olivierzx
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Post by olivierzx on Dec 8, 2020 10:41:01 GMT -7
Even with stock suspensions the MT10 is far away from the MT09 SP, not possible to compare.
I've had 3 MT09 (2013,2017 upgraded and 2018 SP) before MT10.
Without any efforts I'm 20 km/h higher everywhere.
The only problem of MT10 is fuel consumption.
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Post by willl84 on Dec 8, 2020 12:47:38 GMT -7
Other downside with the 10's suspension is it's spring really light. I'm going to get front springs and possibly a whole rear shock (Ketch or maybe Ohlins - only $100 difference) to spring it better for my weight
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mclovin
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Post by mclovin on Dec 8, 2020 13:36:37 GMT -7
Other downside with the 10's suspension is it's spring really light. I'm going to get front springs and possibly a whole rear shock (Ketch or maybe Ohlins - only $100 difference) to spring it better for my weight That's exactly what I did and it transformed the bike. Prior to doing it, the bike was really beating me up. It was hard to hold a line through any turn that had rough pavement. After it was like running on rails. K-Tech recommended a slightly heavier oil and a slightly lower level. Skip at K-Tech can give you the numbers. I forget what they were. The suspension manufacturers should be able to put you on the $ as far as spring weight. Just decide if you want a track setup or a street setup and make that clear to whoever you buy from. A perfect track setup on the street is going to be very harsh. I found it as uncomfortable as the too light stock setup.
If you decide to change the front fork springs yourself, watch this video. The forks and process is almost identical but the MT 10 is slightly simpler even though they are more sophisticated. If you decide to do the work yourself, you can buy the fork tools for about $50 - $60. I added links to the exact ones I bought. The method for compressing the forks shown in the video works really good and is easy to do. If you can lay your hands on a Yamaha shop manual, it's even better.
There are many many many more qualified people to give advice than I am. This stuff is basically my interpretation of what K-Tech and my local shop told me. It's worked well for me. This is the first winter in 4 years that I am going to keep my bike and not buy a new one. I love the MT 10 and really can't see a bike that is going to be vastly better.....especially given that my riding skills are pretty average. That and my GF made me promise that if I got the MT 10 last winter that I'd keep it for more than 1 year.
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Post by willl84 on Dec 9, 2020 4:59:15 GMT -7
Other downside with the 10's suspension is it's spring really light. I'm going to get front springs and possibly a whole rear shock (Ketch or maybe Ohlins - only $100 difference) to spring it better for my weight That's exactly what I did and it transformed the bike. Prior to doing it, the bike was really beating me up. It was hard to hold a line through any turn that had rough pavement. After it was like running on rails. K-Tech recommended a slightly heavier oil and a slightly lower level. Skip at K-Tech can give you the numbers. I forget what they were. The suspension manufacturers should be able to put you on the $ as far as spring weight. Just decide if you want a track setup or a street setup and make that clear to whoever you buy from. A perfect track setup on the street is going to be very harsh. I found it as uncomfortable as the too light stock setup.
If you decide to change the front fork springs yourself, watch this video. The forks and process is almost identical but the MT 10 is slightly simpler even though they are more sophisticated. If you decide to do the work yourself, you can buy the fork tools for about $50 - $60. I added links to the exact ones I bought. The method for compressing the forks shown in the video works really good and is easy to do. If you can lay your hands on a Yamaha shop manual, it's even better.
There are many many many more qualified people to give advice than I am. This stuff is basically my interpretation of what K-Tech and my local shop told me. It's worked well for me. This is the first winter in 4 years that I am going to keep my bike and not buy a new one. I love the MT 10 and really can't see a bike that is going to be vastly better.....especially given that my riding skills are pretty average. That and my GF made me promise that if I got the MT 10 last winter that I'd keep it for more than 1 year.
I've been a tech in the powersports industry for almost 20 years, I've got all the tools and know-how to do most suspension work. Only thing I can't do is recharge nitrogen as I don't have a cylinder but it's easy enough to bring it to a shop that does. Changing fork springs is a piece of cake lol |
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theculturalattache
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Post by theculturalattache on Dec 9, 2020 13:37:06 GMT -7
My other bike is a ZX14R.
