dfelt
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Post by dfelt on Sept 14, 2022 16:52:26 GMT -7
Grr.Yesterday in garage,accidentally knocked 2017 over on r.h.side.Little scuff on throttle handlebar and exh.cover.S..T.
Today I'm out town 15 min. after no problems then a bit of hiccup/throttle .*Flashed ecu via SBU stateside since I first boughtin 17'and not one lick of problem ever.
Amber check engine light comes on (oil level...fine,engine temp...fine.I pull over,shut off ,check two molex connectors to ecu,etc.Restart and will limp it back home b/c is ok @ 5,ooo rpm.Then the red oil press.warning light comes on.I shut it off.Called for trailer to get home.
Something to do with when it fell over?Catastrophic oil filter blockage?I disconnected battery for a while reconnected but still red oil warning light on continuous.Can a dealer code reader maybe i.d.?I've had better days.
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dfelt
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Post by dfelt on Sept 14, 2022 17:38:41 GMT -7
Restarted in garage and listen/watch .Comes up to a normal idle speed and temp but when I open throttle a bit it coughs/dies.Would seem to be a fuelling issue.Wonder if happened when over on it's side yesterday?BTW, I thought I heard a bit of whining noise yesterdays ride( I have crap hearing but believe so).Possibly fuel pump or upstream strainer esp. when was over on it's side?
I will see if I can find ohmic values for throttle positioner .Anybody maybe shed some light please?
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dfelt
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Post by dfelt on Sept 14, 2022 19:05:08 GMT -7
Anybody know if I get a 4 pin to OBD2 adaptor and an OBD scanner should be able to pull error codes and possibly be able to electrically troubleshoot sensors or components ?
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Post by RedAndBlack on Sept 14, 2022 19:32:34 GMT -7
There's stuck air. Burp the oil filter. Take it off then reinstall it. Prepare for some oil leaking.
if it continues to stall, You may even need to slightly loosen the filter and actually run the bike for a few seconds (oil will shoot out a bit) but what you described in the garage sounds like air trapped in the oil pump. I'm not 100 % about this method but it's what you do when you have air trapped in the coolant pump and it is what I would try.
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Post by willl84 on Sept 15, 2022 4:45:06 GMT -7
The CEL won't come on for anything oil related. CEL comes on for EFI related items. Low oil pressure is another problem entirely
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dfelt
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Post by dfelt on Sept 16, 2022 7:45:09 GMT -7
A little dubious about the air lock but I went ahead and changed both oil and new filter( was going to do at end of season anyway).As far as the sometimes stall when into gear...I removed and cleaned all assoc. with kickstand sw. Ohmic check w/meter to ensure is good.Lordy, it will not get more than 4-5 k rpm,sometimes slight open on throttle and dies , some ignition off/ on cycles and the fuel pump doesn't sound like normal.
I have the OBD2 adaptor and a generic reader ordered Amazon.Don't know how many pertinent codes it will divulge as opposed to a designated Yamaha one.Anybody know where I can get the Yammie type? My son has an MT -07 where could use it too.
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Post by dfelt on Sept 16, 2022 7:48:31 GMT -7
As a general overview, does the ECU attempt to run by changing parammeters as it needs to?I have just found an e-copy of 658 pg.service manual so I will look for info.
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Post by kratosfz10 on Sept 16, 2022 11:31:20 GMT -7
Did the red oil light go out and stay off after you changed the oil/filter?
Did the bike go down hard, or were you trying to stop it so it just slowly went down?
Was the bike on when it went down?
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dfelt
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Post by dfelt on Sept 16, 2022 20:25:37 GMT -7
The red CEL stays on.At times,it will idle for a minute or so but when I open throttle will only do 4-5k rpm and sputter. I have taken the kickstand safety switch off and cleaned all... checked to ensure it opens and closes properly by checking at the dust cover boot and the connector above the kickstand.Bonehead move by yours truly and bike got knocked over on the R.H.side ( front brake /throttle) w/engine off.It went down hard.The OBD2 adaptor and reader are coming.In meantime ,I will check service manual for ie. throttle sending assbly.to accelerator sending unit.* All kinds of components that do not like a jolt.
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Post by parthz8 on Sept 18, 2022 3:26:41 GMT -7
dfelt let me know if your OBD2 Scanner works and read data/error on MT 10 and share details accordingly. I ordered MaxiScan MS509 OBDII Automotive Code Reader Scanner last year along with 4 Pin to OBD2 Diagnostic Plug Adapter Cable for Yamaha and tried to read OEM ECU on on R1M and it doesnt communicate (ECU with no flash)...
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dfelt
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Post by dfelt on Sept 18, 2022 16:06:46 GMT -7
I got the obd2 scanner ...Autel AL301 and the 4 pin adaptor.NOTHING displayed for code.It will not pick up VIN # either.I tried it on my 11' Ford Escape which has A/C problem .NOTHING.All it did is show the VIN # of that vehicle.I would like to know if anybody has used the Yamaha specific code reader and what it will divulge.
The bike will start/die sometimes ,sometimes idle till up to temp ok but when I tried going around my small close it dies if give slight throttle( red oil warning light on) and then will not start for a while.I have to bone up on the service manual ,specifics like accelerator send unit ohmic and dcv values.
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Post by dfelt on Sept 18, 2022 16:26:13 GMT -7
I've watched the video and posts by Twoten.A bit of similarity that I had when I tried limping it back home.It has morphed into what shows on my last post.I think I need to look @ the both the TPS and the APS... possibly the servo motor once I get the tank etc, lifted to watch the throttle bodie.I have a lot going on now plus another bike to get my 'wind therapy' so it may be a winter garage project * poss.3 wks. away where I live.
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