Kameo
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Post by Kameo on Sept 25, 2017 13:58:38 GMT -7
Installed the tensioner, valves are quiet and the only tick now is the typical yammy cylinder clack. Installed and adjusted in less than a few minutes.. I'll sleep better without that crappy oem tensioner. Good to know and thanks for the update. I have confirmed with my dealer and found a link (from over a year ago) the link for the recall info from FJ-09 boards. Yamaha knows there are issues with these tensioners and I suggest everyone with a noisy tensioner complain to their dealer and get Yamaha to hear it in #'s. fj-09.org/thread/3832/bulletin-m2016-chain-tensioner-noise-Tom Thanks for the link/info... Now that you have confirmed with your dealer what will they be doing to resolve the problem? |
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Post by Kameo on Sept 25, 2017 14:10:52 GMT -7
So from that I'l assume its still ticky. I'm ok with a little tick, nit happy about the rattle im hearing at 5000 rpms and over and when decelerating. if the manual tensioner sorts out the propeller sounds/rattle then I'd definitely do it. does it? any chance you can do a video for noobs on how to swap out oem for manual one...? Yes, the valve clatter is no longer. I did 450 miles yesterday and never heard the valves. I knew it would be fixed by replacing the tensioner, I have been through the same process with several other bikes (mostly Yamahas...) As for instructions, it is very simple, and APE has 4 or 5 detailed videos on their site for install, if you still have questions beyond those, I'd be happy to help you out Thanks for the feedback on this. I do tons of riding with a pillion on my back. Noise is substantially worse with the extra load on the bike - 130kg It's become progressively worse and is noticeable now at most rev ranges vs 6000 rpm's or higher when originally purchased. And if I hold first gear at say 5000 rpm's it will go from sounding OK to quickly not ok...almost as if the vibrations at that range cause something to start rattling...reverberating. I'm at 8500km's on the ODO and the bike sounds pretty terrible. This clatter is prevalent now almost all of the time. Wasn't going to leave it with the dealer until 10,000km service and hoping to kill 2 birds with the one stone. Is there any danger in waiting another 1500km's prior to sorting this out? ps. when I've called the dealer in the past I get the usual spin...it was only a problem with the 09's no issues with cam tensioners on the 10's. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 14:29:41 GMT -7
Now that you have confirmed with your dealer what will they be doing to resolve the problem? THey confirmed the recall for the FJ-09, nothing for the FZ-10 |
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Post by audiblepop94 on Sept 25, 2017 15:50:38 GMT -7
Yes, the valve clatter is no longer. I did 450 miles yesterday and never heard the valves. I knew it would be fixed by replacing the tensioner, I have been through the same process with several other bikes (mostly Yamahas...) As for instructions, it is very simple, and APE has 4 or 5 detailed videos on their site for install, if you still have questions beyond those, I'd be happy to help you out Thanks for the feedback on this. I do tons of riding with a pillion on my back. Noise is substantially worse with the extra load on the bike - 130kg It's become progressively worse and is noticeable now at most rev ranges vs 6000 rpm's or higher when originally purchased. And if I hold first gear at say 5000 rpm's it will go from sounding OK to quickly not ok...almost as if the vibrations at that range cause something to start rattling...reverberating. I'm at 8500km's on the ODO and the bike sounds pretty terrible. This clatter is prevalent now almost all of the time. Wasn't going to leave it with the dealer until 10,000km service and hoping to kill 2 birds with the one stone. Is there any danger in waiting another 1500km's prior to sorting this out? ps. when I've called the dealer in the past I get the usual spin...it was only a problem with the 09's no issues with cam tensioners on the 10's. It's smart to just go ahead and put a manual tensioner on sooner than later. Back when I was on my R6 dealing with this same issue the first time around, I actually read up on two seperate incidents of motor failure because the stock cam chain failed to adjust properly, leading to the cam chain skipping teeth and lunching the valves on the cylinder heads.. if it's sounds like it is getting close to out of control, get it replaced soon. |
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Post by jclapp500 on Dec 13, 2019 6:01:52 GMT -7
Hey guys, thought i would share my experience with the fz10 ticking issue. I have a 2017 fz/mt10, as soon as a left the dealership with the bike got 1 mile away and turned back around to the dealership...whats up with the loud ticking this motor is making?!? Of course they say its normal for these bikes. Its my first yamaha (usually ride a kawasaki) so i went with it. After reading on the forums i decided to try the graves manual cct. Did not fix the issue. Currently have 3k on the bike and never was able to resolve the issue no matter how i adjust the manual cct or different motor oils used. Now im kinda used to it and the ticking never resulted In any type of a mechanical failure but its still there...i hate it!! but the bike is so amazing i just kinda over look it now. My buddies R1 has a similar tick and after he changed injectors it quited down alot...loud injectors maybe?...good luck people
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Post by clayton on Dec 13, 2019 6:54:10 GMT -7
Hey guys, thought i would share my experience with the fz10 ticking issue. I have a 2017 fz/mt10, as soon as a left the dealership with the bike got 1 mile away and turned back around to the dealership...whats up with the loud ticking this motor is making?!? Of course they say its normal for these bikes. Its my first yamaha (usually ride a kawasaki) so i went with it. After reading on the forums i decided to try the graves manual cct. Did not fix the issue. Currently have 3k on the bike and never was able to resolve the issue no matter how i adjust the manual cct or different motor oils used. Now im kinda used to it and the ticking never resulted In any type of a mechanical failure but its still there...i hate it!! but the bike is so amazing i just kinda over look it now. My buddies R1 has a similar tick and after he changed injectors it quited down alot...loud injectors maybe?...good luck people Normal Yamaha tic |
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Post by hooli on Dec 13, 2019 8:20:22 GMT -7
Fuel injectors can be noisy. I pulled a set from my 2006 GSXR for cleaning and was shocked at how much of a racket they made in the cleaning tank.
