thepianoman77
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Post by thepianoman77 on Sept 26, 2022 15:22:23 GMT -7
Hello y’all. *2021 MT-10*
I’ve been having issues with the autoblip function of the FTECU quickshifter. At random times, the bike will blip twice before downshift. Very scary when it happened the first time. It usually happens when going from 4 to 3 and from 3 to 2. Anyone else experience this and know what might be causing it?
My first thought was that it was related with the battery, since it started occurring after I installed grip warmers. (Still running stock battery). But I keep it on a battery tender any time the bike is not rolling. But the battery is barely 1.5 years old.
Any input or suggestion are appreciated. Thanks guys.
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Post by mt10orc on Sept 26, 2022 23:10:13 GMT -7
Hello y’all. *2021 MT-10* I’ve been having issues with the autoblip function of the FTECU quickshifter. At random times, the bike will blip twice before downshift. Very scary when it happened the first time. It usually happens when going from 4 to 3 and from 3 to 2. Anyone else experience this and know what might be causing it? My first thought was that it was related with the battery, since it started occurring after I installed grip warmers. (Still running stock battery). But I keep it on a battery tender any time the bike is not rolling. But the battery is barely 1.5 years old. Any input or suggestion are appreciated. Thanks guys. Pretty sure Will84 is having same issue he will probably chime in. |
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Post by willl84 on Sept 27, 2022 6:08:22 GMT -7
Yep, I've bene having that issue since day one with it as well, also most of the time on the 3-2 downshift but it has happened on every other.
I've been in contact with both 2WDW and FTECU. 2WDW said there's no timing adjustments or anything for the blipper function on the MT-10 as far as the ECU goes, it's just there.
FTECU has replaced my sensor with the newest style so far and that didn't change anything. They've had me flip the sensor over and also flip the entire linkage so that the sensor's functions were reversed (push is now pull, etc) and nothing worked.
Sometimes I'll ride an it won't happen at all and other times it'll happen multiple times during the ride. I'm at the point where I'm considering asking for a refund and buying the translogic unit instead because that has its own computer module that's adjustable.
I just shot off another email to FTECU with a link to this thread to show that it's not just a one-off problem.
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Post by thepianoman77 on Sept 27, 2022 18:33:18 GMT -7
Yep, I've bene having that issue since day one with it as well, also most of the time on the 3-2 downshift but it has happened on every other. I've been in contact with both 2WDW and FTECU. 2WDW said there's no timing adjustments or anything for the blipper function on the MT-10 as far as the ECU goes, it's just there. FTECU has replaced my sensor with the newest style so far and that didn't change anything. They've had me flip the sensor over and also flip the entire linkage so that the sensor's functions were reversed (push is now pull, etc) and nothing worked. Sometimes I'll ride an it won't happen at all and other times it'll happen multiple times during the ride. I'm at the point where I'm considering asking for a refund and buying the translogic unit instead because that has its own computer module that's adjustable. I just shot off another email to FTECU with a link to this thread to show that it's not just a one-off problem. Looks like there is corrosion on mine. Did yours have this? |
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Post by thepianoman77 on Sept 27, 2022 18:39:12 GMT -7
Here’s a pic of the corrosion  |
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Post by willl84 on Sept 28, 2022 4:46:42 GMT -7
Here’s a pic of the corrosion That looks like the old style sensor as well. The new one they sent me has a clear silicone cover over the whole thing. My original one was also really loose internally, the new one is much tighter. I haven't noticed any corrosion though on either but haven't looked closely at the new one. Here's the updated one:  |
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Post by willl84 on Sept 28, 2022 4:54:43 GMT -7
Here’s a pic of the corrosion I'll also add that the double-blipping has been happening since day one. So two different sensors and every possible mounting orientation for the new sensor and it still does it. The fact that it's mainly on the 3-2 downshift for both you and I has me thinking it's something mechanical with the bike itself. I do notice if I pay attention to the shifter lever on my shoe I'll feel it pop downwards off my shoe then pop back up and hit it. This doesn't always cause a double blip though. It would seem there would need to be some kind of delay in sensor readings on the ECU - maybe a 1/2 to 3/4 second delay before registering a second trigger. But 2WDW says there's no adjustments. I also haven't gotten a response from FTECU after the email I sent yesterday with a link to this thread. |