I absolutely love.
But remember its old school.Big,heavy and not up to date electronics.
Not a problem for me.
I have upgraded suspension on both bikes.Not cheap but very worthwhile.
If I could only keep one?
Don't know, love both!
They are very different.
Again,you really need to test ride.
Good luck.
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Post by dndfindley on Dec 11, 2020 23:49:26 GMT -7
The MT09 seems like a more useable for the street kind of bike. I had an SV650S just before my FZ10. The SV wasn’t powerful enough for me, I’m a big guy (6’3” 220) and I’m also an experienced rider, 22 years riding all kinds of sporty bikes. So I can handle the FZ10 it’s just kinda meh for me and I can’t quite put my finger on it. I'm similar - 6'1", 250lbs and I love this thing (minus the seat and twitchy throttle but my seat kit is already on the way and I'm sending my ECU in this week for a flash). I love the torque, I love the sound and being older (almost 37) I love the upright seating position - my wrists and lower back thank me. I rode the 09 (and 07) before I rode (then bought) the 10 and the 09 just didn't do it for me. It was fun for sure but the buzzy handlebars was the major turn off. The switchgear also felt pretty cheap compared to the 10 (but better than the 07). The 10 just gave me the ear to ear grin the whole time I was on it. And then he said "...and being older (almost 37)..." Young man you ain't old:) I'm about to turn 69 but I agree with you on the comfort thing and the ear to ear grin caused by the FZ-10. I have about 14k on mine and I still have the stock seat. It's ok once you get used to it. |
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Post by fjrchuck on Dec 12, 2020 13:02:24 GMT -7
I'm similar - 6'1", 250lbs and I love this thing (minus the seat and twitchy throttle but my seat kit is already on the way and I'm sending my ECU in this week for a flash). I love the torque, I love the sound and being older (almost 37) I love the upright seating position - my wrists and lower back thank me. I rode the 09 (and 07) before I rode (then bought) the 10 and the 09 just didn't do it for me. It was fun for sure but the buzzy handlebars was the major turn off. The switchgear also felt pretty cheap compared to the 10 (but better than the 07). The 10 just gave me the ear to ear grin the whole time I was on it. And then he said "...and being older (almost 37)..." Young man you ain't old:) I'm about to turn 69 but I agree with you on the comfort thing and the ear to ear grin caused by the FZ-10. I have about 14k on mine and I still have the stock seat. It's ok once you get used to it. I resemble that comment as well.......69 years young and still putting 15-20K per year on my 2 Yamaha motorcycles (combined mileage) and about 2K yearly on my Yamaha snowmobile!  |
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Post by mclovin on Dec 14, 2020 12:16:23 GMT -7
I'm similar - 6'1", 250lbs and I love this thing (minus the seat and twitchy throttle but my seat kit is already on the way and I'm sending my ECU in this week for a flash). I love the torque, I love the sound and being older (almost 37) I love the upright seating position - my wrists and lower back thank me. I rode the 09 (and 07) before I rode (then bought) the 10 and the 09 just didn't do it for me. It was fun for sure but the buzzy handlebars was the major turn off. The switchgear also felt pretty cheap compared to the 10 (but better than the 07). The 10 just gave me the ear to ear grin the whole time I was on it. And then he said "...and being older (almost 37)..." Young man you ain't old:) I'm about to turn 69 but I agree with you on the comfort thing and the ear to ear grin caused by the FZ-10. I have about 14k on mine and I still have the stock seat. It's ok once you get used to it. I'm 64 and I put 12,000 miles on my MT 10 in the first 11 months. That's more miles than all of the friends I have with Harleys put on collectively. |
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Post by rracerfz10 on Jan 28, 2021 13:27:45 GMT -7
I'm going to keep her. I took the FZ-10 out for just a fun ride Tuesday after work. I get off early on Tuesday's and we had an unseasonably warm 70* day. I've learned that this bike absolutely does NOT like being ridden gingerly. With the Yosh 3/4 I was feeling like I needed to ride in town in 4th gear, That was too high of a gear and too low in the RPM range. I've gotten used to the noise lol. Once I started riding more aggressively I feel like I finally am in tune with this bike. My old VFR800 and CBR1100XX were both happy cruising at 3k rpms or spinning at 10k. This is a different beast all together.
