vullnet
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Post by vullnet on Jun 2, 2021 14:13:15 GMT -7
Noticed radiator fluid on ground, radiator resoivoir looked full so I just sent it home 20 miles. Radiator was knicked, when I went to top it off I got a splash of coolant in and it was full. Here are some pics . imgur.com/a/aAOlmaF |
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Post by RedAndBlack on Jun 2, 2021 14:54:16 GMT -7
Need a new radiator my friend. I would not ride it, period. I wouldn't have even ridden it home.
Did you top off from the radiator cap or only the reservoir? Reservoir is for overflow. If the system is compromised, you could still have a full reservoir and have no fluid in the coolant system.
Damn, I really need to get a radiator guard.
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Post by vullnet on Jun 2, 2021 15:06:29 GMT -7
Need a new radiator my friend. I would not ride it, period. I wouldn't have even ridden it home. Did you top off from the radiator cap or only the reservoir? Reservoir is for overflow. If the system is compromised, you could still have a full reservoir and have no fluid in the coolant system. Damn, I really need to get a radiator guard. Are you sure I can't ride it? And I topped off the reservoir, didn't realize it didn't lead to the radiator. I'll top off the radiator and see what happens. Bike held temps fine though for 20 miles. |
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Post by sdshawn on Jun 2, 2021 17:30:19 GMT -7
Glad I spent the 50 bucks on my protection plus it just looks so much better then stock . These radiators are rock magnets just like the black anodized forks in front on them , still working on the rock protection to keep that from happening.
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Post by RedAndBlack on Jun 3, 2021 8:35:43 GMT -7
Need a new radiator my friend. I would not ride it, period. I wouldn't have even ridden it home. Did you top off from the radiator cap or only the reservoir? Reservoir is for overflow. If the system is compromised, you could still have a full reservoir and have no fluid in the coolant system. Damn, I really need to get a radiator guard. Are you sure I can't ride it? And I topped off the reservoir, didn't realize it didn't lead to the radiator. I'll top off the radiator and see what happens. Bike held temps fine though for 20 miles.
So the radiator is a closed system. The reservoir is supposed to deal with expanding fluid when the bike heats up. You'll see a significant difference between the reservoir when it's cold vs when you been riding it at 220 degrees on a 100 degree day (the reservoir will be full). The reservoir isn't there to provide additional coolant to the system, it's there to provide a place for excess coolant to go. In an optimal working system, it's a closed system that is not losing any coolant anyway.
The problem is when you get a hole in your radiator that was large enough to be shooting coolant all over your bike, you now have an opening for air to enter the system. This forms air pockets in the system which can eventually get to the coolant pump and cause it to stop effectively pumping coolant (water pumps don't push air so the air just sits in the pump, takes the place of the coolant, and doesn't allow the coolant to circulate). This can happen pretty quickly and in as little as a few minutes, you can overheat the bike.
The other problem is the air opening end the "straw" effect that the reservoir has, making the system unable to suck whatever remaining coolant you have in the reservoir. That's likely why despite having what seems to be a pretty sizable leak, you had almost no decrease in coolant in your reservoir.
Simple answer is radiator replacement. I mean people might say try to JBWeld it but at the end of the day and at some point, that radiator will need to be replaced.
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Post by vullnet on Jun 3, 2021 9:10:08 GMT -7
Are you sure I can't ride it? And I topped off the reservoir, didn't realize it didn't lead to the radiator. I'll top off the radiator and see what happens. Bike held temps fine though for 20 miles.
So the radiator is a closed system. The reservoir is supposed to deal with expanding fluid when the bike heats up. You'll see a significant difference between the reservoir when it's cold vs when you been riding it at 220 degrees on a 100 degree day (the reservoir will be full). The reservoir isn't there to provide additional coolant to the system, it's there to provide a place for excess coolant to go. In an optimal working system, it's a closed system that is not losing any coolant anyway.
The problem is when you get a hole in your radiator that was large enough to be shooting coolant all over your bike, you now have an opening for air to enter the system. This forms air pockets in the system which can eventually get to the coolant pump and cause it to stop effectively pumping coolant (water pumps don't push air so the air just sits in the pump, takes the place of the coolant, and doesn't allow the coolant to circulate). This can happen pretty quickly and in as little as a few minutes, you can overheat the bike.
The other problem is the air opening end the "straw" effect that the reservoir has, making the system unable to suck whatever remaining coolant you have in the reservoir. That's likely why despite having what seems to be a pretty sizable leak, you had almost no decrease in coolant in your reservoir.