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Post by thepianoman77 on Sept 28, 2022 12:06:28 GMT -7
Here’s a pic of the corrosion I'll also add that the double-blipping has been happening since day one. So two different sensors and every possible mounting orientation for the new sensor and it still does it. The fact that it's mainly on the 3-2 downshift for both you and I has me thinking it's something mechanical with the bike itself. I do notice if I pay attention to the shifter lever on my shoe I'll feel it pop downwards off my shoe then pop back up and hit it. This doesn't always cause a double blip though. It would seem there would need to be some kind of delay in sensor readings on the ECU - maybe a 1/2 to 3/4 second delay before registering a second trigger. But 2WDW says there's no adjustments. I also haven't gotten a response from FTECU after the email I sent yesterday with a link to this thread. After a day of trying to see if something would help, I started getting throttle disengagement without touching the shifter. Multiple times in a row causing the bike to jerk a lot. Brought it back in and tried different orientations, cleaning all the connections, making sure everything is connected properly. And nothing, the unit now doesn’t register any input, no throttle cut and no autoblip. I think it’s dead… so I hope I can send it in for testing and get a new one. It’s really frustrating as it hasn’t even been a year since I got this Ftecu quickshifter/autoblipper… or get a full refund for the 450 or however much it cost. Should’ve gotten the translogic one. But getting the flash, the map from 2WDW was just more convenient. 😫 |
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Post by willl84 on Sept 29, 2022 8:47:52 GMT -7
I'll also add that the double-blipping has been happening since day one. So two different sensors and every possible mounting orientation for the new sensor and it still does it. The fact that it's mainly on the 3-2 downshift for both you and I has me thinking it's something mechanical with the bike itself. I do notice if I pay attention to the shifter lever on my shoe I'll feel it pop downwards off my shoe then pop back up and hit it. This doesn't always cause a double blip though. It would seem there would need to be some kind of delay in sensor readings on the ECU - maybe a 1/2 to 3/4 second delay before registering a second trigger. But 2WDW says there's no adjustments. I also haven't gotten a response from FTECU after the email I sent yesterday with a link to this thread. After a day of trying to see if something would help, I started getting throttle disengagement without touching the shifter. Multiple times in a row causing the bike to jerk a lot. Brought it back in and tried different orientations, cleaning all the connections, making sure everything is connected properly. And nothing, the unit now doesn’t register any input, no throttle cut and no autoblip. I think it’s dead… so I hope I can send it in for testing and get a new one. It’s really frustrating as it hasn’t even been a year since I got this Ftecu quickshifter/autoblipper… or get a full refund for the 450 or however much it cost. Should’ve gotten the translogic one. But getting the flash, the map from 2WDW was just more convenient. 😫 Definitely email FTECU, they should send you a new sensor no charge. I had tos end mine in and then they sent me the newest style one. I still haven't gotten a reply from them yet. I'm also thinking of seeing if they'll just refund me for and I'll get the translogic one. I too got the FTECU because it was less money and no dyno setup required - just have 2WDW do the flash and boom. |
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Post by thepianoman77 on Sept 29, 2022 19:56:26 GMT -7
willl84I emailed FTECU on Tuesday and still haven’t heard back from them. I sent them an email from the thread I had with them at the beginning *10/03/2021 (since I had issues with it from the start as well) and also sent them a brand new email stating the problem. So 2 emails in total. At this point, since you had issues with your new one as well, I’m leaning towards a refund as well. Also, I thought the translogic one was plug and play type of deal. A bit more involved, but plug and play none the less. Don’t wanna be spending another grand on this bull if it needs to go to a dyno. God I hope the 2022 quickshifter/autoblipper is compatible with our bikes. Probably not, but one can be hopeful.
