Dealership charging for labor even if it is under warranty?

Why would you want a philips head drain bolt? Philips head is the worst you can use! That’s why your bolts leaking, you can’t torque it down tight enough with a screwdriver! How did you even find a Phillips head drain bolt?  I went with a magnetic hex head plug that uses a wrench/socket and use factory crush washers and never had any leaks on mine for 3 years and 12,000 miles

Isn't it funny how that works? You replaced a drain plug with a philips head screw and you are quick to point out someone else's intelligence. Someone with a small brain would say that after posting the question regarding the dilemna they created by having a small brain.

Just admit I'm correct. You've never had a new vehicle warranty before. If you did you wouldn't be here asking this.

I thought that we were here to ask this type of question looing for guidance from those who may know more than us.


Sorry to say extremely bad form belittling a question posted on here... leaves a very bad taste in the mouth ,smacks of insecurity. 


I have been riding, breaking putting bikes together for 45 years, now in my 61st year,  and i am constantly learning...  so for me all questions are valid and help the rest of us... if you have a question  I am certain there will be others on here thinking the same and learning from things asked on this forum no matter what ... I am a new member here so if i am out of place posting the above i apologise but I felt it had to be said.

Long may there be questions of all kinds simple to the very complex.. 

You're all good man. Ask the questions you need to and just ignore the negative people.

There are two leaks, one from the gasket and one from the drain bolt. The gasket leak is a known one and is covered under warranty. A warranty claim cannot be denied because the owner did the job himself or used a different brand of oil, so the dealer is blowing smoke. Many have changed out the drain plug (usually Goldplug MP-02) with no leaks. The standard washer is a flat aluminum one although the old style crush washer is also acceptable. Since the plug has been changed the leak there will not be covered. Not sure why it is leaking unless the wrong size was selected.  If you aren't using a Goldplug I'd suggest getting one.

Your dealer sounds like an asshat, you'll have to stand your ground and demand the pan gasket be replaced under warranty.  Call Yamaha if he balks.

Racer,

Please watch your language. I don't use this type of speech in a public, family- oriented forum. But since you've claimed the responsibility of making unsubstantiated accusations I'm going to have to ask you for specific references where I spoke in a condescending manner toward other members of this forum. Have I expressed negativity toward dealerships? Yes. Toward parts and equipment? Yes. I've not attacked anyone unprovoked.

But aside from your heroic effort, the OP put non oem parts on a bike and it caused a leak. Hmm I'm no rocket scientist but..a reasonable person would say the cause was a bad part. OP then went and attacked my intelligence which he probably should have refrained from doing considering he posted a dilemna with a rather obvious cause and solution. After that I just defended myself from his poor response.

Did you conveniently overlook your friends initial condescending remark? Your heroic ventures could be better placed. If you have a specific problem with me you can call me or message me privately instead of spreading false accusations in a public forum. Sounds like you're good at twitter yourself.

I thought the moderator did a good job telling everyone to mellow out on this. MindCrime, I'm sorry you felt you needed to pick back up the attacks in your post defending yourself twice that you don't attack people. I don't know any of you, but might like to some day. It's more productive to be civil and still make our point like several others did in this thread. To avoid escalation it is often better to avoid phrases like "you should definitely check your reading skills" and "this must be the first vehicle you've ever purchased new" These are belittling attacks as I read them. Just changing a couple words can still make the point and possibly even get people to understand us instead of getting defensive.