I have a de-cat pipe installed with no tune and the decel pops are starting to annoy me. Looks simple enough to do and easily reversible, this should remove them almost completely, right?
Cheers and TIA!
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Post by gunnar on Mar 1, 2020 8:22:10 GMT -7
Hi, Noob question but can someone clarify what screw to use here? I have a de-cat pipe installed with no tune and the decel pops are starting to annoy me. Looks simple enough to do and easily reversible, this should remove them almost completely, right? Cheers and TIA! The OP said a 3/8"-16 X 5/8" socket head set screw. The length isn't as critical as the diameter, that 3/8" diameter will self-thread into the airbox hole, and the silcone will help seal it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 16:44:58 GMT -7
Hey Aussie, another option to achieve the same goal is a rubber plug and a clamp, and simpler too . Hope this helps.
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Post by scribbler on Apr 2, 2020 2:45:33 GMT -7
With this method i take it the pump still works does this not show a fault code as the pump is under pressure ?
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Post by scribbler on Apr 2, 2020 2:54:38 GMT -7
also what is metric size equivalent for the plug??
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Post by gunnar on Apr 2, 2020 7:21:07 GMT -7
also what is metric size equivalent for the plug?? 10mm is closest, but I think it will be too big to thread into the airbox.
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Post by gunnar on Apr 2, 2020 7:23:55 GMT -7
With this method i take it the pump still works does this not show a fault code as the pump is under pressure ? It will not show a fault code if you keep the electrical connection plugged in.
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