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Post by willl84 on Sept 30, 2022 5:44:45 GMT -7
willl84 I emailed FTECU on Tuesday and still haven’t heard back from them. I sent them an email from the thread I had with them at the beginning *10/03/2021 (since I had issues with it from the start as well) and also sent them a brand new email stating the problem. So 2 emails in total. At this point, since you had issues with your new one as well, I’m leaning towards a refund as well. Also, I thought the translogic one was plug and play type of deal. A bit more involved, but plug and play none the less. Don’t wanna be spending another grand on this bull if it needs to go to a dyno. God I hope the 2022 quickshifter/autoblipper is compatible with our bikes. Probably not, but one can be hopeful. Yea the translogic is a bit of an install from what I've seen. I also doubt the 22 unit is compatible as with the FTECU you need to swap that pin on the ECU harness. I believe the pin you remove works the AIS valve but I'm not 100% sure on that. You might be able to get a wiring diagram and compare the two and make it work though |
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Post by thepianoman77 on Oct 1, 2022 8:53:08 GMT -7
They replied and said to send it in and they’ll send me a new version of it. 🤞hopefully it works
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Post by willl84 on Oct 2, 2022 3:55:11 GMT -7
They replied and said to send it in and they’ll send me a new version of it. 🤞hopefully it works Seeing how I have the new version and it still double blips I doubt it lol. I got this from them Friday afternoon: I don't have the bike side harness but I do see they sell it and also this USB datalogger add-on that hooks into that 6-pin harness. |
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Post by mt10orc on Oct 2, 2022 8:10:25 GMT -7
They replied and said to send it in and they’ll send me a new version of it. 🤞hopefully it works Seeing how I have the new version and it still double blips I doubt it lol. I got this from them Friday afternoon: I don't have the bike side harness but I do see they sell it and also this USB datalogger add-on that hooks into that 6-pin harness. That thing isn’t cheap either. Guess if you are into dialing you bike to perfection it’s worth it. |
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Post by thepianoman77 on Oct 3, 2022 21:28:43 GMT -7
willl84Tell them because of your issues, you should get the side harness for free for testing and diagnosing puposes. Cause this is some bull. We pay premium money for a less than premium product. It's not ok.
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Post by willl84 on Oct 4, 2022 8:22:23 GMT -7
willl84 Tell them because of your issues, you should get the side harness for free for testing and diagnosing puposes. Cause this is some bull. We pay premium money for a less than premium product. It's not ok. I haven't heard back from them since I replied that I do not have one. MY assumption was they'd send one over for me to datalog and then I'd send it back, but who knows. I know someone selling a NIB translogic unit for $400. I'm SEVERELY tempted to get it and then just talk to fTECU about a refund or just sell it on my own and take the loss to be done with the annoyance. |
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Post by willl84 on Oct 6, 2022 5:48:14 GMT -7
willl84 Tell them because of your issues, you should get the side harness for free for testing and diagnosing puposes. Cause this is some bull. We pay premium money for a less than premium product. It's not ok. I sent them another email saying that riding season is coming to a close and I'd like to get this figured out and this is what they replied: Looks like I know what I'm doing this weekend lol |
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Post by mt10orc on Oct 6, 2022 19:09:55 GMT -7
LOL, well at least u get to ride my friend. It really sucks they are complacent about the whole thing.
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Post by willl84 on Oct 7, 2022 5:58:09 GMT -7
LOL, well at least u get to ride my friend. It really sucks they are complacent about the whole thing. I'm probably going to do it after work tonight. The sensor connector is easy to get to, it's right over the sprocket cover. Should take 5 minutes to push a pair of paperclips into the appropriate wires and get the voltage readings in each gear with the key on. |
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Post by willl84 on Oct 7, 2022 17:18:05 GMT -7
Here's what I got, took longer to find a paper clip and cut it than it did try get the voltages lol. 1: 0.736 N: 1.088 2: 1.440 3: 2.149 4: 2.858 5: 3.561 6: 4.269  |
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