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Post by rracerfz10 on Feb 1, 2021 8:53:14 GMT -7
Although I am considering adding a ZX-14 or Busa as a second bike once the FZ-10 is payed off in three years. I'd loooooove to find a mint 2002 CBR1100XX like I used to have but they are so rare it's very doubtful I'll be able to find one.
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Post by willl84 on Feb 1, 2021 15:09:11 GMT -7
Although I am considering adding a ZX-14 or Busa as a second bike once the FZ-10 is payed off in three years. I'd loooooove to find a mint 2002 CBR1100XX like I used to have but they are so rare it's very doubtful I'll be able to find one. You'll either find one beat to hell out they'll want a million dollars for it lol |
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Post by rracerfz10 on Feb 2, 2021 6:24:39 GMT -7
That 2002 is PERFECT!!!! Man I hate that you showed me this. lol
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Post by willl84 on Feb 2, 2021 8:45:22 GMT -7
That 2002 is PERFECT!!!! Man I hate that you showed me this. lol You're welcome!! 🤣 |
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Post by hooli on Feb 2, 2021 12:50:03 GMT -7
Those two clowns in the first video ride like assholes. How do you figure that? |
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Post by willl84 on Feb 2, 2021 12:55:19 GMT -7
Those two clowns in the first video ride like assholes. How do you figure that? Riding way over the speed limit, drifting into the other lane, guy filming is riding the ass of the bike in front of him like he's married to it, passing cars on the double yellow |
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Post by rracerfz10 on Feb 3, 2021 14:00:42 GMT -7
Riding way over the speed limit, drifting into the other lane, guy filming is riding the ass of the bike in front of him like he's married to it, passing cars on the double yellow I agree man. Sure the video is fun to watch but you gotta realize almost every cager sees all of us like those two asshats. Sure I ride fast when and where I can and yeah I take some risks but that kind of riding on public roads and in traffic is just stupid, period. |
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mvfjps
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Post by mvfjps on Mar 31, 2021 16:28:36 GMT -7
rr.
I am looing to go the other way.. i have had MT09 for a few years and enjoyed the bike , before the 09 i had an R! which i had owned for 8 years I loved the bike, similar to you I have had all sorts from CanAm bombardier, BMWs, old Brit bikes, All the Japanese but top of my list is the R1.
Coming to the 09 apart from the power difference i find the 09 is not as smooth lacks the fluidity so i am hoping the 10 with it being based on the R1, less power, would be good fun.. Now as i am 60 i suit the naked bike riding position rather than the down over the front wheel ..
We ride what we enjoy and some that we don't but they all make us smile no ?
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Post by motonut on Apr 18, 2021 9:50:48 GMT -7
I’m on the fence between the 09 and 10 as well..I test rode the 09 and it was by far the best naked I tried..( others were z900, street triple and z650) was set to get the ‘20 mt09 and saw a pic of me on it..6’ and 245 lbs.. I feel like I’m a bit too big for it..so I’m looking for a 10 to sit on and compare..currently ride a Harley 48. Either way, glad I took a stab at nakeds..
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mvfjps
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Post by mvfjps on Apr 18, 2021 12:26:34 GMT -7
As i wrote i have had the 09 for the last 2 years or so and its great, ridding position good , has some uuufff but for me lacks that ' lets get the flock out of here feeling'. I am 92 kgs, 14 stone in old money, and 6ft and finds the 09 fits me well so the pyhsical size of the09 is fine for me just want the R1 touch again. The 09 is a lovely bike ticks most of the boxes for me. Problem is Yamaha then produced the 10. 
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Post by semprenissart on Sept 9, 2021 9:30:36 GMT -7
I've had an mt09 since 2017 and I've been waiting for a refreshed mt10 that didnt happen last year.
If the new mt10 has no change, I'm really debating getting the MT09 SP.
I've ridden the MT10 several times and really like it, but it's hard to justify getting an "outdated" bike when the MT09SP comes with so much new tech that the MT10 doesnt have and is still $2k cheaper brand new
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