Simple answer is radiator replacement. I mean people might say try to JBWeld it but at the end of the day and at some point, that radiator will need to be replaced.
Alright so temporary fix would he to jb weld the radiator shut. I also heard something about the egg method? I’d change the radiator I just don’t like the downtime . |
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Post by vullnet on Jun 3, 2021 13:50:39 GMT -7
Are you sure I can't ride it? And I topped off the reservoir, didn't realize it didn't lead to the radiator. I'll top off the radiator and see what happens. Bike held temps fine though for 20 miles.
So the radiator is a closed system. The reservoir is supposed to deal with expanding fluid when the bike heats up. You'll see a significant difference between the reservoir when it's cold vs when you been riding it at 220 degrees on a 100 degree day (the reservoir will be full). The reservoir isn't there to provide additional coolant to the system, it's there to provide a place for excess coolant to go. In an optimal working system, it's a closed system that is not losing any coolant anyway.
The problem is when you get a hole in your radiator that was large enough to be shooting coolant all over your bike, you now have an opening for air to enter the system. This forms air pockets in the system which can eventually get to the coolant pump and cause it to stop effectively pumping coolant (water pumps don't push air so the air just sits in the pump, takes the place of the coolant, and doesn't allow the coolant to circulate). This can happen pretty quickly and in as little as a few minutes, you can overheat the bike.
The other problem is the air opening end the "straw" effect that the reservoir has, making the system unable to suck whatever remaining coolant you have in the reservoir. That's likely why despite having what seems to be a pretty sizable leak, you had almost no decrease in coolant in your reservoir.
Simple answer is radiator replacement. I mean people might say try to JBWeld it but at the end of the day and at some point, that radiator will need to be replaced.
Ended up just ordering another radiator should be here early next week. As far as temp fix I’lll just jb weld it until it comes in. Just curious, it looks like the bike comes with an oil guard, I wanted to order a radiator guard so I don’t gotta deal with this again. Is the stock one adequate ? And any suggestions on radiator guards or all they basically the same ? imgur.com/a/VfOPJRs |
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Post by balls on Jun 7, 2021 9:22:20 GMT -7
Man, glad that you're still able to type. A leak in the radiator like you pictured could have ended your life. Years ago a buddy of mine had a coolant system failure that what we figured resulted in coolant getting puked onto his rear tire while heading into a nice corner that hugged the mountain (interior British Columbia, Canada). Ass end went completely greasy, sent him into the opposite lane, and then promptly high-sided him and his new-ish Triumph T595 over the armco barrier and down the mountain side. Serious injury, very serious. Like Helicopter air medevac serious and was in the hospital for a very long time. Lost function in his arm that he landed on because the force of the impact pushed his shoulder into his torso. I'm glad he survived it, he's an awesome dude, but sadly he was done on bikes after that.
You can find affordable radiator and oil cooler guards online through ebay, amazon, or even ali-express if you need to keep it in a budget like most of us in the world.
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Post by vullnet on Jun 7, 2021 19:31:18 GMT -7
Man, glad that you're still able to type. A leak in the radiator like you pictured could have ended your life. Years ago a buddy of mine had a coolant system failure that what we figured resulted in coolant getting puked onto his rear tire while heading into a nice corner that hugged the mountain (interior British Columbia, Canada). Ass end went completely greasy, sent him into the opposite lane, and then promptly high-sided him and his new-ish Triumph T595 over the armco barrier and down the mountain side. Serious injury, very serious. Like Helicopter air medevac serious and was in the hospital for a very long time. Lost function in his arm that he landed on because the force of the impact pushed his shoulder into his torso. I'm glad he survived it, he's an awesome dude, but sadly he was done on bikes after that. You can find affordable radiator and oil cooler guards online through ebay, amazon, or even ali-express if you need to keep it in a budget like most of us in the world. That pic is misleading, thats me when I retardedly filled the overflow instead of the actual radiator lol , just draining it out a bit. It was a small leak from the radiator at first and the bike still had coolant in it. I got the new radiator at the house just gotta install it, and got guards for both too. Just got a flat on the rear wheel and plugging it hasn't worked so I gotta tow it again to the shop lol, might have the dude do the radiator for me aswell. |
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Post by rracerfz10 on Jun 14, 2021 6:06:54 GMT -7
Coolant is slicker than oil. It's easier to clean up but it's definitely slipperier. You're lucky man.
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