oldfrank
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Post by oldfrank on Sept 5, 2021 18:40:26 GMT -7
So, having had the MT-10 for a month and 3,000 miles, I noticed I was getting higher than most of the reported AND advertised MPG. Almost 40 MPG actually. I don't go out of my way to drive efficiently, hovering those power wheelies a few inches gets addictive... I ride about 50/50 city and country roads, never highway (boring) but I also don't pin it every chance I get, which is a shame really, this is a hell of a fun ride, but I do need my driver's license to go to work...
Anyhow, today, I did a little test. Instead of riding like I am used to, in the highest gear that will keep the RPM between 3k and 4k, I made it my goal to keep the RPM around 5.5k to 6.5k, which means I didn't even touch 5th or 6th gear at all...
Well well, wouldn't you know, MPG went way, WAY down. To almost 25!
Now maybe I am doing it wrong, but the bike runs great at anything above 3k RPM, a few quick blips and downshifts wakes it up nicely when I need to pass someone, but maybe I am doing the MT-10 wrong?
Penny for your thoughts?
-Frank
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Post by RedAndBlack on Sept 5, 2021 18:47:00 GMT -7
Due to the riding I do which is often canyon carving and track riding I'm usually near the max horsepower of every gear so I'll usually be between 6-10.5k most of the time. Of course I get shit gas mileage, my light usually comes on around 90 miles. 3-4k is too low. You're extremely low in the powerband. I wouldn't be going that low unless I was commuting or just cruising. Canyon carving you would almost certainly crash at those low RPMs if you tried to be agresive. You pretty much have no engine braking at that low RPM, you're below the powerband, and the bike is less stable and more likely to bog down if you need to cut the throttle and turn the bike. Even on a regular street ride, if you were down at 3k and you had to take evasive action against a car coming into your right of way, you'd bog the bike down when you cut the throttle and it wouldn't turn.
For riding that's not quite canyon carving but not just cruising, I would ride in the middle of the powerband, probably between 4-8k. The bike will be most responsive in this powerband while not completely murdering your fuel mileage.
Basically more RPMs is more fuel consumption. Pretty simple. If you got this bike for fuel efficiency, 😬😬😬
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oldfrank
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Post by oldfrank on Sept 5, 2021 18:54:06 GMT -7
Definitely did not get the bike for fuel efficiency. I wanted a commuter I could have fun on. This fits the bill 100% better than the FJR1300 that was on "fun" duty. I just thought my mileage is actually better than I expected, so maybe I am doing something wrong...
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joesedroid
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Post by joesedroid on Sept 6, 2021 5:54:33 GMT -7
I agree with you. I ride with lower RPMs and get 44-45 MPG continually. I dont get on it much at all. Makes sense.
Joe
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Post by mindcrime79 on Sept 6, 2021 6:10:04 GMT -7
I can't get above 25mpg...tuned with exhaust and I don't drive like a slug.
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Post by mclovin on Sept 6, 2021 6:42:33 GMT -7
I rode about 2000 miles 2 weeks ago. Southern Massachusetts to Tazwell Virginia to The Back of the Dragon. 21 tanks of gas. I figure i get less than 30 mpg all the time. These are not built for economy.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2021 6:44:11 GMT -7
I've done a bunch of tests on mine.
Normal riding = ~34mpg
Spirited riding = ~30mpg
Hypermiling = ~42mpg, keeping revs down, keeping acceleration to a minimum
Track riding = LOLOLOLOLOL fuggetaboudit
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oldfrank
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Post by oldfrank on Sept 6, 2021 17:02:07 GMT -7
I've done a bunch of tests on mine. Normal riding = ~34mpg Spirited riding = ~30mpg Hypermiling = ~42mpg, keeping revs down, keeping acceleration to a minimum Track riding = LOLOLOLOLOL fuggetaboudit Very good summary. I mostly hypermill with some sporadic red light runs with souped up civics. Fun Fact; while racing black convertible corvettes with red interior, if you hit a slight dip in the road in 4th gear at 100+ the front will wheelie... *scary* I also learned today that Woolich Racing has not cracked the 2021 ECU yet... so I can't get a tune yet to go along with the decat... Bummer. -Frank |
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Post by willl84 on Sept 7, 2021 4:54:37 GMT -7
I've got a Hindle 3/4 with an ECU flash from 2WDW as wella s a BMC filter and I'm averaging a hair under 30MPG for my riding which is 95% commuting. I'm sure that's a little lower than actual as I was out for a ride with the Mrs yesterday and noticed that at 60MPH indicated my GPS speed according to Google maps was only 55MPH. Gotta get a speedo healer ASAP I guess. Front tire is also almost to the wear bars at only 4500 miles so there's that.
