adrenaline99
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Post by adrenaline99 on Oct 25, 2022 22:26:59 GMT -7
Hello, I have never had my ECU flashed before but I plan on getting one for my 2022 mt-10 once I get my akrapovic exhaust. First I was wondering who the best company is to perform flashes on Mt-10s (leaning towards 2WDW). Secondly, how much will the MPG be affected? As it is already pretty low I am worried about lowering it even more. And then lastly does ecu flashing void my warranty or cause any problems with diagnostics etc? Thanks.
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maxxj
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Post by maxxj on Oct 26, 2022 5:56:23 GMT -7
Hello, I have never had my ECU flashed before but I plan on getting one for my 2022 mt-10 once I get my akrapovic exhaust. First I was wondering who the best company is to perform flashes on Mt-10s (leaning towards 2WDW). Secondly, how much will the MPG be affected? As it is already pretty low I am worried about lowering it even more. And then lastly does ecu flashing void my warranty or cause any problems with diagnostics etc? Thanks. Who does it is just what you prefer. 2WDW is good and they disable the AIS so you don't need to install block offs to stop the popping and backfiring. It's my understanding that they have maps for most configurations too. People like Moore Mafia are good as well but I don't think they offer as much. MPG on mine woth a 2WDW flash is 28-32 depending on how hard I'm running it. Don't know about the warranty, your dealer would be able to tell you about it. It's a pretty common thing so they'll know for sure. Any kind of diagnostic stuff would be unchanged. |
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adrenaline99
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Post by adrenaline99 on Oct 26, 2022 10:14:27 GMT -7
Hello, I have never had my ECU flashed before but I plan on getting one for my 2022 mt-10 once I get my akrapovic exhaust. First I was wondering who the best company is to perform flashes on Mt-10s (leaning towards 2WDW). Secondly, how much will the MPG be affected? As it is already pretty low I am worried about lowering it even more. And then lastly does ecu flashing void my warranty or cause any problems with diagnostics etc? Thanks. Who does it is just what you prefer. 2WDW is good and they disable the AIS so you don't need to install block offs to stop the popping and backfiring. It's my understanding that they have maps for most configurations too. People like Moore Mafia are good as well but I don't think they offer as much. MPG on mine woth a 2WDW flash is 28-32 depending on how hard I'm running it. Don't know about the warranty, your dealer would be able to tell you about it. It's a pretty common thing so they'll know for sure. Any kind of diagnostic stuff would be unchanged. Thanks for the info. What MPG were you getting before the flash? So the 2WDW is completely plug and play? |
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Post by jmm0122 on Oct 26, 2022 15:05:43 GMT -7
Hello, I have never had my ECU flashed before but I plan on getting one for my 2022 mt-10 once I get my akrapovic exhaust. First I was wondering who the best company is to perform flashes on Mt-10s (leaning towards 2WDW). Secondly, how much will the MPG be affected? As it is already pretty low I am worried about lowering it even more. And then lastly does ecu flashing void my warranty or cause any problems with diagnostics etc? Thanks. Who does it is just what you prefer. 2WDW is good and they disable the AIS so you don't need to install block offs to stop the popping and backfiring. It's my understanding that they have maps for most configurations too. People like Moore Mafia are good as well but I don't think they offer as much. MPG on mine woth a 2WDW flash is 28-32 depending on how hard I'm running it. Don't know about the warranty, your dealer would be able to tell you about it. It's a pretty common thing so they'll know for sure. Any kind of diagnostic stuff would be unchanged. The 22's are slightly different then the previous generation when it comes to tunes. I've asked Nate at 2wdw about all the below info so it's accurate. AIS can't be disabled in the tune so block off plates or plug are needed so it doesn't pop and bang. Also if you will need to either keep the AIS and EXUP plugged in or use a servo buddy on both of you want to retain cruise control. You also have to leave the O2's plugged in or cruise control won't work. O2'S are disabled in the tune but the computer needs to see the signal for cruise control, it's weird. So far as mgp, you can expect a loss of a few mpg as removing the cat means the bike needs more fuel. Lastly warranty can only be voided if they prove the modification caused the problem. For instance if you flash your bike and the screen stops working they will still fix it. If you blow it up and it's flashed though it will be hit or miss on what they do. |
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adrenaline99
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Post by adrenaline99 on Oct 26, 2022 22:01:42 GMT -7
Who does it is just what you prefer. 2WDW is good and they disable the AIS so you don't need to install block offs to stop the popping and backfiring. It's my understanding that they have maps for most configurations too. People like Moore Mafia are good as well but I don't think they offer as much. MPG on mine woth a 2WDW flash is 28-32 depending on how hard I'm running it. Don't know about the warranty, your dealer would be able to tell you about it. It's a pretty common thing so they'll know for sure. Any kind of diagnostic stuff would be unchanged. The 22's are slightly different then the previous generation when it comes to tunes. I've asked Nate at 2wdw about all the below info so it's accurate. AIS can't be disabled in the tune so block off plates or plug are needed so it doesn't pop and bang. Also if you will need to either keep the AIS and EXUP plugged in or use a servo buddy on both of you want to retain cruise control. You also have to leave the O2's plugged in or cruise control won't work. O2'S are disabled in the tune but the computer needs to see the signal for cruise control, it's weird. So far as mgp, you can expect a loss of a few mpg as removing the cat means the bike needs more fuel. Lastly warranty can only be voided if they prove the modification caused the problem. For instance if you flash your bike and the screen stops working they will still fix it. If you blow it up and it's flashed though it will be hit or miss on what they do. What are block off plates/plugs? And are they hard to install? |
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maxxj
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Post by maxxj on Oct 27, 2022 4:04:42 GMT -7
Good point on the 22 info, I missed that part.
