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Post by willl84 on Apr 2, 2022 11:57:02 GMT -7
I've got my airbox off to do my brake lines and I'm wondering if I should remove in intake snorkel. I've seen people do it on YouTube and even here I think. Wondering if it's worth the effort or not. I'm already flashed by 2WDW. I just got my ECU back from them for the second time for the autoblipper update and I think they updated the mapping as well because they emailed me to ask what exhaust I had. Anyone have any input? TIA
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mt1021
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Post by mt1021 on Apr 2, 2022 13:09:13 GMT -7
How straight forward was it to remove the tank?
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Post by willl84 on Apr 2, 2022 14:04:17 GMT -7
How straight forward was it to remove the tank? It's not too bad. Starts at 0:39: |
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Post by smokinfz10 on Apr 3, 2022 20:47:09 GMT -7
I talked to Nate at 2WDW and he does not recommend removing the snorkel. I will not get into details about it, but you should call Nate on this.
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Post by willl84 on Apr 4, 2022 3:52:05 GMT -7
I talked to Nate at 2WDW and he does not recommend removing the snorkel. I will not get into details about it, but you should call Nate on this. Alright, that's all I needed to know, thanks for the info! |
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Post by clayton on Apr 4, 2022 5:49:20 GMT -7
Also don’t run a k/n
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Post by willl84 on Apr 4, 2022 6:04:37 GMT -7
That's a given. They're trash lol. I had a BMC in it all last year but I think I'm going to put the stock back in it, don't feel like dealing with cleaning and oiling and stuff lol |
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Post by weehe on Apr 4, 2022 7:45:08 GMT -7
I talked to Nate at 2WDW and he does not recommend removing the snorkel. I will not get into details about it, but you should call Nate on this. I already did the mod before getting a flash. Wondering what the issue would be. Poor air flow? Just seemed crazy that I was only using around 15% of the air filter based on where the dirt was. |
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Post by willl84 on Apr 5, 2022 9:34:35 GMT -7
I talked to Nate at 2WDW and he does not recommend removing the snorkel. I will not get into details about it, but you should call Nate on this. I already did the mod before getting a flash. Wondering what the issue would be. Poor air flow? Just seemed crazy that I was only using around 15% of the air filter based on where the dirt was. That was my thinking too - seeing the tiny spot where the dirt was collecting lol. |
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Post by willl84 on Apr 5, 2022 9:42:16 GMT -7
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Post by RedAndBlack on Apr 5, 2022 12:05:08 GMT -7
Hahahaha, That's awesome for GTA
I'm just catching up on this thread. If I had to take a shot on why Nate recommends leaving the snorkel, it's to maximize the Ram Air effect on the air being pushed into the Airbox.
"The ram-air intake works by reducing the intake air velocity by increasing the cross-sectional area of the intake ducting. When gas velocity goes down the dynamic pressure is reduced, while the static pressure is increased. The increased static pressure in the plenum chamber has a positive effect on engine power, both because of the pressure itself and the increased air density that this higher pressure gives."
I'm definitely not a wind tunnel science and I don't know if our bike even has a true Ram Air type intake, but that's my best guess.
I don't imagine there's much to be gained or lost either way. Only thing else I would be concerned with is water getting into the intake during heavy rain or washing the bike.
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Post by willl84 on Apr 5, 2022 18:08:59 GMT -7
Hahahaha, That's awesome for GTA I'm just catching up on this thread. If I had to take a shot on why Nate recommends leaving the snorkel, it's to maximize the Ram Air effect on the air being pushed into the Airbox. "The ram-air intake works by reducing the intake air velocity by increasing the cross-sectional area of the intake ducting. When gas velocity goes down the dynamic pressure is reduced, while the static pressure is increased. The increased static pressure in the plenum chamber has a positive effect on engine power, both because of the pressure itself and the increased air density that this higher pressure gives." I'm definitely not a wind tunnel science and I don't know if our bike even has a true Ram Air type intake, but that's my best guess. I don't imagine there's much to be gained or lost either way. Only thing else I would be concerned with is water getting into the intake during heavy rain or washing the bike. Good thought and for the R1 that'd make sense. But the MT doesn't have the intake ducts like the R1, it just pulls air from behind the headlight area. Still could be for the same reason though |
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Post by RedAndBlack on Apr 6, 2022 12:52:42 GMT -7
Good thought and for the R1 that'd make sense. But the MT doesn't have the intake ducts like the R1, it just pulls air from behind the headlight area. Still could be for the same reason though Yea, I guess you're right. This is the first time I realized we don't have an intake like that.  |
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Post by weehe on Apr 7, 2022 10:07:37 GMT -7
I assumed it was something to do with ram air, but it didn't make sense to me since it was so small. It might be a benefit for 1000 miles, but once that 1"x2" section of the filter becomes really dirty it assumed it would be a hindrance. In addition there is a bunch of stuff in the way to actually have a meaningful amount of air ram. My assumption was having the full air filter open would act as a larger plenum intake. Larger plenum means better performance at higher rpms. Since we already have better low end torque than a R1 I figured it couldn't hurt.
After my post I really started thinking how to turn the side pods into actual air rams. But haven't taken anything apart to check feasibility.
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Post by willl84 on Apr 7, 2022 11:20:30 GMT -7
After my post I really started thinking how to turn the side pods into actual air rams. But haven't taken anything apart to check feasibility. Not possible unfortunately as the "elbows" of them go right into the side of the tank. I mean it's possible, but not without tank modifications. |
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Post by mt1021 on Apr 7, 2022 17:02:49 GMT -7
After my post I really started thinking how to turn the side pods into actual air rams. But haven't taken anything apart to check feasibility. Not possible unfortunately as the "elbows" of them go right into the side of the tank. I mean it's possible, but not without tank modifications. Fuse box and relays relocation would a pita too. Worthy taking on to me if doing so and modifying the tank for more capacity. |
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Post by willl84 on Apr 8, 2022 17:41:30 GMT -7
Not possible unfortunately as the "elbows" of them go right into the side of the tank. I mean it's possible, but not without tank modifications. Fuse box and relays relocation would a pita too. Worthy taking on to me if doing so and modifying the tank for more capacity. I was wrong - the sides go under the lip of the tank and right to the side of the airbox. Some modifications could make that work.     |
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