phanomenal10
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Post by phanomenal10 on Aug 24, 2021 4:44:03 GMT -7
Do they fit? I plan on buying an r1 master cylinder and the calipers to if they fit. I believe the r1 calipers are suppose to be better right?
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Post by willl84 on Aug 24, 2021 5:35:57 GMT -7
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2021 8:17:12 GMT -7
Are you having issues with braking?
Not sure what level of rider you are but for me, I am not having any issues with braking. (I'm a level 2/intermediate rider with my track day org)
The only thing I really might do is change out the pads.
That is going to be the cheapest, easiest, quickest way to improve the braking on our bikes. The stock pads are really not that great and replacing them with good double sintered pads will make a huge difference.
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Post by RedAndBlack on Aug 24, 2021 14:45:55 GMT -7
Do they fit? I plan on buying an r1 master cylinder and the calipers to if they fit. I believe the r1 calipers are suppose to be better right? I do not believe they are much different. They look almost exactly the same. The only difference might be the R1M uses Aluminum Pistons vs steel pistons in our bikes. They should be functionally identical and very unlikely to be a significant difference. The R1 master cylinder will be a big difference. Definitely recommend it.
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Post by RedAndBlack on Aug 24, 2021 14:48:55 GMT -7
Are you having issues with braking? Not sure what level of rider you are but for me, I am not having any issues with braking. (I'm a level 2/intermediate rider with my track day org) The only thing I really might do is change out the pads. That is going to be the cheapest, easiest, quickest way to improve the braking on our bikes. The stock pads are really not that great and replacing them with good double sintered pads will make a huge difference. I definitely recommend the R1 master upgrade. It is a radial master cylinder vs our budget master cylinder. Beyond just being better, it will give you a more consistent brake with less brake fade. Not sure if you've noticed it, but I felt you never really knew what you were getting with the FZ10 master. It would either brake with plenty of bite or feel like it was under braking. You never knew. It was a mystery going into a corner. Was definitely noticeable to me and was not something I could deal with regarding the type of riding I do. It is a great upgrade and I strongly recommend it. Pads will help for sure, but the R1 master cylinder is definitely a worthy upgrade even for a novice.
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Post by dkim213 on Aug 25, 2021 0:05:41 GMT -7
Are you having issues with braking? Not sure what level of rider you are but for me, I am not having any issues with braking. (I'm a level 2/intermediate rider with my track day org) The only thing I really might do is change out the pads. That is going to be the cheapest, easiest, quickest way to improve the braking on our bikes. The stock pads are really not that great and replacing them with good double sintered pads will make a huge difference. I definitely recommend the R1 master upgrade. It is a radial master cylinder vs our budget master cylinder. Beyond just being better, it will give you a more consistent brake with less brake fade. Not sure if you've noticed it, but I felt you never really knew what you were getting with the FZ10 master. It would either brake with plenty of bite or feel like it was under braking. You never knew. It was a mystery going into a corner. Was definitely noticeable to me and was not something I could deal with regarding the type of riding I do. It is a great upgrade and I strongly recommend it. Pads will help for sure, but the R1 master cylinder is definitely a worthy upgrade even for a novice. I did the R1 MC upgrade and it was great! Then I installed a brembo RCS17 Corsa Corta (the corsa function isn’t necessary) and it’s even better to me. I have it set to the 18mm position to have more travel. I also installed the cregtech brake switch unit.
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Post by RedAndBlack on Aug 25, 2021 12:40:19 GMT -7
I definitely recommend the R1 master upgrade. It is a radial master cylinder vs our budget master cylinder. Beyond just being better, it will give you a more consistent brake with less brake fade. Not sure if you've noticed it, but I felt you never really knew what you were getting with the FZ10 master. It would either brake with plenty of bite or feel like it was under braking. You never knew. It was a mystery going into a corner. Was definitely noticeable to me and was not something I could deal with regarding the type of riding I do. It is a great upgrade and I strongly recommend it. Pads will help for sure, but the R1 master cylinder is definitely a worthy upgrade even for a novice. I did the R1 MC upgrade and it was great! Then I installed a brembo RCS17 Corsa Corta (the corsa function isn’t necessary) and it’s even better to me. I have it set to the 18mm position to have more travel. I also installed the cregtech brake switch unit.
Wow that's awesome! I wish that were an option when I did the upgrade, I definitely would've went with an RCS instead.