Mine is a 19 and had a Moore flash when I bought it, it was getting about 30ish MPG for the 4 days I rode it before parking it for an exhaust and flash. PO put an ebay exhaust on it and was too loud even with foam earplugs.
The plates are easy in my opinion, it's just nuts bolts and a couple hoses. Pull the tank up, loosen the airbox and remove it, the AIS is under there. Should just unplug and unbolt then you fasten the plates in their place. There's guides on youtube. The pops and bangs aren't harmful by the way, it's just preference. Some tuners have maps to make more pops and I've even seen Moore make one sound clean and smooth but breathe fire on decel if you put just a light twist on the throttle. If you're not sure then the best thing you could do is just change one thing at a time until it's exactly how you like it.
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windyrun
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Post by windyrun on Oct 29, 2022 4:01:35 GMT -7
How long is the warranty in the US?
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maxxj
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Post by maxxj on Oct 30, 2022 5:16:44 GMT -7
Pretty sure it's 2 years, optional upgrade to 5.
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Post by mt10orc on Oct 30, 2022 12:33:08 GMT -7
How long is the warranty in the US? My 2020 had one year warranty. |
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nokz
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Post by nokz on Oct 31, 2022 5:37:38 GMT -7
Granted, you're on a '22; My '20 gets about 27 MPG with the MM Tune.
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Post by willl84 on Oct 31, 2022 10:40:46 GMT -7
Pretty sure it's 2 years, optional upgrade to 5. USA is one year standard. Granted, you're on a '22; My '20 gets about 27 MPG with the MM Tune. My 19 is averaging 29.4 over ~9400 miles with the 2WDW flash. |
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Post by semprenissart on Nov 3, 2022 20:12:57 GMT -7
my 22 is averaging 37 mpg on my round trip commute (10 miles of surface roads and 20 miles of freeway) and 33 mpg when I use it to have "fun".
i'm waiting to receive my AR exhaust (week 14 of waiting so hopefully it'll arrive soon) then will send my ECU to 2WDW.
I'll come back and report my new mpg once I have the exhaust and the flash
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Post by semprenissart on Feb 6, 2023 21:34:35 GMT -7
With the AR and ECU flash by 2wdw it’s a whole new beast. I love it.
MPG went down a bit though. 34-35 mpg on my commute (75-80 mph on the freeway) and 29-30 mpg if I want to giggle like a kid.
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Post by mt10orc on Feb 6, 2023 21:48:15 GMT -7
With the AR and ECU flash by 2wdw it’s a whole new beast. I love it. MPG went down a bit though. 34-35 mpg on my commute (75-80 mph on the freeway) and 29-30 mpg if I want to giggle like a kid. Giggling like a kid is what is all about. |
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Post by semprenissart on Apr 17, 2023 8:14:12 GMT -7
With the AR and ECU flash by 2wdw it’s a whole new beast. I love it. MPG went down a bit though. 34-35 mpg on my commute (75-80 mph on the freeway) and 29-30 mpg if I want to giggle like a kid. About 1k miles later I’m getting 36-37 mpg on the freeway at a steady 80mph |
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Post by squiresca on Apr 18, 2023 6:41:46 GMT -7
The 22's are slightly different then the previous generation when it comes to tunes. I've asked Nate at 2wdw about all the below info so it's accurate. AIS can't be disabled in the tune so block off plates or plug are needed so it doesn't pop and bang. Also if you will need to either keep the AIS and EXUP plugged in or use a servo buddy on both of you want to retain cruise control. You also have to leave the O2's plugged in or cruise control won't work. O2'S are disabled in the tune but the computer needs to see the signal for cruise control, it's weird. So far as mgp, you can expect a loss of a few mpg as removing the cat means the bike needs more fuel. Lastly warranty can only be voided if they prove the modification caused the problem. For instance if you flash your bike and the screen stops working they will still fix it. If you blow it up and it's flashed though it will be hit or miss on what they do. What are block off plates/plugs? And are they hard to install? I literally just made a video about this yesterday, showing how you can disable AIS completely, with a marble. |
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englishmaddog123
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Ive got myself a 2023 mt10 what a great bike. I am after some help regarding getting it flashed
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Post by englishmaddog123 on May 19, 2023 3:18:36 GMT -7
Does anybody know if my 2023 bike will just accept a ( New ) Different speedometer will it bring up error codes or just plug in and work, mine has been damaged from something falling in my garage.
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Post by vulcanator on May 19, 2023 9:30:06 GMT -7
My 2019 has the flash and a 42 tooth rear sprocket. Riding between 60-80 in 5th and 6th gears I got 39 mpg. When I started giving it more stick, it drops to about 30-32 mpg.
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