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Post by willl84 on Apr 27, 2021 4:42:28 GMT -7
So I was sitting in traffic the other day and noticed that when Is tart letting my clutch out the revs jump up a couple hundred just about as it hits the friction zone. Let off and it goes back down to idle. I did this 10-15 times and it did it every single time. I've never had a bike do this before - do all the FZ/MT's do this?
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Post by weehe on Apr 27, 2021 8:26:03 GMT -7
So I was sitting in traffic the other day and noticed that when Is tart letting my clutch out the revs jump up a couple hundred just about as it hits the friction zone. Let off and it goes back down to idle. I did this 10-15 times and it did it every single time. I've never had a bike do this before - do all the FZ/MT's do this? Mine jumps in rpms when I go into gear. Lowers in neutral. Haven't noticed it increase as letting the clutch out, but will check next ride.
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Post by nakdgpa on Apr 27, 2021 16:41:55 GMT -7
My RPM goes down when I get to the “friction” point, or starting to move. Did this several times in the parking lot at work, with my right hand removed from the handle bar. My bike is still mostly stock with stock tune.
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Post by willl84 on Apr 27, 2021 18:19:48 GMT -7
My RPM goes down when I get to the “friction” point, or starting to move. Did this several times in the parking lot at work, with my right hand removed from the handle bar. My bike is still mostly stock with stock tune. Yea that sounds normal to me. Right about when I hit the friction zone the RPM will gain like 2 bars on the tach and it's an audible increase as well. I'll get a video next time I ride.
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Post by willl84 on Apr 27, 2021 18:20:45 GMT -7
So I was sitting in traffic the other day and noticed that when Is tart letting my clutch out the revs jump up a couple hundred just about as it hits the friction zone. Let off and it goes back down to idle. I did this 10-15 times and it did it every single time. I've never had a bike do this before - do all the FZ/MT's do this? Mine jumps in rpms when I go into gear. Lowers in neutral. Haven't noticed it increase as letting the clutch out, but will check next ride. I figured if anything it'd be the opposite of that - more drag on the clutch when in gear should make the RPM drop slightly. But then again with the electronic throttle it should compensate for that to hold a steady RPM I would think
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Post by RedAndBlack on Apr 27, 2021 19:06:24 GMT -7
Apply more throttle? Get a Tune that includes throttle remapping? Go down to the standard throttle setting. FZ10 has a very sensitive throttle which makes us want to be more dependent on the clutch to get the bike going.
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Post by willl84 on Apr 28, 2021 3:57:09 GMT -7
Apply more throttle? Get a Tune that includes throttle remapping? Go down to the standard throttle setting. FZ10 has a very sensitive throttle which makes us want to be more dependent on the clutch to get the bike going. It's not about applying more throttle - I was just playing with the clutch while sitting at a red and noticed it. And the RPM goes up, not down, when it hits the friction zone. I have a 2WDW flash, mode is set to 1. This happens without touching the throttle at all. I'll get a video of it
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Post by nakdgpa on Apr 28, 2021 5:36:31 GMT -7
My RPM goes down when I get to the “friction” point, or starting to move. Did this several times in the parking lot at work, with my right hand removed from the handle bar. My bike is still mostly stock with stock tune. Yea that sounds normal to me. Right about when I hit the friction zone the RPM will gain like 2 bars on the tach and it's an audible increase as well. I'll get a video next time I ride. I agree, a rise in RPM doesn’t sound like normal operation. Has 2WDW seen this before? Out of curiosity, will it maintain enough RPM to keep the bike running and move down the road without throttle input?