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phanomenal10
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Post by phanomenal10 on Aug 26, 2021 4:23:55 GMT -7
Are you having issues with braking? Not sure what level of rider you are but for me, I am not having any issues with braking. (I'm a level 2/intermediate rider with my track day org) The only thing I really might do is change out the pads. That is going to be the cheapest, easiest, quickest way to improve the braking on our bikes. The stock pads are really not that great and replacing them with good double sintered pads will make a huge difference. I ride in the advance group. I guess I’m just used to my Daytona brakes which feels worlds better then the mt10
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Post by willl84 on Aug 26, 2021 4:34:52 GMT -7
Not sure if you've noticed it, but I felt you never really knew what you were getting with the FZ10 master. It would either brake with plenty of bite or feel like it was under braking. You never knew. It was a mystery going into a corner. Was definitely noticeable to me and was not something I could deal with regarding the type of riding I do. I've noticed that as well. Sometimes the lever feels rock hard and other times it's squishy. I just chocked that up to the ABS unit making it feel different
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Post by ryanhindriks on Oct 25, 2021 12:18:36 GMT -7
I have a R1 master cylinder, Goodridge braided lines, R1M calipers and DP racing brake pads. Braking is so much better now. R1 calipers are a direct fit and they are 95% indentical to the MT 10 standard calipers. Biggest difference is that the R1 calipers have aluminum pistons, the MT pistons are steel. So the R1 calipers don't overheat as quickly and are a tad bit lighter. Didn't feel any difference powerwise comparing to the original calipers. Use this setup on track and it works like a charm.
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Post by hooli on Oct 26, 2021 9:12:17 GMT -7
I have a R1 master cylinder, Goodridge braided lines, R1M calipers and DP racing brake pads. Braking is so much better now. R1 calipers are a direct fit and they are 95% indentical to the MT 10 standard calipers. Biggest difference is that the R1 calipers have aluminum pistons, the MT pistons are steel. So the R1 calipers don't overheat as quickly and are a tad bit lighter. Didn't feel any difference powerwise comparing to the original calipers. Use this setup on track and it works like a charm.
Do keep in mind that aluminum transmits heat a bit more efficiently than steel, so in extreme cases you may risk overheating your brake fluid easier with calipers that are equipped with aluminum pistons. For street riders and the majority of trackday participants, this is really no cause for concern though.
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2chanz
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Post by 2chanz on Dec 20, 2021 12:56:56 GMT -7
I'm also considering this as well. The new 2022 MT10s has radial MCs and I was wondering if it's worth the wait to find a OEM unit on Partzilla and retrofitting it. Stoltec seems like a good option too. I feel like the OEM pads and rotors are decent (had them for about 27K miles) and that upgrading just the MC would solve a lot of the issues.
What do you guys think would be the most cost effective way to get the most difference when comparing brake pads upgrade to either EBC/Galfer/Carbon Lorraine vs doing just the MC (keeping stock lines or to upgrade those as well)?
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Post by hooli on Dec 20, 2021 17:32:46 GMT -7
I'm also considering this as well. The new 2022 MT10s has radial MCs and I was wondering if it's worth the wait to find a OEM unit on Partzilla and retrofitting it. Stoltec seems like a good option too. I feel like the OEM pads and rotors are decent (had them for about 27K miles) and that upgrading just the MC would solve a lot of the issues. What do you guys think would be the most cost effective way to get the most difference when comparing brake pads upgrade to either EBC/Galfer/Carbon Lorraine vs doing just the MC (keeping stock lines or to upgrade those as well)? Personally I would just get a used 2015+ R1 MC.
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2chanz
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Post by 2chanz on Dec 20, 2021 18:49:27 GMT -7
I'm also considering this as well. The new 2022 MT10s has radial MCs and I was wondering if it's worth the wait to find a OEM unit on Partzilla and retrofitting it. Stoltec seems like a good option too. I feel like the OEM pads and rotors are decent (had them for about 27K miles) and that upgrading just the MC would solve a lot of the issues. What do you guys think would be the most cost effective way to get the most difference when comparing brake pads upgrade to either EBC/Galfer/Carbon Lorraine vs doing just the MC (keeping stock lines or to upgrade those as well)? Personally I would just get a used 2015+ R1 MC. I'm leaning towards that as well. I'm also thinking about getting OEM brake pads since they last so long, have minimal brake dust and provide good bite. My experience with EBCs has been great right off the bat but they wear out quick and have a lot of brake dust.
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Post by hooli on Dec 23, 2021 21:27:46 GMT -7
My experience with EBCs has been great right off the bat but they wear out quick and have a lot of brake dust. Vesrah RJL's are awesome. Longevity and much less brake dust than typical pads. Pricey but well worth it.
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2chanz
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Post by 2chanz on Dec 29, 2021 8:36:57 GMT -7
My experience with EBCs has been great right off the bat but they wear out quick and have a lot of brake dust. Vesrah RJL's are awesome. Longevity and much less brake dust than typical pads. Pricey but well worth it. I tried those too and I love them. I've decided to stick with OEM lol
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Post by oskarz28 on Jan 25, 2022 15:25:28 GMT -7
I put EBCs on my bike since I've always been happy with their performance. I amd going to do some trackdays this year, so I'll see how they will perform.
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