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Post by jacoby on Dec 13, 2019 13:06:16 GMT -7
I got a tick on mine. Sounds like a sowing machine at start up. After about 5-10 miles it goes away completely. My guess is everything g is warmed up, nice and lubed and the sound just goes away. I’m not worried about it
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 23:16:54 GMT -7
I'd say normal MOTORCYCLE tic  . Without a sound clip, can't say if it sounds like mine. But if it does, it'd be perfectly normal for a motorcycle. I've owned dozens of new bikes, and my FZ-10, even though it's naked (they're supposed to be noisier due to no panels), it's not one of the loudest at all. ALL of my BMWs have been louder than this bike. The main source of noise are not the injectors (which are not nearly as loud as direct-injection ones), although they're loud indeed. The main noise source is the solid valvetrain. No hydraulic lash adjusters here, which make the valvetrain quieter on vehicles. Plus having an engine cover, a hood (both of them insulated), plus fenders and belly pans. A motorcycle engine, especially on a naked bike, it's all in the open. Another source of noise is the wet clutch... although not nearly as bad as a dry-clutch, like in some Ducatis (most new ones have a wet clutch now). It's all part of the allure  . |
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Post by umyboyblue24 on Dec 14, 2020 9:20:17 GMT -7
My 2019 mt10 is making a ticking noise also on the right side. yesterdays ride the noise got significantly worst. Any ideas?
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Post by Kameo on Dec 27, 2020 15:26:51 GMT -7
My 2019 mt10 is making a ticking noise also on the right side. yesterdays ride the noise got significantly worst. Any ideas? I’ve got a 2016 MT10 with 40,000km’s on it now. That tick is a bit of a feature but it is more noticeable on some MT10’S, especially stock with catalytic converters still in place. In the early days I changed the oil type and had the cct replaced under warranty. The change to 15w50 yamalube r4 changed the behaviour of both the severity of the noise and its appearance....for the better. Recently I had my 40,000km service and therefore valve adjustment performed and the tickings now all but gone. All valves were in need of adjusting. Logic mandates that it will then return. Take it in if you want it looked at under warranty but if they tell you it’s normal just ride it and forget about the noise. If it’s still pissing you off my advise would be to sell it and buy something else. That ticks here to stay. |
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Post by jinxmt10 on Feb 25, 2022 13:02:04 GMT -7
Mine ticks 16500 miles just had valve clearance done and they was fine
It ticks in neutral it’s noticeable once in gear and accelerating it’s gets a lot lot louder but if you pull the clutch it quiets down almost going but soon as you let it out again and start riding it’s back any ideas if this is normal ??
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Post by RedAndBlack on Feb 27, 2022 1:33:46 GMT -7
Mine ticks 16500 miles just had valve clearance done and they was fine It ticks in neutral it’s noticeable once in gear and accelerating it’s gets a lot lot louder but if you pull the clutch it quiets down almost going but soon as you let it out again and start riding it’s back any ideas if this is normal ?? Yes it's normal. Every sport bike with an auto cam chain tensioner will rattle a bit between adjustments. Eventually the auto tensioner will "grab" the next adjustment and it'll go away before the cam chain stretches a bit and the process repeats. its a bit unpleasant but the auto cam chain tensioner is an ingenious idea that allows us to skip manually adjusting the cam chain, which is something that if you get wrong, can have catastrophic results. |
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. Without a sound clip, can't say if it sounds like mine. But if it does, it'd be perfectly normal for a motorcycle. I've owned dozens of new bikes, and my FZ-10, even though it's naked (they're supposed to be noisier due to no panels), it's not one of the loudest at all. ALL of my BMWs have been louder than this bike. The main source of noise are not the injectors (which are not nearly as loud as direct-injection ones), although they're loud indeed. The main noise source is the solid valvetrain. No hydraulic lash adjusters here, which make the valvetrain quieter on vehicles. Plus having an engine cover, a hood (both of them insulated), plus fenders and belly pans. A motorcycle engine, especially on a naked bike, it's all in the open. Another source of noise is the wet clutch... although not nearly as bad as a dry-clutch, like in some Ducatis (most new ones have a wet clutch now). It's all part of the allure 
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