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Post by willl84 on Apr 28, 2021 5:40:54 GMT -7
Yea that sounds normal to me. Right about when I hit the friction zone the RPM will gain like 2 bars on the tach and it's an audible increase as well. I'll get a video next time I ride. I agree, a rise in RPM doesn’t sound like normal operation. Has 2WDW seen this before? Out of curiosity, will it maintain enough RPM to keep the bike running and move down the road without throttle input? Haven't mentioned it to 2WDW at all, not sure if it's even related to the flash or not. It won't maintain enough at all, it only raises it like 1 or 2 bars on the tach
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Post by RedAndBlack on Apr 28, 2021 14:02:42 GMT -7
Apply more throttle? Get a Tune that includes throttle remapping? Go down to the standard throttle setting. FZ10 has a very sensitive throttle which makes us want to be more dependent on the clutch to get the bike going. It's not about applying more throttle - I was just playing with the clutch while sitting at a red and noticed it. And the RPM goes up, not down, when it hits the friction zone. I have a 2WDW flash, mode is set to 1. This happens without touching the throttle at all. I'll get a video of it Oh ok, gotcha! Yea I wasn't processing in my mind which way the RPM was moving. But yea, that doesn't sound normal.
Only other thing I would suggest is to check the idle.
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Post by willl84 on Apr 29, 2021 7:04:33 GMT -7
It's not about applying more throttle - I was just playing with the clutch while sitting at a red and noticed it. And the RPM goes up, not down, when it hits the friction zone. I have a 2WDW flash, mode is set to 1. This happens without touching the throttle at all. I'll get a video of it Oh ok, gotcha! Yea I wasn't processing in my mind which way the RPM was moving. But yea, that doesn't sound normal.
Only other thing I would suggest is to check the idle.
Idle is still set to where it was when it left the factory. The bike only has 2000 miles on it currently
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Post by willl84 on May 3, 2021 4:15:50 GMT -7
Alright I took a short video clip when I got to work this morning to show the behavior. You can see it goes up 1 bar and sometimes 2 just before it hits the friction zone.
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Post by nakdgpa on May 3, 2021 18:57:47 GMT -7
Alright I took a short video clip when I got to work this morning to show the behavior. You can see it goes up 1 bar and sometimes 2 just before it hits the friction zone. That’s interesting... curious what you figure out. Keep us posted please.
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Post by weehe on May 5, 2021 9:47:16 GMT -7
Finally rode mine. My revs raise when I go into gear by 1-2 bars. No change when letting out the clutch. Mine is a 2016. Im guessing the ecu is more advanced in your 2020 to increase revs only when letting out the clutch. When I sit in traffic in gear it gets hot fast. So probably a fix for that.
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Post by willl84 on May 5, 2021 10:45:19 GMT -7
Finally rode mine. My revs raise when I go into gear by 1-2 bars. No change when letting out the clutch. Mine is a 2016. Im guessing the ecu is more advanced in your 2020 to increase revs only when letting out the clutch. When I sit in traffic in gear it gets hot fast. So probably a fix for that. Do you have your ECU flashed?
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Post by weehe on May 5, 2021 20:06:03 GMT -7
Finally rode mine. My revs raise when I go into gear by 1-2 bars. No change when letting out the clutch. Mine is a 2016. Im guessing the ecu is more advanced in your 2020 to increase revs only when letting out the clutch. When I sit in traffic in gear it gets hot fast. So probably a fix for that. Do you have your ECU flashed? Yeah, 2wdw.
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Post by willl84 on May 6, 2021 5:27:35 GMT -7
Do you have your ECU flashed? Yeah, 2wdw. Same as mine then. That's strange.
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Post by bikeman on May 8, 2021 15:14:26 GMT -7
My 2018 does this as well. I also have the 2wdw flash. I’m not sure if it did it before the flash. I thought it might be there from stock as a kind of assist like a rev hang some cars have to aid in shifting. I dunno. I don’t mind it. It’s sold subtle.
Mike
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Post by willl84 on May 8, 2021 18:34:13 GMT -7
My 2018 does this as well. I also have the 2wdw flash. I’m not sure if it did it before the flash. I thought it might be there from stock as a kind of assist like a rev hang some cars have to aid in shifting. I dunno. I don’t mind it. It’s sold subtle. Mike Yea I don't notice it unless I'm sitting at a red light lol
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Post by parthz8 on May 10, 2021 14:33:24 GMT -7
Hi willl84-
Saw you post and youtube video. I tried same on my MT-10 (2021) stock, no ECU flash. Absolutely no issue and RPM is steady and gradually increase with throttle....
Thanks-
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