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Post by mt10orc on Sept 17, 2021 19:32:07 GMT -7
I've done a bunch of tests on mine. Normal riding = ~34mpg Spirited riding = ~30mpg Hypermiling = ~42mpg, keeping revs down, keeping acceleration to a minimum This is about the same for me. Think I got 48 mpg on one tank. 36 mpg avg since I bought it, 2500 miles. Never cleared the avg per gallon reading on the speedo. |
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Post by bigdadcoc on Sept 18, 2021 18:43:42 GMT -7
I also learned today that Woolich Racing has not cracked the 2021 ECU yet... so I can't get a tune yet to go along with the decat... Bummer. -Frank FYI, I have a 2021 MT10 and Woolich Racing installed and it works perfect! Email them and they will tell you how to do it.. |
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Post by bigdadcoc on Sept 18, 2021 18:49:01 GMT -7
I get 37.5 mpg average commuting 50 miles per day when driving to work 80mph average. I could see getting 40+ doing 60mph if it was possible for the mt10 to go that slow… 🤣   |
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Post by willl84 on Sept 20, 2021 10:57:38 GMT -7
I get 37.5 mpg average commuting 50 miles per day when driving to work 80mph average. I could see getting 40+ doing 60mph if it was possible for the mt10 to go that slow… 🤣 I commute ~40 miles per day and I'm currently sitting at exactly 30 average in ~4500 miles |
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Post by arkenskooter on Oct 11, 2021 10:34:35 GMT -7
I was getting between 24 - 26 mpg until recently when I got a new 520 chain/sprocket kit with a 42 teeth rear sprocket (Stock is 43). I am now seeing 29 - 31 mpg. The mpg bump may not be entirely due to the sprocket size, but possibly a combination of factors; - New chain and sprocket kit may be a tad more of an efficient drive. I was on the stock set for the last 20,000 miles - Started using recommended PSI (42 Rear, 36 Front as opposed to 33 Rear, 35 Front). Got sick of having to replace the rear tire every 2,000 miles - Old fart in me has kicked in  |
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Post by dkim213 on Oct 11, 2021 18:49:20 GMT -7
I’ve been looking at the instantaneous fuel consumption while on cruise control. With a puig racing screen in full tuck, I was seeing 39mpg at 80mph. In a regular riding position, I was seeing 33mpg.
I think a big touring windscreen would get us better mpg.
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Post by sdshawn on Oct 11, 2021 18:50:25 GMT -7
Tire pressure alone would give you MPG but less rotating mass sure helps also but unless you do one at a time no way of knowing, unless you drop pressure again and see if it was the chain set up.
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Post by olivierzx on Oct 17, 2021 9:43:31 GMT -7
The consumption is optimized at the homologation revs for pollution.
I've noticed the same thing, it's better for consumption to ride at 5000 than at 3500.
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Post by slipwrist on Mar 14, 2023 19:39:11 GMT -7
I had a '18 mt09 then bought a new gen '21 towards the end of model year. Never had a concern with either of the mt09's and the '18 was flashed, sprint, full exhaust and still got 35-40 rompin on it.
I found a screaming deal on a '18 mt10 at the end of this last summer. It was bone stock and I was getting 30-35mpg if riding slow(er). I promptly put on a yosh system, sprint filter and of course had it flashed accordingly. These things are pigs bone stock, just gets worse after you do bolt-ons/flash. I hammer it a lot, even at 62 yr old so I just figured about 25mpg.
I fixed much of the half-ass brake problems simply with EBC DOUBLE-H SINTERED pads. They make even more aggressive racing pads but they're twice the price but not advised unless you're on a track and slicks. It's kinda an expensive jap bike to ride but one of the funnest I've owned in 30+ bikes over the years.
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Post by slipwrist on Mar 14, 2023 19:47:22 GMT -7
I've got a Hindle 3/4 with an ECU flash from 2WDW as wella s a BMC filter and I'm averaging a hair under 30MPG for my riding which is 95% commuting. I'm sure that's a little lower than actual as I was out for a ride with the Mrs yesterday and noticed that at 60MPH indicated my GPS speed according to Google maps was only 55MPH. Gotta get a speedo healer ASAP I guess. Front tire is also almost to the wear bars at only 4500 miles so there's that. Jeez, 4500mi on stock tire is fantastic if they're either bridgestone s20' or s22's. Both soft and grippy but I never got more than 2-2.5k mi on back before it was shot and not much more out of front, I always change them both anyway. Michelin road 6 are a heavy tire but I've never had anything that lasted as long, 6kmi out of one set of road 5's. Tires are GD expensive, I don't want to be changing all the time. |
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Post by willl84 on Mar 15, 2023 3:45:50 GMT -7
I've got a Hindle 3/4 with an ECU flash from 2WDW as wella s a BMC filter and I'm averaging a hair under 30MPG for my riding which is 95% commuting. I'm sure that's a little lower than actual as I was out for a ride with the Mrs yesterday and noticed that at 60MPH indicated my GPS speed according to Google maps was only 55MPH. Gotta get a speedo healer ASAP I guess. Front tire is also almost to the wear bars at only 4500 miles so there's that. Jeez, 4500mi on stock tire is fantastic if they're either bridgestone s20' or s22's. Both soft and grippy but I never got more than 2-2.5k mi on back before it was shot and not much more out of front, I always change them both anyway. Michelin road 6 are a heavy tire but I've never had anything that lasted as long, 6kmi out of one set of road 5's. Tires are GD expensive, I don't want to be changing all the time. I got a flat in the OEM rear at like 1400 miles and had it swapped. Then the front went out at that 4500 mark and the rear wasn't far behind. Swapped them both for Angel GT 2's and I'm a hair under 10k miles and they both look great still |
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